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Re: Movie Thread

27 Feb 2017 21:42

Echoes wrote:I've recently seen Comancheria/Hell or High Water!

I don't know if it's been discussed here yet. In my opinion up there among the best films of the 21st century. Easily. Not the best but among the best. Great to see that there are still great films at Holywood at the moment. :)

Presented as a contemporary western film, it's rather a detective but in wide open space of Southern Texas. My world! Also the great thing about it is that it's not manicheist at all. All characters have their flaws but some would get our sympathies, despite those flaws, others not.

Exposes the logic of interest loans which destroys the lives of so many cowboys, these days.

There are several scenes I like. At the petrol station, you see the Howard cowboy brothers in their car and then some show-offs, Sagan-type coming in their sports car, noisy tasteless rap/hiphop music very high, threatening Tanner Howard (Ben Foster) with a gun and then got smashed by Toby Howard (Chris Pine). I know whose side I'd be on.

Then you have Marcus Hamilton (Jeff Bridges) and Alberto Parker (Gil Birmingham) in a motel room. First Marcus trashes the televangelist while still claiming to be Christian and then he cracked jokes on soccer/football wondering who invented that sport, perhaps the Azteque kick on some skulls. It's just a sport that even 5 year-old kids can do, he says.

And also Toby offering his son a beer. Then talking about the bad things he's done and asking him not to be like him. Finally he asks whether he drinks his beer and the kid replies: "You ask me not to be like you and then you offer me a beer". :p

It's weird for me to see Jeff Bridges as an old rangers. Oh well I had already seen Crazy Heart before, so I guess I knew that he had aged quite a lot but I'll always see him as the kid Lightfoot in Cimino's Thunderbolt and Lightfoot with Eastwood starring as Thunderbolt. Never seen Big Lebovski, perhaps I need to someday. Jeff really has the face of a cowboy but he's very hard to understand for non English native like me !!!

Crazy Heart was quite disappointing to me. I had to watch it because I'm a country music fan and the music was amazingly great. Even a reference to Waylon Jennings, as "Are you sure Hank done it this way" was on the soundtrack.

Also a Waylon song was on the Hell or High Water soundtrack: You Ask Me To. Made me rediscover it. The song I'm most often listening to at the moment. Tremendous Waylon song. It was just before the petrol station scene. Fits very well in the film.


Bridges is in his sixties so the older roles suit him now. I had some trouble understanding some of his lines in True Grit, I don't know whether it's the sound, him or me. Some actors just have weird voices or mumble a lot. If Bridges had a Scottish accent it would be impossible !
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Re: Movie Thread

27 Feb 2017 21:49

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What an incredible error during the Best film award. Beatty seemed a bit out of it and Dunaway didn't even seem to read the card.
Was it an honest mistake, or just a Hollywood illusion?

I'm kinda suspecting the latter.
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Re: Movie Thread

27 Feb 2017 21:57

Agree with that. I didn't even watch though. Seems like a rather blase year for great films. And Moonlight is almost bombing at the box office. Subject matter too dark I think. People don't want to be reminded life is shjt, then most of them are living it. Also a terrible title, Moonlight. Sounds like a Bruce Willis TV show.

As to Bill Paxton, that is very tragic. I wonder what happened? I know it was major surgery, and he had a stroke just after, but it makes me think they didn't give him enough heprin when heading to recovery, or he wasn't taking aspirin before or something like that, which is very common today. But I'm not his doctor, I have no idea what his vitals were before, during, how surgery went, etc. One thing about his career though, as I reflect upon it, while you recognize the guy immediately, he was a much more diverse actor than it seems on the surface as you look at his roles. Very diverse.
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27 Feb 2017 22:31

Moonlight apparently is a very good film, or so I've heard
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Re: Movie Thread

27 Feb 2017 22:50

Alpe d'Huez wrote:As to Bill Paxton, that is very tragic. I wonder what happened? I know it was major surgery, and he had a stroke just after, but it makes me think they didn't give him enough heprin when heading to recovery, or he wasn't taking aspirin before or something like that, which is very common today. But I'm not his doctor, I have no idea what his vitals were before, during, how surgery went, etc. One thing about his career though, as I reflect upon it, while you recognize the guy immediately, he was a much more diverse actor than it seems on the surface as you look at his roles. Very diverse.
This is for the autopsy people to find out (providing they do it right, and there is enough money to do it), which could take weeks and weeks.

