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13 Feb 2018 01:16

WheelofGear wrote:
JoeD1997 wrote:
WheelofGear wrote:Green Mountain is normally too steep and punchy for Superman but we are early in the season but maybe he has a chance.

But he won on Kitzbuhler Horn? I'd consider that a steeper climb than Green Mountain. I think he is perfectly suited to the accelerations on Green Mountain,it is just a question if he has the form to win

Against a great quantity of B-riders. Doesn't really count.

He is still better at 7-8% climbs.


I don’t pretend to know what type of long climb suits him best, but you are right that beating a field that’s mostly two tiers weaker than you on a particular climb doesn’t tell you all that much. Plus he didn’t beat Denifl by very much (and lost GC to him), and while Denifl is very good on his day he’s not really the kind of benchmark that’s useful in assessing a GT contender level climber.

Dan Martin won on Alto da Foia last year. That doesn’t mean he’s a low gradient power climber all of a sudden, it just means that he was up against a field that wasn’t very strong apart from Roglic.
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13 Feb 2018 02:29

WheelofGear wrote:
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WheelofGear wrote:
fauniera wrote:
WheelofGear wrote:
Green Mountain is normally too steep and punchy for Superman

What?

Never seen Superman been great on super steep climbs. He seems to be better if it's 7-8%.

Look no further than the Vuelta last year.

I don't think steepness is an issue for Lopéz. Obviously, he is not great at 1k or 2k muritos. He is no puncheur after all, he is a climber. But on longer, steep climbs.. he is great.


Green Mountain isn't a murito? :rolleyes:

Green Mountain is not a Murito.
Lopez won the stage that finished at Rettenbachferner in Suisse.
It all depends on fitness level at this time of the year.
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13 Feb 2018 07:17

Escarabajo wrote:
WheelofGear wrote:
Velolover2 wrote:I don't think steepness is an issue for Lopéz. Obviously, he is not great at 1k or 2k muritos. He is no puncheur after all, he is a climber. But on longer, steep climbs.. he is great.


Green Mountain isn't a murito? :rolleyes:

Green Mountain is not a Murito.
Lopez won the stage that finished at Rettenbachferner in Suisse.

It all depends on fitness level at this time of the year.

No, he did not.

However Superga is not that different. Lopez should be fine.
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13 Feb 2018 11:06

Green Mountain is long enough for Lopez to do well.

It's not Mirador de Ezaro or Chieti.
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13 Feb 2018 11:25

Break caught on stage 1
Pierre Luc Perichon (Fortuneo - Samsic) is swallowed by the pack 20 seconds behind his former breakaway companions with 11km to go. #TOO2018
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13 Feb 2018 11:41

Coquard wins stage one.
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13 Feb 2018 11:54

Who saw that coming? :surprised:

I'd say that's Coquard's most impressive win.
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13 Feb 2018 12:00

Geraint Too Fast wrote:Who saw that coming? :surprised:

I'd say that's Coquard's most impressive win.

Yep, I was about to post the same words.
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Re: Tour of Oman (2.HC) 13.02.-18.02.2018

13 Feb 2018 13:37

22. Capiot
23. Jakobsen

I like that. :p
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13 Feb 2018 13:59

Netserk wrote:
Escarabajo wrote:
WheelofGear wrote:
Velolover2 wrote:I don't think steepness is an issue for Lopéz. Obviously, he is not great at 1k or 2k muritos. He is no puncheur after all, he is a climber. But on longer, steep climbs.. he is great.


Green Mountain isn't a murito? :rolleyes:

Green Mountain is not a Murito.
Lopez won the stage that finished at Rettenbachferner in Suisse.

It all depends on fitness level at this time of the year.

No, he did not.

However Superga is not that different. Lopez should be fine.

Ooops!
I realize now that it was Tejay.
Anyway he should be fine if in form.
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13 Feb 2018 14:40

Alexandre B. wrote:
Geraint Too Fast wrote:Who saw that coming? :surprised:

I'd say that's Coquard's most impressive win.

Yep, I was about to post the same words.
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13 Feb 2018 15:04

Laporte > Coquard > Cavendish

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Re: Tour of Oman (2.HC) 13.02.-18.02.2018

13 Feb 2018 15:22

I reckon that one is impressive. Looks like he is able to win against much higher fields :cool: . Congrats to Coquard, it's good for this new project as well.
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13 Feb 2018 18:18

Coquard for the win. I wonder if he can get on a roll this season?

EDIT: Crazy, in that it wasn't crazy, last Ks!
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13 Feb 2018 19:21

Who is the favorite for tomorrow? A puncheur or a GC rider?

Looks like a perfect stage for Visconti. But I don't know if he is allowed to ride his own race. Same with Gorka Izagirre. But both are riding for Nibali, I guess.
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13 Feb 2018 19:26

Is it too hard for Haas, GVA, Felline, etc?

Could be a pure climber stage.
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13 Feb 2018 19:28

its mafde for kragh tomorrow. Gva and lutensko and maybe coquard problay be close to in my opinion.
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13 Feb 2018 19:32

WheelofGear wrote:
Velolover2 wrote:
WheelofGear wrote:
fauniera wrote:
WheelofGear wrote:
Green Mountain is normally too steep and punchy for Superman

What?

Never seen Superman been great on super steep climbs. He seems to be better if it's 7-8%.

Look no further than the Vuelta last year.

I don't think steepness is an issue for Lopéz. Obviously, he is not great at 1k or 2k muritos. He is no puncheur after all, he is a climber. But on longer, steep climbs.. he is great.


Green Mountain isn't a murito? :rolleyes:


Green Mountain is too long in my book. I don't consider climbs over 4k to be murs, even if they are steep.
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13 Feb 2018 19:33

Frankschleck wrote:its mafde for kragh tomorrow. Gva and lutensko and maybe coquard problay be close to in my opinion.

Way, way to hard for Coquard. Look at the past winners. Even the puncheurs were struggling last year.
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