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Re: General Doping Thread.

23 Jul 2018 21:54

Ryan Lochte breaks new ground in getting a 14 month doping suspension:

USADA said Lochte was suspended after basically incriminating himself on social media. The release said on May 24, Lochte posted a picture of himself getting “an intravenous infusion of permitted substances at an infusion clinic in a volume greater than 100 mL in a 12-hour period without a Therapeutic Use Exemption (TUE).” USADA investigated and found that Lochte did not have a TUE and applied the penalty.


If he'd had a better lawyer, I'm sure he could have shown that picture was consistent with no more than 100 ml.

Judging from Lochte’s Instagram photo, he received the disqualifiying infusion at Revival IV Lounge in Gainesville. The business’ website advertises 15 items on its “IV Menu,” ranging in price from $65 to $175 and offering treatments ranging from basic hydration to allergy relief to alleviating migraines.


https://sports.yahoo.com/ryan-lochte-suspended-14-months-u-s-anti-doping-agency-164804861.html
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24 Jul 2018 11:50

Lochte must be silly after the case involving the Spanish football player - Curious as to how this 15 month penalty compares to similar cases - My guess is IV transfusions are ' part and parcel ' of professional sport.
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24 Jul 2018 11:53

yaco wrote:Lochte must be silly after the case involving the Spanish football player - Curious as to how this 15 month penalty compares to similar cases.


It was 14 months, later 10 months off for admission.
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02 Aug 2018 10:55

https://nos.nl/nieuwsuur/artikel/2244211-verontrustend-misbruik-van-schildklierhormoon-door-topsporters.html

apparently dutch speedskating athletes are using thyroid hormones for alleged weight-loss benefits. it's not currently on the WADA list but does pose health risks. dutch ADA is now calling on WADA to put it on the doping list.

marginal gains at work here.
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02 Aug 2018 11:00

gerundium wrote:https://nos.nl/nieuwsuur/artikel/2244211-verontrustend-misbruik-van-schildklierhormoon-door-topsporters.html

apparently dutch speedskating athletes are using thyroid hormones for alleged weight-loss benefits. it's not currently on the WADA list but does pose health risks. dutch ADA is now calling on WADA to put it on the doping list.

marginal gains at work here.

Also pro-cyclists are mentioned (not by name) in this report.
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02 Aug 2018 11:42

I really think the primary reason for doping controls is to make sure that the competitors don't drop dead. Nobody wins under that scenario.

Cycling used to be more honest about doping too. After Tom Simpson died that was no longer an option.
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02 Aug 2018 13:13

DanielSong39 wrote:Cycling used to be more honest about doping too. After Tom Simpson died that was no longer an option.
Ah, the days of artisanal doping. How we miss them. That's the problem with doping today, it's not hipster enough.
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14 Aug 2018 08:29

Former female boxing champion Mia St. John admits she used steroids and lots of other stuff for most of her career, and that "everyone does it and everyone in boxing knows it." Never failed a doping test.

But the testing works, guys. Honest.
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Re: General Doping Thread.

14 Aug 2018 08:44

El vigente campeón mundial de Keirin está suspendido de manera provisional por la UCI por el supuesto consumo de Boldenona, un esteroide.
http://www.elespectador.com/deportes/ciclismo/fabian-puerta-positivo-en-control-al-dopaje-articulo-806013
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Re: General Doping Thread.

14 Aug 2018 12:33

Tim Booth wrote:El vigente campeón mundial de Keirin está suspendido de manera provisional por la UCI por el supuesto consumo de Boldenona, un esteroide.
http://www.elespectador.com/deportes/ciclismo/fabian-puerta-positivo-en-control-al-dopaje-articulo-806013



English version

https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/latest-news/colombian-cyclist-fabian-puerta-tests-positive-steroid-boldenona-391101
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14 Aug 2018 18:51

Though not nearly incriminating, the Gaviria connection raises some eyebrows.
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15 Aug 2018 07:54

Dunno if this might need its own thread, but I'm too lazy to make one.

So, is there any sort of competition where you couldn't get an advantage what-so-ever from taking some kind of drugs?
I mean, even in competitive sleeping you could get an advantage from taking drugs...
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15 Aug 2018 08:40

Xuban Errazkin popped up before the Volta.
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15 Aug 2018 08:46

Ricco' wrote:Xuban Errazkin popped up before the Volta.


