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Re: Re:

13 Mar 2018 12:26

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Alpe73 wrote:
Merckx index wrote:
rick james wrote:Did you see why they touched shoulders? Did you see the road? Or are you still missing races but coming on to this forum to post about said missed races?


I simply quoted from the race report. Did I say why they touched shoulders? Did I blame it on anyone? Was there anything at all in my post that wasn’t factual? Or are you still coming to this forum to respond to any post which in your opinion is negative about Froome?


I cannot speak for RJ (altough I AM his attorney) ... but I think what he's getting at is this ...

There really is a lot of utter SHYTE perpetrated about Froome on this thread. I'm not even a Froome, Sky or Wiggins fan .. and I see that.

The ONLY thing that you've got on Froome is an AAF. That may change soon ... and there might be a ban. Fine. No worries for me ... and I'm sure, for RJ.

So ... in terms of quality, healthy discussion ... why not stick with quality arguments rather than the school yard tactics of ... "I was talking to someone ... can't say who, Rohan ... but (shhhh) ... but ... the boys don't like Chrissy; notawordofalie, my son.


And herein lies our problem...

you seem to willing to sub-contract your critical faculties to third parties...be they the UCI, a bunch of MPs or the popular press...

anyone who understands pro-cycling and who has been a cyclist knows that in the Vuelta 2011 we saw someone who had transformed in such a way that only had one possible explanation...you may see the AAF as the ONLY thing...others just see it as Capone being done for tax

irrespective of ban, its bleedin' obvious how froome 'transformed'....a ban, a bunch of MPs or various press reports do not change one's abilities to understand.

I shouldn't need to elaborate but I will :) For example, the DCMS report was useful not necessarily (as correct as they may be) in its conclusions, but in the layers of additional information we saw about the SKY operation....the likes of you and Sam talk about the narrow world of positive tests and rules...these are things we know, we also know that rules and tests can be worked around (easily). So, where does the thinking person go?....behind the facade...behind the Wizard's curtain....Collins may only be Toto, but he's given us a rare glimpse of the workings of 'sausage machine' which we don't normally get...... again, the conclusion from which can only be bleedin' obvious...

same with Levenson, Chilcott, Hutton..........etc etc

but you know that ;)

So in terms of quality discussion, why not move behind the positive tests on which you so rely and which we know are very poor indicators of PED use and use your imagination......


Not enough room on this board for my little bitty imagination and the feckin tidal bore of imagination, speculation, and suspicion that surges here each day.
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Re: Froome Talk Only

13 Mar 2018 15:21

How did Dawg do today? Was he on 2010 Commonwealth Games sandshoe form? :cool:
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Re: Re:

13 Mar 2018 15:46

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Wiggo's Package wrote:Can't wait until the Ethics Are For Losers gang do a runner with it!
As a sequel to the rather tiresome Kool Aid and the Gang, your new Ethics Are For Losers line is up there with Dumb and Dumberer: When Harry Met Lloyd.


Your gags appear to be just as crap as mine ;)
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Re: Froome Talk Only

13 Mar 2018 17:17

It is the Flowers for Algernon effect.


thehog wrote:How did Dawg do today? Was he on 2010 Commonwealth Games sandshoe form? :cool:
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Re: Froome Talk Only

13 Mar 2018 18:11

Ironhead Slim wrote:It is the Flowers for Algernon effect.


thehog wrote:How did Dawg do today? Was he on 2010 Commonwealth Games sandshoe form? :cool:


Just saw, 20 seconds down on a short ITT. Not bad, not good for the World Championship bronze medalist.
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Re: Froome Talk Only

13 Mar 2018 18:51

thehog wrote:
Ironhead Slim wrote:It is the Flowers for Algernon effect.


thehog wrote:How did Dawg do today? Was he on 2010 Commonwealth Games sandshoe form? :cool:


Just saw, 20 seconds down on a short ITT. Not bad, not good for the World Championship bronze medalist.


19 secs down. One sec slower than an ITT World Champion and 7 secs faster than another ITT World Champion. Yeah, not bad for a sandshoe man :p
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Re: Froome Talk Only

13 Mar 2018 18:58

thehog wrote:
Ironhead Slim wrote:It is the Flowers for Algernon effect.


thehog wrote:How did Dawg do today? Was he on 2010 Commonwealth Games sandshoe form? :cool:


Just saw, 20 seconds down on a short ITT. Not bad, not good for the World Championship bronze medalist.


