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22 Sep 2017 10:15

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/21/sports/the-home-run-explosion-is-not-exactly-beyond-suspicion.html?

I've long said that the doping culture in baseball, American football and "rest of the world" football is even more secretive and advanced than in cycling. risk/reward ratio is ridiculous. Little risk unless you're an idiot = mind-boggling rewards.
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22 Sep 2017 13:05

At least in soccer they still do doping controls like back in 1998 I think. Ya'll know how ineffective those controls were. So actually the soccer players are still able to use the very same doping products that set like every climbing record in cycling until the motor doping spiced up things again after like 15-20 years. I honestly dunno whether that's so different in tennis. At least in the NHL according to Lance Armstrong they weren't even testing for HGH & IGF-1 properly few years back.

Cycling was and properly still is the most progressive sport regarding doping. Both because new products are tried out earlier and the steadily actualized controls makes need for new doping methods. But with EPO in it's different varieties (Eprex, Aranesp, Cera) still being the best drug ever a sport like soccer where it's still possible to play old-school is probably more rotten nowadays!
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24 Sep 2017 06:51

If a drug is banned for race horses then why is it allowed for cyclists?

http://capovelo.com/Tramadol-34Doping-in-Cycling34/
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24 Sep 2017 16:18

DON CATLIN (Founder, UCLA Olympic Lab):

"They are all doping. Every single one of them"
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12 Oct 2017 12:59

Higenamin? (or Norcoclaurine HCl) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higenamine

https://www.dn.se/sport/svensk-elitspelare-i-amerikansk-fotboll-avstangd-for-dopning/

Swede banned for Higenamin - 3 American Footballers banned for it. Been banned by WADA since 1st Jan.
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12 Oct 2017 15:40

What is the chance van Avermaet will get in trouble with this talk regarding the Ozone doctor?
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12 Oct 2017 15:55

staubsauger wrote:At least in soccer they still do doping controls like back in 1998 I think. Ya'll know how ineffective those controls were. So actually the soccer players are still able to use the very same doping products that set like every climbing record in cycling until the motor doping spiced up things again after like 15-20 years. I honestly dunno whether that's so different in tennis. At least in the NHL according to Lance Armstrong they weren't even testing for HGH & IGF-1 properly few years back.

Cycling was and properly still is the most progressive sport regarding doping. Both because new products are tried out earlier and the steadily actualized controls makes need for new doping methods. But with EPO in it's different varieties (Eprex, Aranesp, Cera) still being the best drug ever a sport like soccer where it's still possible to play old-school is probably more rotten nowadays!


Is it that secretive in the NFL. Hunter S. Thompson exposed it in the 70's, ludicrously short suspensions are handed out, it's a case of being sensible and not getting caught.

Apologies, quoted incorrectly!
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