U.S. Politics

[Semper Fidelis]

I have to keep asking that folks don't use my real name. Please don't.

I just thought it was interesting that it was a blog and they need money.

[aphronesis]

Some people think that pseudonym things is just for laffs and all that. Alternative identities. Shouldn't be a tough one for the crowd that don't miss a beat freaking out over Trump's indiscretions.

There might be a useful line somewhere between content for profit's sake and unsponsored raving.

I like the ads on Truth out for hispanic and Saudi women dating networks.

[Beech Mtn]

Trump is being provided "male only" entertainment on his trip:

https://www.rt.com/usa/388871-trump-saudi-arabia-visit-melania/

[kingjr]

Just a bit of fun: which song famously performed by Fred Astaire is referenced here?

[Semper Fidelis]

Some people think that pseudonym things is just for laffs and all that. Alternative identities. Shouldn't be a tough one for the crowd that don't miss a beat freaking out over Trump's indiscretions.

There might be a useful line somewhere between content for profit's sake and unsponsored raving.

I like the ads on Truth out for hispanic and Saudi women dating networks.

It is quite the interesting fact.

[Semper Fidelis]

Just a bit of fun: which song famously performed by Fred Astaire is referenced here?

I don't have a clue about the song. But man that gif has me cracked up!

[Semper Fidelis]

Anyone see that Antneeee Weiner is supposedly going to plead guilty for a 2 year sentence?

I wonder if the russians hacked that laptop and his phone to cause him to do all that bad stuff to the minor? Not to mention the political fall out it had for ole girl. She does not even chat with huma as much any more.

[aphronesis]

I saw that but didn't want to distract from the complicated analysis of trump and Duke. Or the Russian threat to democracy.

[Semper Fidelis]

I saw that but didn't want to distract from the complicated analysis of trump and Duke. Or the Russian threat to democracy.

His political career is over or just getting started?

How does folks in NYC speak of him now?

Did you catch blutto's post about the way back days in 96 when we sent those "consultants" into the red bear and pushed the agenda to reelect ole eyebrows.

[kingjr]

I don't have a clue about the song. But man that gif has me cracked up!

Puttin' On the Ritz... yeah I had to wince, too.

[Semper Fidelis]

I don't have a clue about the song. But man that gif has me cracked up!

Puttin' On the Ritz... yeah I had to wince, too.

thats old school.

Very nice work putting that giff in here!

[kingjr]

I don't have a clue about the song. But man that gif has me cracked up!

Puttin' On the Ritz... yeah I had to wince, too.

thats old school.

Very nice work putting that giff in here!

I didn't make the gif, if that's what you're saying :P I just pressed the little Img button and pasted it in.

[Semper Fidelis]

I don't have a clue about the song. But man that gif has me cracked up!

Puttin' On the Ritz... yeah I had to wince, too.

thats old school.

Very nice work putting that giff in here!

I didn't make the gif, if that's what you're saying :P I just pressed the little Img button and pasted it in.

No I did not mean that. I meant what I said. It was nice work to put it up here.

[aphronesis]

I saw that but didn't want to distract from the complicated analysis of trump and Duke. Or the Russian threat to democracy.

His political career is over or just getting started?

How does folks in NYC speak of him now?

Did you catch blutto's post about the way back days in 96 when we sent those "consultants" into the red bear and pushed the agenda to reelect ole eyebrows.

Full on fool. You'd think he'd have learned the first time he got rolled by the virtual world.

Easier to have affairs. And buy a pied a terre and teenager in the Bronx if that's how you want to go.

[Jagartrott]

....well there is this ...."When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?".....as compared to say a case hardened ideologue ( which btw plays much more better on the big screen where the good guys/bad guys black/white is the preferred script outline ).....

Facts change mid-sentence in Trump's case.
He's a real fact-focused person, correct. From day 1 (biggest inauguration crowd ever) up to the present day, amazing.

I'm just curious where all the hyper-sensitivity was when the last guy was in office. So this is pure ideology... which is boring.

Obama was a disappointment, but in terms of class and eloquence, the difference is day and night.
By the way, the boatloads of whataboutery, that's not boring? Every second post - but Obama this, but quadfocals that. They're out of it, has-beens, and it doesn't change a thing about the mess the Trump presidency is.

[Scott SoCal]

....well there is this ...."When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?".....as compared to say a case hardened ideologue ( which btw plays much more better on the big screen where the good guys/bad guys black/white is the preferred script outline ).....

Facts change mid-sentence in Trump's case.
He's a real fact-focused person, correct. From day 1 (biggest inauguration crowd ever) up to the present day, amazing.