Nothing a few weeks on Teide can't fix.
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Re: Froome Talk Only

13 Mar 2018 19:59

miguelindurain111 wrote:
thehog wrote:
Ironhead Slim wrote:It is the Flowers for Algernon effect.


thehog wrote:How did Dawg do today? Was he on 2010 Commonwealth Games sandshoe form? :cool:


Just saw, 20 seconds down on a short ITT. Not bad, not good for the World Championship bronze medalist.


19 secs down. One sec slower than an ITT World Champion and 7 secs faster than another ITT World Champion. Yeah, not bad for a sandshoe man :p


Lol
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Re: Froome Talk Only

13 Mar 2018 20:28

Rollthedice wrote:
thehog wrote:
Ironhead Slim wrote:It is the Flowers for Algernon effect.


thehog wrote:How did Dawg do today? Was he on 2010 Commonwealth Games sandshoe form? :cool:


Just saw, 20 seconds down on a short ITT. Not bad, not good for the World Championship bronze medalist.


Nothing a few weeks on Teide can't fix.


Kenalog with your cornflakes, sir?
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Re: Froome Talk Only

13 Mar 2018 22:26

Wiggo's Package wrote:
Rollthedice wrote:
thehog wrote:
Ironhead Slim wrote:It is the Flowers for Algernon effect.


thehog wrote:How did Dawg do today? Was he on 2010 Commonwealth Games sandshoe form? :cool:


Just saw, 20 seconds down on a short ITT. Not bad, not good for the World Championship bronze medalist.


Nothing a few weeks on Teide can't fix.


Kenalog with your cornflakes, sir?


He definitely is chubby now by dawg standards. He just needs to loose the extra fat, get down to 3% and he's good to go.
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Re: Froome Talk Only

13 Mar 2018 22:51

Rollthedice wrote:He definitely is chubby now by dawg standards. He just needs to loose the extra fat, get down to 3% and he's good to go.


he should try some acupuncture
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Re: Froome Talk Only

14 Mar 2018 10:05

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Rollthedice wrote:He definitely is chubby now by dawg standards. He just needs to loose the extra fat, get down to 3% and he's good to go.


he should try some acupuncture


you don't need acupuncture when you have... asthma ;)
Shut up, Jens!
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Re: Froome Talk Only

14 Mar 2018 10:33

Rollthedice wrote:
thehog wrote:
Ironhead Slim wrote:It is the Flowers for Algernon effect.


thehog wrote:How did Dawg do today? Was he on 2010 Commonwealth Games sandshoe form? :cool:


Just saw, 20 seconds down on a short ITT. Not bad, not good for the World Championship bronze medalist.


Nothing a few weeks on Teide can't fix.


I'd imagine Froome would be satisfied with his performance yesterday. He was fastest of those who rode in the wet (beating Thomas who was riding for podium place).

Looks to me that his prep is going well.
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Re: Froome Talk Only

14 Mar 2018 10:51

https://twitter.com/damienhef/status/972975802575933443

This video is so cringeworthy it’s funny. The two most forced coughs you’ll ever see. If this is the best his PR team can come up with.**** the Hypocrisy added,

The coughs are from the ridiculous amount of asthma inhalations he's taking....not a nervous rehearsed cough...he coughs as soon as he gets over the finish line so its not rehearsed.
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Re: Froome Talk Only

14 Mar 2018 11:19

Cycle Chic wrote:https://twitter.com/damienhef/status/972975802575933443

This video is so cringeworthy it’s funny. The two most forced coughs you’ll ever see. If this is the best his PR team can come up with.**** the Hypocrisy added,

The coughs are from the ridiculous amount of asthma inhalations he's taking....not a nervous rehearsed cough...he coughs as soon as he gets over the finish line so its not rehearsed.


Andalucia coughing after the effort last month (not interviewed) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcLwh2nGbGI

TDF 2008 coughing aftre the TT effort (interviewed) https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=265&v=NttM0p8Q_yU
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Re: Froome Talk Only

14 Mar 2018 15:19

pastronef wrote:
Cycle Chic wrote:https://twitter.com/damienhef/status/972975802575933443

This video is so cringeworthy it’s funny. The two most forced coughs you’ll ever see. If this is the best his PR team can come up with.**** the Hypocrisy added,

The coughs are from the ridiculous amount of asthma inhalations he's taking....not a nervous rehearsed cough...he coughs as soon as he gets over the finish line so its not rehearsed.