I've seen Stripes, Aliens, Apollo 13, The Terminator, U-571, Twister, and Titanic. But I couldn't honestly point out which role Bill Paxton was actually playing - I suppose he was just that good, he just disappeared into his rather "small" roles.

Chapeau, and RIP Bill Paxton.
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Re: Movie Thread

27 Feb 2017 22:52

Alpe d'Huez wrote:Agree with that. I didn't even watch though. Seems like a rather blase year for great films. And Moonlight is almost bombing at the box office. Subject matter too dark I think. People don't want to be reminded life is shjt, then most of them are living it. Also a terrible title, Moonlight. Sounds like a Bruce Willis TV show.

As to Bill Paxton, that is very tragic. I wonder what happened? I know it was major surgery, and he had a stroke just after, but it makes me think they didn't give him enough heprin when heading to recovery, or he wasn't taking aspirin before or something like that, which is very common today. But I'm not his doctor, I have no idea what his vitals were before, during, how surgery went, etc. One thing about his career though, as I reflect upon it, while you recognize the guy immediately, he was a much more diverse actor than it seems on the surface as you look at his roles. Very diverse.


It sounds like he developed a blood clot. Can happen to anyone especially if the operation was a long one. Maybe it wasn't a typical heart operation, something more complex maybe.
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Re: Movie Thread

27 Feb 2017 22:58

Tricycle Rider wrote:
movingtarget wrote:
What an incredible error during the Best film award. Beatty seemed a bit out of it and Dunaway didn't even seem to read the card.
Was it an honest mistake, or just a Hollywood illusion?

I'm kinda suspecting the latter.


No it's seems it wasn't the presenters mistake at all. They were handed the incorrect envelope but if Dunaway had read the title above the winner's name she would have realized it was incorrect before she announced it. But it must have been awful to be standing on stage for two minutes thinking you had won then someone comes along and says you haven't ! Such is Hollywood. Someone will probably lose their job I am guessing.
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Re: Movie Thread

27 Feb 2017 23:03

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Alpe d'Huez wrote:As to Bill Paxton, that is very tragic. I wonder what happened? I know it was major surgery, and he had a stroke just after, but it makes me think they didn't give him enough heprin when heading to recovery, or he wasn't taking aspirin before or something like that, which is very common today. But I'm not his doctor, I have no idea what his vitals were before, during, how surgery went, etc. One thing about his career though, as I reflect upon it, while you recognize the guy immediately, he was a much more diverse actor than it seems on the surface as you look at his roles. Very diverse.
This is for the autopsy people to find out (providing they do it right, and there is enough money to do it), which could take weeks and weeks.

I've seen Stripes, Aliens, Apollo 13, The Terminator, U-571, Twister, and Titanic. But I couldn't honestly point out which role Bill Paxton was actually playing - I suppose he was just that good, he just disappeared into his rather "small" roles.

Chapeau, and RIP Bill Paxton.


I watched the first film he directed as well called Frailty, not a bad thriller, quite creepy. He was one of those actors that was instantly recognizable. I didn't see much of his TV series called Big Love I think but my favorite movies of his performance wise would have been Aliens, Tombstone and probably Frailty.
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Re: Movie Thread

27 Feb 2017 23:09

movingtarget wrote:Someone will probably lose their job I am guessing.
PricewaterhouseCoopers will probably take the biggest hit. (That's if you're into any of this drama to begin with.)

http://www.adweek.com/tv-video/pricewaterhouse-coopers-warren-beatty-faye-dunaway-moonlight/
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Re: Movie Thread

27 Feb 2017 23:17

Alpe d'Huez wrote:Agree with that. I didn't even watch though. Seems like a rather blase year for great films. And Moonlight is almost bombing at the box office. Subject matter too dark I think. People don't want to be reminded life is shjt, then most of them are living it. Also a terrible title, Moonlight. Sounds like a Bruce Willis TV show.

