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What do you think about Alpe D'Huez in the Giro?

Awesome!
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13%
Great news
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23%
Not that awesome compared to other italian climbs
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43%
Will be the warm-up before the real mountains
17
9%
Will be considered as a flat stage by RCS
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12%
 
Total votes : 182

31 May 2011 11:36

Magnus wrote:It's only for a few km...

What if UCI stops it the day before?
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31 May 2011 11:40

Eshnar wrote:The more likely route (imho) should be this one
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Agnello, Izoard, Lautaret, Alpe


That would be awesome.
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31 May 2011 11:46

roundabout wrote:Glandon is probably the nearest big climb to Alpe d'Huez and it's still almost 40k from the top of Glandon to the start of the climb. Even the Giro can't fix that.


I realise they will never have Alpe coming straight off a descent, but they could probably do better to front load it. This year's stage isn't bad, but a bigger climb before Telegraphe/Galibier would have made it harder. 2008 they did the easy side of Galibier and maybe one other?
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31 May 2011 11:48

Eshnar wrote:What if UCI stops it the day before?


Well at least it should be possible to have cars and ambulances behind the peloton.
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31 May 2011 11:51

What I want from the 2012 Giro-

- No TTT
- Prologue (confirmed)
- More sprinter's stages (4/5 in the first 10 days and 2 in the final week, including the final stage to encourage them to stay in).
- Stade Bianche
- Only 1 TT, but it being a long and undulating TT similar to 2009.
- Less Mountain top finishes 4/5 at most.
- At least one finish immediately following a descent of a big climb.
- 1 epic dolomite stage similar to stage 15 this year.
- Passo Stelivo
- No Zoncolan
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31 May 2011 11:54

Jan the Man wrote:- More sprinter's stages (4/5 in the first 10 days and 2 in the final week, including the final stage to encourage them to stay in).
- Stade Bianche

Until Zomegnan is in charge, this will never happen. He stated that the final stage will always be a TT.
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31 May 2011 11:57

Eshnar wrote:Agreed for the false flats.
I don't like the Gavia-Stelvio-Kleinboden because that would mean using the easy side of the Stelvio, which I see as a waste (they climb it rarely, at least use the proper side)


Then have a MTF on the Stelvio the day after. It doesn't have to be either/or. ;)
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31 May 2011 12:05

18-Valve. (pithy) wrote:Then have a MTF on the Stelvio the day after. It doesn't have to be either/or. ;)

This could do it.:)
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31 May 2011 12:18

crostis ITT
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31 May 2011 12:27

jens_attacks wrote:i hope there won't be zoncolan again.and back tre cime di lavaredo and stelvio


Stelvia would be nice, and I'd rather keep it all Italian rather than add the Alpe d'Huez.
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31 May 2011 12:30

Eshnar wrote:Here you have it
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That screams Vincenzo Nibali.
RIP Wouter Weylandt - 27 September 1984 – 9 May 2011.

RIP Xavier Tondó Volpini - 5 November 1978 – 23 May 2011

RIP John aka theswordsman - 2 July 1957 - 1 August 2011

Wouter, John and Xavi, you all will be missed.
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31 May 2011 12:38

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31 May 2011 12:42

If the Stelvio is going to be back in, I hope they have a viable Plan B, because IIRC, snow is a major problem, even in May.
RIP Wouter Weylandt - 27 September 1984 – 9 May 2011.

RIP Xavier Tondó Volpini - 5 November 1978 – 23 May 2011

RIP John aka theswordsman - 2 July 1957 - 1 August 2011

Wouter, John and Xavi, you all will be missed.
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31 May 2011 12:49

Eshnar wrote:The more likely route (imho) should be this one
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Agnello, Izoard, Lautaret, Alpe


Yeah, they did this stage in 1994 with the finish in Les Deux Alpes. In this edition they also did THE tappone, with Pantani flying on Mortirolo.

Lecco wants a stage next year for a time trial to Piani Resinelli. And there could be a tough mountain stage with Piani di Praglia, Madonna della Guardia, Bocchetta, Castagnola and Giovi finishing in the heart of Genova.

My wishes are: More medium mountain stages 220km+ instead of bs like Macugnaga, two longer tt (one flat, and one hilly/mountainous like Riomaggiore 2009 or Saint-Étienne 1997) and a finish on Colle di Tenda's french side with 48 hairpins and sterrato.
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31 May 2011 13:02

craig1985 wrote:That screams Vincenzo Nibali.


He'll be long gone before the final descent.
Ryo Hazuki wrote:contador is such a coward :o
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31 May 2011 13:03

This thread has got me so excited for next May!

Jan The Man, you got some nice ideas there!
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31 May 2011 13:04

Am I the only one that likes climbs like Alpe D'huez or Etna more than stuff like the Zoncolan and Angliru?
Ryo Hazuki wrote:horrible. boonen just the same guy as years before and this course is too hard for him. that's why he rode like a coward there were at least 3 guys stronger than boonen today and none of them won: sagan, ballan, pozzato


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31 May 2011 13:12

Lupetto wrote:Lecco wants a stage next year for a time trial to Piani Resinelli. And there could be a tough mountain stage with Piani di Praglia, Madonna della Guardia, Bocchetta, Castagnola and Giovi finishing in the heart of Genova.

Living in Genova, I can't disagree with that :D
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31 May 2011 13:15

El Pistolero wrote:Am I the only one that likes climbs like Alpe D'huez or Etna more than stuff like the Zoncolan and Angliru?


I like Alpe D'Heuz, despite the not so steep (still tough) gradient, it usually is pretty decisive. The constant corners are great.

Etna I find to be very overrated (I looked at the profile prior to the giro, and thought it more after they raced it).

But anyway Zoncolan is just amazing. I love seeing the strongest grind their way up a mountain, slowly opening a gap.
T'is better then any one day race, or stage for me. Epic.
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31 May 2011 13:25

Hugo Koblet wrote:He'll be long gone before the final descent.


Admitting he's gonna race the Giro and not the Tour, depending on many things, Basso 2011 performance and will for 2012, for first.
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