Andalucia coughing after the effort last month (not interviewed) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcLwh2nGbGI

TDF 2008 coughing aftre the TT effort (interviewed) https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=265&v=NttM0p8Q_yU


There was a time when Ullrich’s stomach was the hot pre-season talk. Now Froome’s cough :cool:
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Re: Froome Talk Only

14 Mar 2018 15:57

pastronef wrote:
Cycle Chic wrote:https://twitter.com/damienhef/status/972975802575933443

This video is so cringeworthy it’s funny. The two most forced coughs you’ll ever see. If this is the best his PR team can come up with.**** the Hypocrisy added,

The coughs are from the ridiculous amount of asthma inhalations he's taking....not a nervous rehearsed cough...he coughs as soon as he gets over the finish line so its not rehearsed.


Andalucia coughing after the effort last month (not interviewed) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcLwh2nGbGI

TDF 2008 coughing aftre the TT effort (interviewed) https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=265&v=NttM0p8Q_yU


I have video of myself coughing after a criterium. I must have asthma. Come on folks.
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Re: Froome Talk Only

14 Mar 2018 16:29

red_flanders wrote:
pastronef wrote:
Cycle Chic wrote:https://twitter.com/damienhef/status/972975802575933443

This video is so cringeworthy it’s funny. The two most forced coughs you’ll ever see. If this is the best his PR team can come up with.**** the Hypocrisy added,

The coughs are from the ridiculous amount of asthma inhalations he's taking....not a nervous rehearsed cough...he coughs as soon as he gets over the finish line so its not rehearsed.


Andalucia coughing after the effort last month (not interviewed) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcLwh2nGbGI

TDF 2008 coughing aftre the TT effort (interviewed) https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=265&v=NttM0p8Q_yU


I have video of myself coughing after a criterium. I must have asthma. Come on folks.


I was replying to people talking of "fake coughing" during the Tirreno interview. I posted him coughing after Andalucia and in TDF 2008. that does not mean he has asthma, but calling it "fake coughing" :lol:
I cough too after a strong and long effort.
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Re: Froome Talk Only

14 Mar 2018 16:50

pastronef wrote:
red_flanders wrote:
pastronef wrote:
Cycle Chic wrote:https://twitter.com/damienhef/status/972975802575933443

This video is so cringeworthy it’s funny. The two most forced coughs you’ll ever see. If this is the best his PR team can come up with.**** the Hypocrisy added,

The coughs are from the ridiculous amount of asthma inhalations he's taking....not a nervous rehearsed cough...he coughs as soon as he gets over the finish line so its not rehearsed.


Andalucia coughing after the effort last month (not interviewed) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcLwh2nGbGI

TDF 2008 coughing aftre the TT effort (interviewed) https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=265&v=NttM0p8Q_yU


I have video of myself coughing after a criterium. I must have asthma. Come on folks.


I was replying to people talking of "fake coughing" during the Tirreno interview. I posted him coughing after Andalucia and in TDF 2008. that does not mean he has asthma, but calling it "fake coughing" :lol:
I cough too after a strong and long effort.


me too and i dont have asthma either! i would say many people would have similar brief bouts of coughing after a hard effort; i dont know if he was faking the coughing or not, either way its no proof of an illness
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Re: Froome Talk Only

14 Mar 2018 19:29

pastronef wrote:
red_flanders wrote:
pastronef wrote:
Cycle Chic wrote:https://twitter.com/damienhef/status/972975802575933443

This video is so cringeworthy it’s funny. The two most forced coughs you’ll ever see. If this is the best his PR team can come up with.**** the Hypocrisy added,

The coughs are from the ridiculous amount of asthma inhalations he's taking....not a nervous rehearsed cough...he coughs as soon as he gets over the finish line so its not rehearsed.


Andalucia coughing after the effort last month (not interviewed) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcLwh2nGbGI

TDF 2008 coughing aftre the TT effort (interviewed) https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=265&v=NttM0p8Q_yU


I have video of myself coughing after a criterium. I must have asthma. Come on folks.


I was replying to people talking of "fake coughing" during the Tirreno interview. I posted him coughing after Andalucia and in TDF 2008. that does not mean he has asthma, but calling it "fake coughing" :lol:
I cough too after a strong and long effort.


Fair enough! Cheers.
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