As to Bill Paxton, that is very tragic. I wonder what happened? I know it was major surgery, and he had a stroke just after, but it makes me think they didn't give him enough heprin when heading to recovery, or he wasn't taking aspirin before or something like that, which is very common today. But I'm not his doctor, I have no idea what his vitals were before, during, how surgery went, etc. One thing about his career though, as I reflect upon it, while you recognize the guy immediately, he was a much more diverse actor than it seems on the surface as you look at his roles. Very diverse.


I have no doubt that La La Land would have won best film a few months ago but there seemed to be a backlash against it recently re all of this diversity in Hollywood business, obviously the campaign worked but it won a lot of other awards. I haven't seen it or Moonlight but they are completely different sorts of films. Manchester By Sea does not sound like a bowl of sunlight either ! But Casey Affleck is supposed to be good in it. What was interesting is that many of the big stars that usually turn out for the Oscars did not show up this year. About 20 well known high profile people. I wonder what the reason was ? It was pretty unusual :

Kate Hudson
Brad Pitt
Angelina Jolie
Margot Robbie
Jennifer Lawrence
Kate Winslet
Cate Blanchett
Rachel McAdams
Reese Witherspoon
Gwyneth Paltrow
John Travolta
Will Smith
George Clooney
Julianne Moore
Anne Hathaway
Julia Roberts
Bradley Cooper
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Re: Movie Thread

27 Feb 2017 23:37

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Alpe d'Huez wrote:Agree with that. I didn't even watch though. Seems like a rather blase year for great films. And Moonlight is almost bombing at the box office. Subject matter too dark I think. People don't want to be reminded life is shjt, then most of them are living it. Also a terrible title, Moonlight. Sounds like a Bruce Willis TV show.

As to Bill Paxton, that is very tragic. I wonder what happened? I know it was major surgery, and he had a stroke just after, but it makes me think they didn't give him enough heprin when heading to recovery, or he wasn't taking aspirin before or something like that, which is very common today. But I'm not his doctor, I have no idea what his vitals were before, during, how surgery went, etc. One thing about his career though, as I reflect upon it, while you recognize the guy immediately, he was a much more diverse actor than it seems on the surface as you look at his roles. Very diverse.


I have no doubt that La La Land would have won best film a few months ago but there seemed to be a backlash against it recently re all of this diversity in Hollywood business, obviously the campaign worked but it won a lot of other awards. I haven't seen it or Moonlight but they are completely different sorts of films. Manchester By Sea does not sound like a bowl of sunlight either ! But Casey Affleck is supposed to be good in it. What was interesting is that many of the big stars that usually turn out for the Oscars did not show up this year. About 20 well known high profile people. I wonder what the reason was ? It was pretty unusual :

Kate Hudson
Brad Pitt
Angelina Jolie
Margot Robbie
Jennifer Lawrence
Kate Winslet
Cate Blanchett
Rachel McAdams
Reese Witherspoon
Gwyneth Paltrow
John Travolta
Will Smith
George Clooney
Julianne Moore
Anne Hathaway
Julia Roberts
Bradley Cooper


Dude, a lot of them may be shooting on location (lighting is everything!), or my girl Angelina may be trying to save some kids in Africa.

So a bunch of white people not being there means nothing.
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28 Feb 2017 00:11

Best dresses at the Oscars - Charlize and Halle. (Your hairs, Halle, however, well... if you're gonna go fro just go full fro. And that ponytail of yours, Charlize??)

Worst dresses - Octavia and Scarlett. (I mean, seriously...)
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28 Feb 2017 01:45

Tricycle Rider wrote:Best dresses at the Oscars - Charlize and Halle. (Your hairs, Halle, however, well... if you're gonna go fro just go full fro. And that ponytail of yours, Charlize??)

Worst dresses - Octavia and Scarlett. (I mean, seriously...)


Now it seems that the reporters on the red carpet are also getting judged for their fashions. Oh well such is Hollyweird.
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Re: Movie Thread

28 Feb 2017 01:48

Tricycle Rider wrote:
movingtarget wrote:
Alpe d'Huez wrote:Agree with that. I didn't even watch though. Seems like a rather blase year for great films. And Moonlight is almost bombing at the box office. Subject matter too dark I think. People don't want to be reminded life is shjt, then most of them are living it. Also a terrible title, Moonlight. Sounds like a Bruce Willis TV show.

