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17 Jul 2017 00:19

The washing machine accelerations are lacking, but everything else is there. I am ready for the MTT of dreams up the Izoard then a TT which beats Martin by at least 1 minute on Saturday.
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17 Jul 2017 00:29

I think he can beat Dan Martin by 1 minute without batteries, but not Tony Martin. I'm assuming you meant the latter.

Great performance to latch back on, though. I guess the power kicked in when he needed it the most.
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17 Jul 2017 01:26

[quote="JosephK"]LOL at Froome getting booed by the spectators up the hill on Stage 15 after the wheel change. Even better: Phil Liggett's bewilderment at why fans could possibly be booing the Great One -- no clue at all as to why that might be happening, total astonishment. :lol:[/quote

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Today's finish is only 3km from where Romain Bardet grew up is a good reason for the booing, isn't it
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17 Jul 2017 04:01

JosephK wrote:LOL at Froome getting booed by the spectators up the hill on Stage 15 after the wheel change. Even better: Phil Liggett's bewilderment at why fans could possibly be booing the Great One -- no clue at all as to why that might be happening, total astonishment. :lol:


Froome talking about how tired everyone is, but the team hangs on to the sprint teams doing 80 km/hour on Saturday, then Sunday's uphill sprint back to the bunch, so "boo" say I too! (at least he's not getting pee or Jiffy bags thrown at him) :D
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17 Jul 2017 09:25

Listening to Lance's Stages podcast. In the latest one he seems confused at how many mechanicals Dawg has. Then the co-presenter asks what it could be. LA says it could Pinarello, Shimano or many other things.

Why doesnt any of his team mates have so many mechanicals?
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17 Jul 2017 10:06

MartinGT wrote:Listening to Lance's Stages podcast. In the latest one he seems confused at how many mechanicals Dawg has. Then the co-presenter asks what it could be. LA says it could Pinarello, Shimano or many other things.

Why doesnt any of his team mates have so many mechanicals?


If he's not riding with a motor, then without those mechanicals he'd now have two odd minutes more on his competitors.

Two.
Minutes.

That's alot. No marginal gains can compete with that.
Expecting Froome to abandon Pinarello and Shimano next season then. :rolleyes:
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17 Jul 2017 11:18

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FROOME with the ARM WARMERS again on the rest day - no-one else has them
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17 Jul 2017 11:26

A few scenarios

1. Froome is the greatest physical specimen of an athlete that has ever graced the planet and we should all laud him as such. He is the greatest cyclist of all time and triumphs over all adversity with his single minded focus and superior physiological strength. The rear wheel change and the time to be made up reinforces this.

2. There is a motor in the hub (or wheel rim) that was starting to malfunction and he had to swap a rear wheel with Kwiatkowski who had a functioning one.

3. The motor is in bottom bracket and the rear wheel change was just a rear wheel change but the motor got him back to the GC group.

4. There is no motor but instead he is doped to his eyeballs with whatever the pharmacy industry can produce.

My money is on 4 but not ruling out 2 and 3.
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17 Jul 2017 11:43

Cycle Chic wrote:Image

FROOME with the ARM WARMERS again on the rest day - no-one else has them


Aaah, yes! Arm Warmer Doping. It's the new EPO.






I know what you're insinuating.
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17 Jul 2017 12:00

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Astana leads Sky, 3 riders with arm warmers @ coffee break :razz:
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17 Jul 2017 12:22

Quick, we need a new thread claiming "arm warmers are useless".

It has the added benefit of being true.
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17 Jul 2017 12:27

deeno1975 wrote:A few scenarios

1. Froome is the greatest physical specimen of an athlete that has ever graced the planet and we should all laud him as such. He is the greatest cyclist of all time and triumphs over all adversity with his single minded focus and superior physiological strength. The rear wheel change and the time to be made up reinforces this.

2. There is a motor in the hub (or wheel rim) that was starting to malfunction and he had to swap a rear wheel with Kwiatkowski who had a functioning one.

3. The motor is in bottom bracket and the rear wheel change was just a rear wheel change but the motor got him back to the GC group.

