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10 Jan 2019 13:30

Spanish tennis match fixing ring.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/jan/10/police-spain-break-up-tennis-match-fixing-ring-28-pros

Cyclists to be the only ones found guilty!!
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11 Jan 2019 07:26

wansteadimp wrote:Spanish tennis match fixing ring.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/jan/10/police-spain-break-up-tennis-match-fixing-ring-28-pros

Cyclists to be the only ones found guilty!!


That's not good. Wonder if the names will be released?

Hopefully they can't tie cycling to this one. Don't know of any cyclists who also are tennis players.
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12 Jul 2019 22:15

Yet again this is in the news. Apparently WADA has been able to get DNA from 35 of the blood/plasma bags of the 200 they received. However, they aren't going to release names even though it sounds like they have been able to match most if not all the bags to athletes.
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12 Jul 2019 22:50

"Puerto bags to be handed over" was the closest in here to a mega-thread on Operación Puerto

This latest article seems sort of a non-story, since they had the blood for 3 years, a lot of time for WADA to accomplish little of consequence

"nearly completed work to match DNA samples".
Somewhat newsworthy I guess by answering what they have been doing, but if they never intend to release the names ... people will just think "what does it matter"

Maybe it's a kind of bargaining-chip to keep certain athletes in fear of being publicly identified, or to show symbolically that WADA has any authority at all
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13 Jul 2019 04:38

"We can't legally release the data but we we have it - would be a great shame if it got out - yoo-hoo, fancy bears, are you listening"
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13 Jul 2019 07:14

alternator wrote:"We can't legally release the data but we we have it - would be a great shame if it got out - yoo-hoo, fancy bears, are you listening"


There must be a fair chance it will be hacked or leaked ...
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13 Jul 2019 10:11

alternator wrote:"We can't legally release the data but we we have it - would be a great shame if it got out - yoo-hoo, fancy bears, are you listening"

if it was a British Tour winner it would have been realised already
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14 Jul 2019 05:09

rick james wrote:
alternator wrote:"We can't legally release the data but we we have it - would be a great shame if it got out - yoo-hoo, fancy bears, are you listening"

if it was a British Tour winner it would have been realised already



As there were exactly 0 British Grand Tour winners prior to 2006, it would be highly unlikely a British Tour winner was invovled as Wiggins was a 2nd (?) year pro (so possible, although unlikely that he was going to Spain for doping) and Froome hadn't turned pro yet. Most of the names are likely Spanish and Italian and not cyclists.
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14 Jul 2019 08:07

I think what Ricky is getting at is that British winners are unfairly picked on, discriminated against, treated in a prejudicial manner and held to a higher standard than everyone else, purely because they are British.

Which is bollocks, of course. Ricky only started watching cycling in 2012 do he doesn't know that in the 13 years prior to a British winner, 9 of the Tour winners had their wins revoked :lol:
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14 Jul 2019 08:18

Nah, ricky just wants to shift the subject of discussion onto Sky and British riders, so he can accuse the board of being obsessed with them by turning another discussion that isn't about Sky and British riders into a discussion of Sky and British riders.
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18 Jul 2019 01:38

Koronin wrote:
rick james wrote:
alternator wrote:"We can't legally release the data but we we have it - would be a great shame if it got out - yoo-hoo, fancy bears, are you listening"

if it was a British Tour winner it would have been realised already



As there were exactly 0 British Grand Tour winners prior to 2006, it would be highly unlikely a British Tour winner was invovled as Wiggins was a 2nd (?) year pro (so possible, although unlikely that he was going to Spain for doping) and Froome hadn't turned pro yet. Most of the names are likely Spanish and Italian and not cyclists.


Froome was technically still a Kenyan in those days.
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20 Jul 2019 17:07

Hey the Brits don't dope do they? Never get caught even if they beat dopers in the process. They are just that good.
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20 Jul 2019 17:10

The first name that comes to mind is Nadal.
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