As to Bill Paxton, that is very tragic. I wonder what happened? I know it was major surgery, and he had a stroke just after, but it makes me think they didn't give him enough heprin when heading to recovery, or he wasn't taking aspirin before or something like that, which is very common today. But I'm not his doctor, I have no idea what his vitals were before, during, how surgery went, etc. One thing about his career though, as I reflect upon it, while you recognize the guy immediately, he was a much more diverse actor than it seems on the surface as you look at his roles. Very diverse.


I have no doubt that La La Land would have won best film a few months ago but there seemed to be a backlash against it recently re all of this diversity in Hollywood business, obviously the campaign worked but it won a lot of other awards. I haven't seen it or Moonlight but they are completely different sorts of films. Manchester By Sea does not sound like a bowl of sunlight either ! But Casey Affleck is supposed to be good in it. What was interesting is that many of the big stars that usually turn out for the Oscars did not show up this year. About 20 well known high profile people. I wonder what the reason was ? It was pretty unusual :

Kate Hudson
Brad Pitt
Angelina Jolie
Margot Robbie
Jennifer Lawrence
Kate Winslet
Cate Blanchett
Rachel McAdams
Reese Witherspoon
Gwyneth Paltrow
John Travolta
Will Smith
George Clooney
Julianne Moore
Anne Hathaway
Julia Roberts
Bradley Cooper


Dude, a lot of them may be shooting on location (lighting is everything!), or my girl Angelina may be trying to save some kids in Africa.

So a bunch of white people not being there means nothing.



Some of them might be but the only reason i mentioned it is because some entertainment reporter took note of it. Although it seems that none of those people were up for awards anyway. Anyway life goes on.
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Re: Movie Thread

28 Feb 2017 03:16

movingtarget wrote:
Tricycle Rider wrote:
movingtarget wrote:
Alpe d'Huez wrote:Agree with that. I didn't even watch though. Seems like a rather blase year for great films. And Moonlight is almost bombing at the box office. Subject matter too dark I think. People don't want to be reminded life is shjt, then most of them are living it. Also a terrible title, Moonlight. Sounds like a Bruce Willis TV show.

As to Bill Paxton, that is very tragic. I wonder what happened? I know it was major surgery, and he had a stroke just after, but it makes me think they didn't give him enough heprin when heading to recovery, or he wasn't taking aspirin before or something like that, which is very common today. But I'm not his doctor, I have no idea what his vitals were before, during, how surgery went, etc. One thing about his career though, as I reflect upon it, while you recognize the guy immediately, he was a much more diverse actor than it seems on the surface as you look at his roles. Very diverse.


I have no doubt that La La Land would have won best film a few months ago but there seemed to be a backlash against it recently re all of this diversity in Hollywood business, obviously the campaign worked but it won a lot of other awards. I haven't seen it or Moonlight but they are completely different sorts of films. Manchester By Sea does not sound like a bowl of sunlight either ! But Casey Affleck is supposed to be good in it. What was interesting is that many of the big stars that usually turn out for the Oscars did not show up this year. About 20 well known high profile people. I wonder what the reason was ? It was pretty unusual :

Kate Hudson
Brad Pitt
Angelina Jolie
Margot Robbie
Jennifer Lawrence
Kate Winslet
Cate Blanchett
Rachel McAdams
Reese Witherspoon
Gwyneth Paltrow
John Travolta
Will Smith
George Clooney
Julianne Moore
Anne Hathaway
Julia Roberts
Bradley Cooper


Dude, a lot of them may be shooting on location (lighting is everything!), or my girl Angelina may be trying to save some kids in Africa.

So a bunch of white people not being there means nothing.



Some of them might be but the only reason i mentioned it is because some entertainment reporter took note of it. Although it seems that none of those people were up for awards anyway. Anyway life goes on.

there are only so many seats in the auditorium...

just to catch up...

Academy awards -
Warren Beatty did look genuinely confused - even looking off stage as though for assistance. He's not that good an actor.
Have seen LaLa Land. I did enjoy it - very Singin' in the Rain, but seemed to sway between being like Singin' in the Rain and being a regular movie, which took an edge off it. And I didn't walk away thinking, 'what a great performance by Emma Stone', so I'm scratching my head on that one - but haven't seen any of the other performances that were nominated, so who knows...
That said, I was supposed to see Manchester by the Sea, but couldn't go at the last minute - everyone said that I hadn't missed anything...

