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29 Nov 2017 14:07

GenericBoonenFan wrote:
Dekker_Tifosi wrote:every race where vd poel was absent or had bad luck, Van Aert won.

Van Aert has by the way complained about the bikes (Felt) and he's not the only one. The road riders of that team (verandas) also already complained during the year about the slow Felt bikes.
Nuyens (team manager) wasn't happy with the critics. So Nuyens/Van Aert have a small clash now..


"small" I've been told by somebody close to the team that Nuyens and Van Aert were ready to throw some punches. WvA apparently didn't like Nuyens complaining about the results when the entire team had been complaining about the bikes since day 1 and apparently the team also bought second hand 2013 Felt bikes to race on, as the riders felt better on those.


WvA, Dupont, Duijn and another rider rode the Tour of Belgium on a bike from between 2011-2013. Gaetan Bille bought himself the latest Felt bike but Nuyens prohibited him from riding on it. Riders rode the omloop on a cross bike.
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29 Nov 2017 22:55

I saw a tweet this morning from Jose Been about this. I thought it was strange when Wout changed from Colnago to Felt from the start of this year...and the re-organisation of the team/ teams. Looks all a bit amateur...
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30 Nov 2017 04:12

How can they build a bike that far off? If that's true, they need to get some new engineers.
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30 Nov 2017 07:43

jmdirt wrote:How can they build a bike that far off? If that's true, they need to get some new engineers.

Exactly. That's why I think it's nonsense. Van der Poel seems to have more mecanichals than Van Aert. He still manages to win a lot of races, though.
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10 Dec 2017 15:56

PFP made a nice return tot the sport!
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10 Dec 2017 19:29

...and MVDP makes it 2 for 2 this weekend, winning the DVV Trophy race at Essen yesterday and today the Druivencross at Overijse.

Interesting tweet (and replies to said tweet) by Adam Myerson:
"I’m at the point where watching MVDP ride away on lap 1 just makes me angry. What happens when sponsorship disappears because only 1 rider is on TV for most of the men’s race?"

Now I'm only getting into cross the last few seasons, basically since Mathieu and Wout have been winning everything, so still have a lot to learn about 'cross history, but didnt Nys dominate for years before these guys came around (and Nys retired)? Or were his wins less crazy exhibitions, not the "ride away on lap 1 and lead for the rest of the race"-type rides MVDP does?
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10 Dec 2017 19:51

I only followed the latest years of Sven Nys but indeed even though he won a lot those races were much more disputed affairs. Other riders (Niels Albert particularly) still managed to beat him, or battle with him until the very end when they were outsmarted by Nys. Youtube has a lot of races from those years; they're worth a watch. Nowadays I find the ladies races much more interesting.
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10 Dec 2017 23:11

Anyone knows where to watch the replays of the races?

Since Flobikes have taken over the streaming of the Superprestige, DVV, Soudal and some off-trophy races, it's been a nightmare to find a proper replay when I can't watch the race live. And now they even want 30 euros/month to watch a couple of races per week. That's not the way to globalize the sport I think.
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11 Dec 2017 15:10

Ricco' wrote:Anyone knows where to watch the replays of the races?

Since Flobikes have taken over the streaming of the Superprestige, DVV, Soudal and some off-trophy races, it's been a nightmare to find a proper replay when I can't watch the race live. And now they even want 30 euros/month to watch a couple of races per week. That's not the way to globalize the sport I think.


I don't think the sport is doing anywhere near enough to grow, and go global. Actually, do the Belgians really want 'their' sport going global?

I've seen Helen Wyman is still looking for sponsorship. Well no British company is going to come forward as there's nowhere for exposure here in the UK. Apart from the World Cups, there is no 'official' streaming of any races....
Why geoblock races - it makes no sense; unless you don't want the sport growing.
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11 Dec 2017 15:39

Axel Hangleck wrote:I've seen Helen Wyman is still looking for sponsorship. Well no British company is going to come forward as there's nowhere for exposure here in the UK. Apart from the World Cups, there is no 'official' streaming of any races....
Why geoblock races - it makes no sense; unless you don't want the sport growing.


Yes, it makes no sense.

Noah (the guy from Youtube account Cycling Games), Roderic Kreunen or Cyclocrossable did a good job providing the streams and the full replays of the races for anyone who didn't had Sporza, Play Sports or whatever other belgian or dutch channel. But now Flobikes take everything out of YouTube and charge 30$/month to see 1 or 2 races per weekend and without commentary.

Eurosport also bought the rights to the World Cups but they are stuck on the player.

UCI should make it a priority to improve exposure if they want the sport to grow.
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13 Dec 2017 09:28

jflemaire wrote:I only followed the latest years of Sven Nys but indeed even though he won a lot those races were much more disputed affairs. Other riders (Niels Albert particularly) still managed to beat him, or battle with him until the very end when they were outsmarted by Nys. Youtube has a lot of races from those years; they're worth a watch. Nowadays I find the ladies races much more interesting.

Even before Albert, in his most dominant years, Nys quite often waited until the last two rounds before making his move. He made his opponents put up some resistance, which also increased the popularity of Wellens, who never went down without a proper fight (but nearly always went down, in the end).

Of course, Van der Poel and Van Aert are already making plenty of money. If cyclocross loses its popularity and its money in future years, they will have a lucrative road career. Nys and Wellens had to build the sport up and turn it into long term profit. They knew that boring races and lack of overall drama would severely impact their earnings, and raced accordingly.
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16 Dec 2017 13:04

jflemaire wrote:I only followed the latest years of Sven Nys but indeed even though he won a lot those races were much more disputed affairs. Other riders (Niels Albert particularly) still managed to beat him, or battle with him until the very end when they were outsmarted by Nys. Youtube has a lot of races from those years; they're worth a watch. Nowadays I find the ladies races much more interesting.


BTW tomorow, both Neff and PFP will start.
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16 Dec 2017 16:00

Well today was at least pretty entertaining. Though I still had the feeling Vd Poel had something in reserve all along
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26 Dec 2017 13:04

Boxing day stream please
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26 Dec 2017 13:25

There are a couple of streams available on cyclingfans, amongst them the official UCI-Youtube-Channel, but it's geoblocked in some countries.

Awesome race just now in Zolder, I think the best race of the season so far for me (of those I watched), so many changes in leadership and what vicious power by Cant in the end on that uphill section. Let's hope the men's race delivers as well.
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26 Dec 2017 14:02

Thanks davebqvst
this one works for me
https://www.firstonetv.net/Live/Belgium/E%C3%A9n-26
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26 Dec 2017 15:15

a little illness, but recovered and Vd Poel is superior again.
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27 Dec 2017 11:19

MVDP extends his contract to 2020. He wants to win a medal at the Olympics. Appearently Quick Step wants him.

Yesterday was a peculiar race. WvA had a small gap at the end of the second lap but then Van Der Poel just blasted away.
His last two seasons were hampered by his knee injuries but now he's dominating like never before. It's a shame he had to endure so much bad luck during his last two WC's. He's the more talented of the two in my opinion.
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27 Dec 2017 14:13

Yeah, it's no secret Quick Step would like to add him to their team, but then again every WorldTour team would.
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28 Dec 2017 15:00

I know WvA plans to look to the road more this year...I wonder if he doesn't defend his World Title if that will see him move even more towards road or make him invest more in Cross?
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