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11 Aug 2018 19:15

Will we be able to add 17 year old runners from Norway to the list
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11 Aug 2018 19:23

rick james wrote:Will we be able to add 17 year old runners from Norway to the list

That was absurdly impressive, not as impressive as breaking the European junior record the first time he ever ran the steeplechase though.
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12 Aug 2018 13:48

ClassicomanoLuigi wrote:Marion Jones.
She wasn't mentioned in the thread yet - has all of the criteria for Hall of Doping Fame
Superstardom, five Olympic gold medals, involved in the BALCO, and one of the few athletes ever to go to jail as a result of her doping. Six months in federal prison, for real. Hard to beat that


She's the first of the two videos I linked on the previous page. If I recall correctly though, she was actually jailed for perjury because she lied to a grand jury about doping rather than for doping itself. Technical distinction I know, but that's law for you.
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12 Aug 2018 16:53

Scarponi wrote:
Koronin wrote:China's swim team, although don't remember which Olympics it was.

That 16 year old Chinese female swimmer who beat the final split of Phelps or Lochte in the medley, now thats some rocket fuel

Ye Shiwen's 400 IM in London 2012! One of the most impressive doped performances ever! She closed the last 50m freestyle in 28'93 vs Lochte's 29'10!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArKGCqlVbLQ

Swimming is indeed one of the dirtiest sports out there: being in the water makes the sport less stressful than, say, running and implies that there are huge gains from EPO or transfusions allowing the athletes to train like machines. My impression is that the anti-doping culture outside of competition is pretty mild compared to, say, cycling.

Another all-time best in the list must be Katie Ledecky!
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12 Aug 2018 17:36

OldCranky wrote:She's the first of the two videos I linked on the previous page. If I recall correctly though, she was actually jailed for perjury because she lied to a grand jury about doping rather than for doping itself. Technical distinction I know, but that's law for you.
Ah, I didn't click the URL link so I didn't know it had been covered
Yeah, that's exactly right, Marion Jones went to prison for lying to federal investigators of her case. Not for possession or trafficking of illegal drugs. And not for her doping per se, it's just how her endless deceit got her in big trouble
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12 Aug 2018 18:05

lebron, nadal, ray lewis
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12 Aug 2018 18:55

Tiger Woods, golf
- worked with a doping doctor known for Human Growth Hormone and blood transfusion
- some PGA tour players allege he used anabolic steroids (totally unproven accusation)
- got arrested for driving under the influence of drugs, five drugs in his blood, two of which are banned
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12 Aug 2018 19:13

rick james wrote:Will we be able to add 17 year old runners from Norway to the list

:lol: If it had been a Brit you would have been shooting the messenger of this. You're one of the biggest trolling hypocrites on this board :lol
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12 Aug 2018 20:03

rick james wrote:Will we be able to add 17 year old runners from Norway to the list


No because he is showing talent at a young age :D
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12 Aug 2018 20:21

I just seen on TV EAC broadcast, some two legged 19yo freak from Sweden jumping with a pole 6.05 m
With 30 cm reserve. It didn't look normal :)
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12 Aug 2018 22:01

klintE wrote:I just seen on TV EAC broadcast, some two legged 19yo freak from Sweden jumping with a pole 6.05 m
With 30 cm reserve. It didn't look normal :)


Never been over 5.95 m before and only Bubka has been higher - Armand Duplantis - 18 year old. Has been first in Worlds U 18 & U 20 - see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armand_Duplantis. Has an American father so Sweden can n't take all the credit! :lol:
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13 Aug 2018 07:02

OldCranky wrote:Now where have I seen a finish like that before? Oh yeah...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mrt9yZL8dbI


Doesn't even seem like she had a great start.
It's interesting though, the longevity of this and some other track&fields records, that nobody has come close since depsite all the medical and sports science advances.

Maybe testing does work to some extent.
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13 Aug 2018 08:18

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13 Aug 2018 08:32

MartinGT wrote:
rick james wrote:Will we be able to add 17 year old runners from Norway to the list

:lol: If it had been a Brit you would have been shooting the messenger of this. You're one of the biggest trolling hypocrites on this board :lol

I’m just doing what the clinic does, put names out there with no proof....what you take from my posts is up to you
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