Bill Paxton - tragic.
Someone mentioned him in Stripes - I honestly don't recall him in that, nor Terminator. Weird Science, I do, as well as True Lies, Next of Kin, a Simple Plan, Edge of Tomorrow and Tombstone. I'm ignoring the more obvious; Aliens, and I've not seen Apollo 13 or Titanic - not even on tv, which is where I saw the likes of Next of Kin and Edge of Tomorrow... But, there was something about him - no matter the role, he was always likeable, which seems to be the general consensus amongst those actors paying tribute to him

Cinemas - there is just something about seeing movies on the big screen, but for me not all of them. The "chick flicks" I've seen with the missus really don't lose a thing by seeing them on the tv at home. I watched Yojimbo the other night while the missus was out, and just wished I could see it again in a cinema...
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Re: Movie Thread

28 Feb 2017 06:49

Archibald wrote:
movingtarget wrote:
Tricycle Rider wrote:
movingtarget wrote:
Alpe d'Huez wrote:Agree with that. I didn't even watch though. Seems like a rather blase year for great films. And Moonlight is almost bombing at the box office. Subject matter too dark I think. People don't want to be reminded life is shjt, then most of them are living it. Also a terrible title, Moonlight. Sounds like a Bruce Willis TV show.

As to Bill Paxton, that is very tragic. I wonder what happened? I know it was major surgery, and he had a stroke just after, but it makes me think they didn't give him enough heprin when heading to recovery, or he wasn't taking aspirin before or something like that, which is very common today. But I'm not his doctor, I have no idea what his vitals were before, during, how surgery went, etc. One thing about his career though, as I reflect upon it, while you recognize the guy immediately, he was a much more diverse actor than it seems on the surface as you look at his roles. Very diverse.


I have no doubt that La La Land would have won best film a few months ago but there seemed to be a backlash against it recently re all of this diversity in Hollywood business, obviously the campaign worked but it won a lot of other awards. I haven't seen it or Moonlight but they are completely different sorts of films. Manchester By Sea does not sound like a bowl of sunlight either ! But Casey Affleck is supposed to be good in it. What was interesting is that many of the big stars that usually turn out for the Oscars did not show up this year. About 20 well known high profile people. I wonder what the reason was ? It was pretty unusual :

Kate Hudson
Brad Pitt
Angelina Jolie
Margot Robbie
Jennifer Lawrence
Kate Winslet
Cate Blanchett
Rachel McAdams
Reese Witherspoon
Gwyneth Paltrow
John Travolta
Will Smith
George Clooney
Julianne Moore
Anne Hathaway
Julia Roberts
Bradley Cooper


Dude, a lot of them may be shooting on location (lighting is everything!), or my girl Angelina may be trying to save some kids in Africa.

So a bunch of white people not being there means nothing.



Some of them might be but the only reason i mentioned it is because some entertainment reporter took note of it. Although it seems that none of those people were up for awards anyway. Anyway life goes on.

there are only so many seats in the auditorium...

just to catch up...

Academy awards -
Warren Beatty did look genuinely confused - even looking off stage as though for assistance. He's not that good an actor.
Have seen LaLa Land. I did enjoy it - very Singin' in the Rain, but seemed to sway between being like Singin' in the Rain and being a regular movie, which took an edge off it. And I didn't walk away thinking, 'what a great performance by Emma Stone', so I'm scratching my head on that one - but haven't seen any of the other performances that were nominated, so who knows...
That said, I was supposed to see Manchester by the Sea, but couldn't go at the last minute - everyone said that I hadn't missed anything...

Bill Paxton - tragic.
Someone mentioned him in Stripes - I honestly don't recall him in that, nor Terminator. Weird Science, I do, as well as True Lies, Next of Kin, a Simple Plan, Edge of Tomorrow and Tombstone. I'm ignoring the more obvious; Aliens, and I've not seen Apollo 13 or Titanic - not even on tv, which is where I saw the likes of Next of Kin and Edge of Tomorrow... But, there was something about him - no matter the role, he was always likeable, which seems to be the general consensus amongst those actors paying tribute to him

Cinemas - there is just something about seeing movies on the big screen, but for me not all of them. The "chick flicks" I've seen with the missus really don't lose a thing by seeing them on the tv at home. I watched Yojimbo the other night while the missus was out, and just wished I could see it again in a cinema...


