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25 Apr 2017 14:03

LaFlorecita wrote:If anyone wants to make a financial contribution to the Scarponi family, the details are in this post:
https://twitter.com/AstanaTeam/status/856767602273775616


A financial contribution? That's weird. Unless it's for a traffic victims fund or something.
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25 Apr 2017 14:22

Tricycle Rider wrote:
Pennino wrote:Totally agree wtith you. Thought a lot about this, also before Scarpa's incident, and of couse drivers have to be just cautious instead of constantly blaming cyclists (and even walkers) about whatever presumed wrongdoing, while they're sitting high and dry in their confortable car.

But very often when I'm riding with others (I prefer riding alone, but sometimes it can be fun) I'm just constantly shaking my head about their naive behaviour. Yeah it's fun to go flat out on a descent or through a sharp corner, but we have no closed parcours like the pros. Maybe I look silly braking before almost every corner until my speed is below 20 kph, stopping pedalling and ready to brake everytime I see a car towards me, but I prefer looking silly instead of never being able to ride again.
I'm glad you mentioned the restricted courses the pros get to ride during a race, most of us do not get that. In my area we get crosswalk road signs that say pedestrians and cyclists get the right-of-way, which the drivers disregard on a very regular basis. (I've just learned to come to a full stop, and if the driver acknowledges me and lets me go I wave and say thank you.)

Anyhoo, apologies if I high-jacked this thread, I just want for you guys to be safe out there when you are riding.


Exactly, it's about the same in my country. On many occasions cyclists have right-of-way, but I always look if the driver sees me. I think that anybody here recognises to have that feeling of a near missed collision with a car or scooter or whichever vehicle at least a couple of times per ride. Silly.
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25 Apr 2017 17:54

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DNP-Old wrote:Image

:( :( :(
Takes me a while to process things, but once I saw this picture that is when I lost it.

RIP Michele Scarponi.


Just saw this, so heartbreaking.
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25 Apr 2017 19:37

GraftPunk wrote:
Tricycle Rider wrote:
DNP-Old wrote:Image

:( :( :(
Takes me a while to process things, but once I saw this picture that is when I lost it.

RIP Michele Scarponi.


Just saw this, so heartbreaking.


It's beyond heartbreaking :sad:
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25 Apr 2017 19:50

Jolene wrote:
GraftPunk wrote:
Tricycle Rider wrote:
DNP-Old wrote:Image

:( :( :(
Takes me a while to process things, but once I saw this picture that is when I lost it.

RIP Michele Scarponi.


Just saw this, so heartbreaking.


It's beyond heartbreaking :sad:


Agreed. Very emotional pic on so many levels.
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Re: Michele Scarponi RIP

25 Apr 2017 20:45

:(

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Re: Michele Scarponi RIP

25 Apr 2017 21:08

peloton wrote::(

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Apparently more than five thousand were in attendance.
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25 Apr 2017 22:18

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25 Apr 2017 23:18

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HelloDolly wrote:This video would suggest the driver turned into the side road without seeing the oncoming Scarponi.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PA_efgfyBi4

More needs to be done imo to ensure drivers are conscious of cyclists and give right of way

The number of training crashes seems to be growing

The othere major issue is a vehicle turning left in the UK , right in Europe and not leaving enough space or taking due care so the cyclists on the inside is not effected ....

These two maneuvers I think are responsible for a lot of cyclist fatalities


the video make it looks like the road was downhill for the van which is wrong, it was the other way around. Michele was coming downhill (probably pretty fast :(( ) Tragic situtation also for the driver, i don't know if he really could have seen michele even if he wasn't blinded by the sun. Not much time if someone comes fast from that road..
Of course there are many nutters (even killers) car drivers but the road infrastructure remember unfortuantely doesn't help the cyclists (and the drivers at all). i've read that in the same crossroad another cyclist was injured some time ago...

Michele's father said the he knows well giuseppe the driver (i'm sure he knew michele too) and he thinks about him too. a tragedy for so many people...


We can blame the driver and rightfully so. But to survive out there we have to learn how to avoid crashes that are the fault of others.

The left cross is indeed a common type of crash, and prevention practices are well known (click on link below). Perhaps not as known as well as they should be. RIP, Michele Scarponi.

https://www.facebook.com/BicyclistsBelongInTheTrafficLane/photos/a.426486414126484.1073741830.281417585300035/426379364137189/?type=3&theater
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26 Apr 2017 11:23

It appears Scarponi was riding against the flow of traffic. When you do that you definitely increase the chances of an accident...

Maybe that's one of the reasons they train at Tenerife; better access to closed courses.
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26 Apr 2017 23:23

DanielSong39 wrote:It appears Scarponi was riding against the flow of traffic. When you do that you definitely increase the chances of an accident...

Maybe that's one of the reasons they train at Tenerife; better access to closed courses.

Where did you get the idea that he was riding against the flow of traffic? :surprised:
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27 Apr 2017 06:39

DanielSong39 wrote:It appears Scarponi was riding against the flow of traffic. When you do that you definitely increase the chances of an accident...

Maybe that's one of the reasons they train at Tenerife; better access to closed courses.

to me it looked like the van/truck was turning left (off the main street) crossing the counter-flow lane and hasn't noticed MS coming or hasn't estimated MS' speed correctly (not implying MS was speeding but cause of the seriousness of his injuries it can not be discarded).
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27 Apr 2017 13:26

GraftPunk wrote:
Tricycle Rider wrote:
DNP-Old wrote:Image

:( :( :(
Takes me a while to process things, but once I saw this picture that is when I lost it.

RIP Michele Scarponi.


Just saw this, so heartbreaking.


i was trying to avoid this thread but just got this picture... the hole thing is unbelievable
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Re: Michele Scarponi RIP

27 Apr 2017 16:34

I know it's selfish with his family and friends suffering so much but I still have thoughts of him going to the Giro and destroying almost everybody expect Quintana. I have to remind myself he is actually gone .
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29 Apr 2017 21:05

Jungle Cycle wrote:
GraftPunk wrote:
Tricycle Rider wrote:
DNP-Old wrote:Image

:( :( :(
Takes me a while to process things, but once I saw this picture that is when I lost it.

RIP Michele Scarponi.


Just saw this, so heartbreaking.


i was trying to avoid this thread but just got this picture... the hole thing is unbelievable


unbelievable sad :(
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29 Apr 2017 21:29

Seen some posts on social media that Astana will wear helmets with Frankje design at the Giro
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03 Jun 2017 18:59

SCARPA you will not be forgotten!
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03 Jun 2017 22:20

Six weeks, right?
Is it spiritual interval in catholic church, too?
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04 Jun 2017 19:17

sir fly wrote:Six weeks, right?
Is it spiritual interval in catholic church, too?


I just did not want the topic to sink ... ;) nothing specific behind the period ...
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