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13 Mar 2018 16:33

rune1107 wrote:
Dekker_Tifosi wrote:
hfer07 wrote:KWIATO 2

G 0

:D

well, G had terrible luck so


A true GC captain rarely has bad luck. It is just becoming a habit for him, and that has to stop if he wants to be taken seriously in the GT's

I love it when people claim bad luck which is 0% the riders fault just shows he isn't good enough to be a leader. It's like calling people who win in the lottery smart because they chose the right numbers.
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13 Mar 2018 16:40

Gigs_98 wrote:
It's like calling people who win in the lottery smart because they chose the right numbers.

Some are, actually. ;)
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13 Mar 2018 16:42

So Kwito once again wins a stage race where Thomas is the strongest, that must feel kinda bad for G. Didn't catch the stage, but it looks like the usual, Dennis is world class and Sky are just smashing it as a team.
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13 Mar 2018 16:55

fauniera wrote:
Gigs_98 wrote:
It's like calling people who win in the lottery smart because they chose the right numbers.

Some are, actually. ;)

Just the exceptions that proves the rule ;)
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13 Mar 2018 16:55

Valv.Piti wrote:So Kwito once again wins a stage race where Thomas is the strongest, that must feel kinda bad for G.


I didn't see any proof for that this week. Today Kwiatkowski was clearly better, and what would have happened on the climb without the mechanical, we simply don't know.

Sure, he probably would have stayed in the same group at least, ending up with a two seconds advantage in gc in the end - but if you count in all the would have, should have, you also need to take into account that Adam Yates lost 1:13 on stage 2 due to the crash in front of him, edging out Thomas by another second in that virtual classification for the win
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13 Mar 2018 17:04

Valv.Piti wrote:So Kwito once again wins a stage race where Thomas is the strongest, that must feel kinda bad for G. Didn't catch the stage, but it looks like the usual, Dennis is world class and Sky are just smashing it as a team.


I don't know why you think Thomas was stronger. Today Kwiatek was 3 sec better, Thomas didn't show anything special during TA.
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13 Mar 2018 17:45

b.broadhurst wrote:Sky have 6 inside the top 15. Ridiculous.

The Castelli TT Speed Suits really do seem to work as advertised, don't they?
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13 Mar 2018 18:05

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b.broadhurst wrote:Sky have 6 inside the top 15. Ridiculous.

The Castelli TT Speed Suits really do seem to work as advertised, don't they?


Of course, that's why it's astonishing that Sky was only 3rd on TTT. Dissapointing.
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13 Mar 2018 18:07

Come on Uran!!!

You cannot be this bad. Strangely enough he pulled a good TT in the Tour when he needed it the most.
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13 Mar 2018 18:12

Bot. Sky_Bot wrote:
oldcrank wrote:
b.broadhurst wrote:Sky have 6 inside the top 15. Ridiculous.

The Castelli TT Speed Suits really do seem to work as advertised, don't they?


Of course, that's why it's astonishing that Sky was only 3rd on TTT. Dissapointing.

A win in the TTT would have been nice, but the
one that really matters is Monday July 9th. :)
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13 Mar 2018 18:19

oldcrank wrote:
b.broadhurst wrote:Sky have 6 inside the top 15. Ridiculous.

The Castelli TT Speed Suits really do seem to work as advertised, don't they?


Or maybe, just maybe, it's their squad full of TT specialists. But what do I know.
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13 Mar 2018 18:26

Without the TTT:

1st: Kwiatkowski
2nd: Benoot +20''
3rd: Thomas +32'' (lost 34'' to the favourites' group on the MTF)
4th: Landa +33''
5th: Caruso +34''
6th: Rosón +35''
7th: Bennett +35''
8th: Uran +47''
9th: Formolo +55''
10th: Yates +1'16'' (lost 1'13'' on stage 2)

Ofc, the racing would have been much different, just a curiosity.
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13 Mar 2018 18:30

Netserk wrote:Without the TTT:

1st: Kwiatkowski
2nd: Benoot +20''
3rd: Thomas +32'' (lost 34'' to the favourites' group on the MTF)
4th: Landa +33''
5th: Caruso +34''
6th: Rosón +35''
7th: Bennett +35''
8th: Uran +47''
9th: Formolo +55''
10th: Yates +1'16'' (lost 1'13'' on stage 2)

Ofc, the racing would have been much different, just a curiosity.