Yes Kurosawa movies were made to be seen at the cinema. Some of the old epics like Lawrence of Arabia were great on the big screen. Even a film like Gladiator for me is so much better at the cinema. I was hoping they would end up doing a Game of Thrones movie.
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Re: Movie Thread

28 Feb 2017 15:39

Well, great cinematic films you need to see on the big screen seem to have been replaced with these giant franchise huge CGI/VFX films. You know the movies I am talking about, all the sequels, comic books, etc. I think the last grand movie I saw that really had a big cinema feel, was The Revenanat. I did not see The Silence from this year, but it may have accomplished the same.
movingtarget wrote:I have no doubt that La La Land would have won best film a few months ago but there seemed to be a backlash against it recently re all of this diversity in Hollywood business, obviously the campaign worked but it won a lot of other awards.

Agree with this.

As to Paxton, he was definitely an actor you knew who he was at a glance, but did disappear into a lot of roles. Edge of Tomorrow recently comes to mind.

And hey, I have no problem with Scarlett Johansson's dress at the Oscars. Yowza! I must state, I've always had a crush on Charlize though. She could wear anything and still be gorgeous hot, or wear nothing at all. :)
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Re: Movie Thread

28 Feb 2017 20:49

Alpe d'Huez wrote:Well, great cinematic films you need to see on the big screen seem to have been replaced with these giant franchise huge CGI/VFX films. You know the movies I am talking about, all the sequels, comic books, etc. I think the last grand movie I saw that really had a big cinema feel, was The Revenanat. I did not see The Silence from this year, but it may have accomplished the same.
movingtarget wrote:I have no doubt that La La Land would have won best film a few months ago but there seemed to be a backlash against it recently re all of this diversity in Hollywood business, obviously the campaign worked but it won a lot of other awards.

Agree with this.

As to Paxton, he was definitely an actor you knew who he was at a glance, but did disappear into a lot of roles. Edge of Tomorrow recently comes to mind.

And hey, I have no problem with Scarlett Johansson's dress at the Oscars. Yowza! I must state, I've always had a crush on Charlize though. She could wear anything and still be gorgeous hot, or wear nothing at all. :)


Wish I had seen Sin City on the big screen ! Loved the visuals. May have to catch Edge of Tomorrow, never saw that. As for Scarlett and Charlize well even the names sound good !
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01 Mar 2017 02:11

movingtarget wrote:Yes Kurosawa movies were made to be seen at the cinema. Some of the old epics like Lawrence of Arabia were great on the big screen. Even a film like Gladiator for me is so much better at the cinema. I was hoping they would end up doing a Game of Thrones movie.

ooh, there's an idea... although, where would you start with it?
Ben Hur was good on the big screen - the chariot race, just great to see in a cinema - Am pretty thankful for that niche cinema back home!
Sin City was good on the big screen. I really like the way that was shot.

As for Edge of Tomorrow, think Aliens crossed with Groundhog Day... it's a bit of mindless entertainment, although I do like Emily Blunt.
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Re: Movie Thread

01 Mar 2017 04:39

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movingtarget wrote:Yes Kurosawa movies were made to be seen at the cinema. Some of the old epics like Lawrence of Arabia were great on the big screen. Even a film like Gladiator for me is so much better at the cinema. I was hoping they would end up doing a Game of Thrones movie.

ooh, there's an idea... although, where would you start with it?
Ben Hur was good on the big screen - the chariot race, just great to see in a cinema - Am pretty thankful for that niche cinema back home!
Sin City was good on the big screen. I really like the way that was shot.

As for Edge of Tomorrow, think Aliens crossed with Groundhog Day... it's a bit of mindless entertainment, although I do like Emily Blunt.


They were thinking of doing a Lord of The Rings type thing with Game of Thrones at the cinema but it won't happen now unless there is a spin off which is possible considering how popular it is. The series is set to end after 16 more episodes.
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