I'm just curious where all the hyper-sensitivity was when the last guy was in office. So this is pure ideology... which is boring.

Obama was a disappointment, but in terms of class and eloquence, the difference is day and night.
By the way, the boatloads of whataboutery, that's not boring? Every second post - but Obama this, but quadfocals that. They're out of it, has-beens, and it doesn't change a thing about the mess the Trump presidency is.

Class and eloquence? Was that true for all in the 57 Sates including Navy Corpsemen? Yeah, real winner you got there

It's boring and fascinating at the same time especially from the science "facts only" crowd. Facts matter clear up until they don't.

I guess we'll just refer to you guys as election result deniers.

[BullsFan22]

....well there is this ...."When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?".....as compared to say a case hardened ideologue ( which btw plays much more better on the big screen where the good guys/bad guys black/white is the preferred script outline ).....

Facts change mid-sentence in Trump's case.
He's a real fact-focused person, correct. From day 1 (biggest inauguration crowd ever) up to the present day, amazing.

I'm just curious where all the hyper-sensitivity was when the last guy was in office. So this is pure ideology... which is boring.

Obama was a disappointment, but in terms of class and eloquence, the difference is day and night.
By the way, the boatloads of whataboutery, that's not boring? Every second post - but Obama this, but quadfocals that. They're out of it, has-beens, and it doesn't change a thing about the mess the Trump presidency is.

Class and eloquence? Was that true for all in the 57 Sates including Navy Corpsemen? Yeah, real winner you got there

It's boring and fascinating at the same time especially from the science "facts only" crowd. Facts matter clear up until they don't.

I guess we'll just refer to you guys as election result deniers.

Scott, the Swedish dude is right. Obama is much more eloquent. He is also right in saying that Obama was a disappointment. I'll go a step further and say that he was a big disappointment.

That said, I don't mind too much when a president or a senator or governor or even a mayor is able to spit out the words and in what manner, my beef is whether or not they get the job done. Obama didn't many jobs right. Issues that he really hammered on during his campaign in 2007 and 2008...he fluffed it up, retracted, quietly omitted or kept the policies of Dubya.

If Trump can produce something that will benefit the country, great. We don't always need a president that's a Rhodes scholar, has a JD from Yale or an MD from Harvard and had perfect attendance K-12.

[Dan2016]

....well there is this ...."When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?".....as compared to say a case hardened ideologue ( which btw plays much more better on the big screen where the good guys/bad guys black/white is the preferred script outline ).....

Facts change mid-sentence in Trump's case.
He's a real fact-focused person, correct. From day 1 (biggest inauguration crowd ever) up to the present day, amazing.

I'm just curious where all the hyper-sensitivity was when the last guy was in office. So this is pure ideology... which is boring.

Obama was a disappointment, but in terms of class and eloquence, the difference is day and night.
By the way, the boatloads of whataboutery, that's not boring? Every second post - but Obama this, but quadfocals that. They're out of it, has-beens, and it doesn't change a thing about the mess the Trump presidency is.

Oh-BAM-ah and ol' Quadface aren't out of it or has-beens. They are part of the political landscape, part of the establishment framework from which comparisons are made and discourse had. To frame BAMa's term as just a disappointment, but much more 'classy' and 'eloquent', is a widely held left (lib) view that says a lot in itself. Others would say he was (is) a snake, a savage wolf in Armani, a murderous unmitigated disaster. Language is relevant.

It's a fair charge IMO for Scott to ask liberals baying for blood now, 'where were you when...?'' Self-reflection and a structural analysis could come from that. The grey areas; the non-binary. The form of opposition can legitimize that which one opposes - mirror images; sides of the same coin. It's not a new idea but very relevant regarding current modes of opposition to Trump - both in thought and action. If anything is boring it's the repetitive Russia! Russia! Russia! Bufoon! Idiot! Impeach! Impeach! etc... Wanting to fix the focus solely on Donnie's incompetence is a little narrow and partisan in my opinion.

[Dan2016]

@Red: No offense but your link to the Sam Harris podcast was crap. Three neoliberal propagandists in a room does not an 'outstanding' analysis make, in my opinion. Some outstanding echoes perhaps. I can provide links showing the nature of their propaganda if necessary, all three of 'em. I stopped listening after a couple of minutes to be honest, life is too short, so I might be misjudging, but I doubt it. Harris, Applebaum and a CNN 'analyst' equals ECHOES. If you feel it was genuinely outstanding maybe you could provide a brief synopsis to the thread?

[Dan2016]

Beech Mtn previously mentioned Putin's Tsar level trolling re intel sharing. I thought this was an interesting interview with him on his feelings about it after the media took him seriously and ran the story:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xK67o8oI7wE