Goodbye Avenir

So I went on twitter to look for sources. Found a french guy saying Errazkin tested positive. Here's the fun part. The tweet is "liked" by a couple Euskadi-Murias riders. That's...interesting

Also found this that's hilarious in hindsight
https://twitter.com/faustocoppi60/status/1027222556695244802
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15 Aug 2018 12:23

RedheadDane wrote:Dunno if this might need its own thread, but I'm too lazy to make one.

So, is there any sort of competition where you couldn't get an advantage what-so-ever from taking some kind of drugs?
I mean, even in competitive sleeping you could get an advantage from taking drugs...


Chess?
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15 Aug 2018 12:30

TheSpud wrote:
RedheadDane wrote:Dunno if this might need its own thread, but I'm too lazy to make one.

So, is there any sort of competition where you couldn't get an advantage what-so-ever from taking some kind of drugs?
I mean, even in competitive sleeping you could get an advantage from taking drugs...


Chess?


Nope.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28119083
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15 Aug 2018 14:29

King Boonen wrote:
TheSpud wrote:
RedheadDane wrote:Dunno if this might need its own thread, but I'm too lazy to make one.

So, is there any sort of competition where you couldn't get an advantage what-so-ever from taking some kind of drugs?
I mean, even in competitive sleeping you could get an advantage from taking drugs...


Chess?


Nope.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28119083





Nope. Probably the first dude who popularize chess might have stolen the idea from somebody else... :D


"He held the Grandmaster title from 2014 to 2015, when it was revoked after he was found to have cheated during a tournament."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaioz_Nigalidze
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15 Aug 2018 16:57

For some reason I always associated chess doping to be beta-blockers and the like.
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16 Aug 2018 05:47

Fabián Puerta
https://www.antena2.com.co/ciclismo/fabian-puerta-y-el-espaldarazo-de-la-federacion-colombiana-de-ciclismo
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Colombian Cycling Federation announced on Wednesday that, after the notification of the International Cycling Union about the positive of Fabián Puerta in an anti-doping control, the institution began a process of accompaniment to solve the case as soon as possible.

The sample that was taken last June 11 when Fabián Puerta participated in the National Track Cycling Championships, showed an irregular sample in the boldenone substance and now the second test should be studied to rule out doping.

"Our Federation, headed by its President Jorge Ovidio González, the Executive Committee and its officials, deeply regret this positive for the Boldenone substance and at the same time will accompany our cyclist in everything pertinent to analyze the second sample and forward the legal defense as appropriate, "explains the statement of the Federation.

Likewise, the official communication confirms that the test was taken outside the competition and the concentration with the Colombian track team, so the defense will take this item into account to advance the investigation.

The Executive Committee, its officials and President Jorge Ovidio González also confirm that they will always be fighting irregularities in sports, but at the same time they want to support the defense of the athletes who have always represented the country in the best way and have never raised suspicion.


http://www.uci.ch/pressreleases/uci-statement-fabian-hernando-puerta-zapata/

The Union Cycliste Internationale (UCI) announces that it has notified Colombian rider Fabian Hernando Puerta Zapata of an Adverse Analytical Finding (AAF) of boldenone* in a sample collected in the scope of an out-of-competition control on 11 June 2018.

The doping control was planned and carried out by the Cycling Anti-Doping Foundation (CADF), the independent body mandated by the UCI, in charge of defining and implementing the anti-doping strategy in cycling.

The rider has the right to request and attend the analysis of the B sample.

In accordance with UCI Anti-Doping Rules, the rider has been provisionally suspended until the adjudication of the affair.

At this stage of the procedure, the UCI will not comment any further.

*Boldenone is classified as Endogenous Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS)and is prohibited when administered exogenously as per the World Anti-Doping Prohibited List.
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Re: General Doping Thread.

16 Sep 2018 17:30

Did anyone see the Alvarez Golovkin fight? Alvarez had a really deep, wide gash over his eye but there was hardly any bleeding from it.

Looked quite strange to me...there's a certain drug popular amongst cyclists that could explain that....
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