Thanks for putting the work in Netserk
I was just wondering exactly the same thing.
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13 Mar 2018 18:37

Escarabajo wrote:Come on Uran!!!

You cannot be this bad. Strangely enough he pulled a good TT in the Tour when he needed it the most.


That is not strange... a lot of riders raise their level or is really able to go faster than they normally do and push themselves more when they have something to ride for. I would say a podium finish at the Tour would be an example of that + good form ofc.
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13 Mar 2018 18:40

Netserk wrote:Without the TTT:

1st: Kwiatkowski
2nd: Benoot +20''
3rd: Thomas +32'' (lost 34'' to the favourites' group on the MTF)
4th: Landa +33''
5th: Caruso +34''
6th: Rosón +35''
7th: Bennett +35''
8th: Uran +47''
9th: Formolo +55''
10th: Yates +1'16'' (lost 1'13'' on stage 2)

Ofc, the racing would have been much different, just a curiosity.


So without any accidents would be:
Thomas
Kwiatek
Yates..
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13 Mar 2018 18:42

Bot. Sky_Bot wrote:
Netserk wrote:Without the TTT:

1st: Kwiatkowski
2nd: Benoot +20''
3rd: Thomas +32'' (lost 34'' to the favourites' group on the MTF)
4th: Landa +33''
5th: Caruso +34''
6th: Rosón +35''
7th: Bennett +35''
8th: Uran +47''
9th: Formolo +55''
10th: Yates +1'16'' (lost 1'13'' on stage 2)

Ofc, the racing would have been much different, just a curiosity.


So without any accidents would be:
Thomas
Kwiatek
Yates..

Then it would have been:
Yates
Thomas
Kwiatkowski

Your order would only be for no accidents *and* no TTT ;)
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13 Mar 2018 18:51

Netserk wrote:
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Netserk wrote:Without the TTT:

1st: Kwiatkowski
2nd: Benoot +20''
3rd: Thomas +32'' (lost 34'' to the favourites' group on the MTF)
4th: Landa +33''
5th: Caruso +34''
6th: Rosón +35''
7th: Bennett +35''
8th: Uran +47''
9th: Formolo +55''
10th: Yates +1'16'' (lost 1'13'' on stage 2)

Ofc, the racing would have been much different, just a curiosity.


So without any accidents would be:
Thomas
Kwiatek
Yates..

Then it would have been:
Yates
Thomas
Kwiatkowski

Your order would only be for no accidents *and* no TTT ;)


Yes, that's what I thought. But there are too many 'if'..
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13 Mar 2018 19:30

Rollthedice wrote:1. Thomas 2. Kwiat 3. Froome


Froome disappointed me.
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13 Mar 2018 19:53

TourOfSardinia wrote:
miguelindurain111 wrote:Sky's still the limit :)

but a non-anglo one today.
Kwiat is a star - what ever jersey he puts on.

So its just the anglo’s you’re hating on?


Mmm interesting
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13 Mar 2018 20:04

Gigs_98 wrote:
rune1107 wrote:
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hfer07 wrote:KWIATO 2

G 0

:D

well, G had terrible luck so


A true GC captain rarely has bad luck. It is just becoming a habit for him, and that has to stop if he wants to be taken seriously in the GT's

I love it when people claim bad luck which is 0% the riders fault just shows he isn't good enough to be a leader. It's like calling people who win in the lottery smart because they chose the right numbers.


One major key to LA's wins on the road was rarely if ever crashing. at least until his 'comeback'. As much as i hate the guy for various reasons, staying off the tarmac (or off of power poles) pays dividends.
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