4. There is no motor but instead he is doped to his eyeballs with whatever the pharmacy industry can produce.

My money is on 4 but not ruling out 2 and 3.


For 1, I would add, "And he is able to do this against rivals who are using motors and/or doped to their eyeballs".
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17 Jul 2017 12:35

DanielSong39 wrote:Quick, we need a new thread claiming "arm warmers are useless".

It has the added benefit of being true.


I think arm warmers do have a use. However, it's hardly clinic-material.





Unless you want to start some really crazy conspiracy theories...
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17 Jul 2017 12:42

RedheadDane wrote:
Cycle Chic wrote:Image

FROOME with the ARM WARMERS again on the rest day - no-one else has them


Aaah, yes! Arm Warmer Doping. It's the new EPO.

I know what you're insinuating.


Current temperature in southern france between 29 and 33 degrees. Definitely arm warmer kind of weather.

DanielSong39 wrote:
deeno1975 wrote:A few scenarios

1. Froome is the greatest physical specimen of an athlete that has ever graced the planet and we should all laud him as such. He is the greatest cyclist of all time and triumphs over all adversity with his single minded focus and superior physiological strength. The rear wheel change and the time to be made up reinforces this.

2. There is a motor in the hub (or wheel rim) that was starting to malfunction and he had to swap a rear wheel with Kwiatkowski who had a functioning one.

3. The motor is in bottom bracket and the rear wheel change was just a rear wheel change but the motor got him back to the GC group.

4. There is no motor but instead he is doped to his eyeballs with whatever the pharmacy industry can produce.

My money is on 4 but not ruling out 2 and 3.


For 1, I would add, "And he is able to do this against rivals who are using motors and/or doped to their eyeballs".


I would have thought 4 until I saw that weird stage finish the other day. I thought his chain had come off or his gears failed, it was so strange.
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17 Jul 2017 12:45

Current temperature in southern france between 29 and 33 degrees. Definitely arm warmer kind of weather.


Not exactly... that's pretty darn hot! And claiming they're hiding needle-marks is too obvious, so there's gonna be some benefit in the arm warmers themselves.

:cool:
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17 Jul 2017 13:01

RedheadDane wrote:
Current temperature in southern france between 29 and 33 degrees. Definitely arm warmer kind of weather.


Not exactly... that's pretty darn hot! And claiming they're hiding needle-marks is too obvious, so there's gonna be some benefit in the arm warmers themselves.

:cool:


Sarcasm ;o)

If there was a benefit in arm warmers, why not the whole team? Don't you want everyone to enjoy the improvements considering it's such a small thing to do?
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17 Jul 2017 13:05

Electress wrote:
RedheadDane wrote:
Current temperature in southern france between 29 and 33 degrees. Definitely arm warmer kind of weather.


Not exactly... that's pretty darn hot! And claiming they're hiding needle-marks is too obvious, so there's gonna be some benefit in the arm warmers themselves.

:cool:


Sarcasm ;o)

If there was a benefit in arm warmers, why not the whole team? Don't you want everyone to enjoy the improvements considering it's such a small thing to do?


Aaah... but that's where the conspiracy theories come in. :p
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17 Jul 2017 13:06

And absloutely nobody here is claiming that Astana is clean. Nobody. There should be some real fireworks 3rd week.
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17 Jul 2017 13:33

Arm warmers block the sun, I've worn them on particularly sunny days at times when I've felt I might burn. Wasn't very pleasant at times as mine are wool or quite heavy lined ones but they did the job when a couple of mates got burned. Conversely, some of the bunch were absolutely fine without them. I keep meaning to try find some light ones for times like this.
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17 Jul 2017 13:41

RedheadDane wrote:
Current temperature in southern france between 29 and 33 degrees. Definitely arm warmer kind of weather.


Not exactly... that's pretty darn hot! And claiming they're hiding needle-marks is too obvious, so there's gonna be some benefit in the arm warmers themselves.

:cool:


Try to keep up. Arm warmers are not to hide the needle marks they are because you get a bad case of the "chills" after a blood transfusion. Hamilton explained the clearly in his book along with it being a medical fact.

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