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13 Jun 2011 11:44

If all goes well for Contador this year we could probably see him riding and finishing La Vuelta. This got me thinking. If you take total overall position of one rider completing all three Grand Tours in one year, who has the lowest sum of overall positions?

[color="Red"]*updated complete list at the bottom of this post[/color]

First on my mind is Carlos Sastre 2010
2010
Giro 8
Tour 20
Vuelta 8
Total 32

Julian Dean
2009
Giro 136
Tour 121
Vuelta 132
Total 389 :D

But than,

Marino Lejarreta
1989
Giro 10
Tour 5
Vuelta 19
Total 34

Federico Bahamontes
1958
Giro 17
Tour 8
Vuelta 6
Total 31

Gastone Nencini
1957
Giro 1
Tour 6
Vuelta 9
Total 16

So Gaston leads for now.
Name all the rides you can think of so we can make and all time One-year-triple-grand tour-best-overall-rider list.

ps. Please suggest a shorter name for this title. :)

EDIT: Added later,

[color="Red"]COMPLETE LIST[/color] (ongoing)

#1 [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raphaël_Géminiani]Raphaël Géminiani[/url]
1955
Vuelta 3
Giro 4
Tour 6
Total 13

#2 Gastone Nencini
1957
Giro 1
Tour 6
Vuelta 9
Total 16

#3 Federico Bahamontes
1958
Giro 17
Tour 8
Vuelta 6
Total 31

#4 Carlos Sastre
2010
Giro 8
Tour 20
Vuelta 8
Total 32

#5 Marino Lejarreta
1989
Giro 10
Tour 5
Vuelta 19
Total 34

#6 Marzio Bruseghin
2008
Giro 3
Tour 24
Vuelta 10
Total 38

#7 Mario Aerts
2007
Giro 20
Tour 69
Vuelta 28
Total 117

#8 José Manuel Fuente
1971
Tour: 72
Giro: 39
Vuelta: 54
Total: 165

#9 Erik Zabel
2008
Giro 80
Tour 43
Vuelta 49
Total 172

#10 Neil Stephens
1992
Giro 57
Tour 74
Vuelta 66
Total 197

#11 Giovanni Lombardi
2005
Giro d'Italia: 88
Tour de France: 118
Vuelta a España: 114
Total 320

#12 Julian Dean
2009
Giro 136
Tour 121
Vuelta 132
Total 389
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13 Jun 2011 12:32

Problem is that the Giro and Vuelta were at the same time during the 60-70-80's...
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13 Jun 2011 12:50

Who cares, we look at the results on all three GT, we are not saying that the best on this list is best rider ever...

Question is which rider was able to races in three Grand Tours in one year on a highest level given the opportunity to do so.

EDIT: But also if you can think of someone like Dean up there, mention him too. It would be nice to have as complete list as we can.
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13 Jun 2011 12:53

David Millar did all 3 GT last year I pretty sure.
Alexi Grewal to Hinault stage 14 into Superbagnéres 1986 ´You blew it, Bernie. You f*cked up.´
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13 Jun 2011 13:40

I thought the same, but I checked on CQ rankings and found that he DNF on stage 13 at Giro.
Shame, I really thought he did it:(
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13 Jun 2011 13:49

I got a new one,

Erik Zabel
2008
Giro 80
Tour 43
Vuelta 49
Total 172

I think he road this Tour to see how high in GC he can go. I remember him chasing the main group after a puncture on second to last climb on Alp d'Huez stage.
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14 Jun 2011 01:19

I am pretty sure that neil stephens completed all three tours in the same year.
The vuelta was first, then the giro and then the tour
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14 Jun 2011 06:48

Nicoper wrote:
First on my mind is Carlos Sastre
2008
Giro 8
Tour 20
Vuelta 8
Total 32



Don't you mean 1st in the TDF. Moments that broke Aussie hearts. ( the memories )
I'd agree with you but then we'd both be wrong

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14 Jun 2011 09:06

greenedge wrote:Don't you mean 1st in the TDF. Moments that broke Aussie hearts. ( the memories )


These are the 2010 results, in 2008 Sastre "only" did the Tour (1st) and the Vuelta (3rd).
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14 Jun 2011 10:05

Fus087 wrote:These are the 2010 results, in 2008 Sastre "only" did the Tour (1st) and the Vuelta (3rd).


Yup. It was a typo on my side.

C50dream wrote:I am pretty sure that neil stephens completed all three tours in the same year.
The vuelta was first, then the giro and then the tour


Tnx. I added him to the list.
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16 Jun 2011 21:27

Come on people don't forget this topic.

I am curious and lazy therefore I need your help on this. :D
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16 Jun 2011 22:27

Eduardo Chozas 1991
Vuelta 11
Giro 10
Tour 11
Total: 32

Beats Sastre 2010: 8+20+8 = 36
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16 Jun 2011 23:27

Nicoper wrote:Come on people don't forget this topic.

I am curious and lazy therefore I need your help on this. :D


So only one season gets in contention???
Not 3 GTs in a row in one year. I mean for example 2007 Vuelta 2008 Giro and 2009 Tour. This doesn`t count? because it is still less than a year,but in 2 seasons.

If it does counts than I add this guy
Denis Menchov

2007 Vuelta 1st
2008 Giro 5th
2008 Tour 3rd
SUM: 9

:D

OFF topic, but nice avatar.
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16 Jun 2011 23:58

José Manuel Fuente (1971) before he busted onto the scene:

Tour: 72
Giro: 39
Vuelta: 54
Total: 165

Salvador Botella (1958) was on the way for a great score until he abandoned the 21st stage of the Tour where he was 10th

Giro: 15
Vuelta: 14
Tour (quasi 10th)
Quasi score of 39
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17 Jun 2011 08:51

DenisMenchov wrote:So only one season gets in contention???
Not 3 GTs in a row in one year. I mean for example 2007 Vuelta 2009 Giro and 2009 Tour. This doesn`t count? because it is still less than a year,but in 2 seasons.

If it does counts than I add this guy
Denis Menchov

2007 Vuelta 1st
2008 Giro 5th
2008 Tour 3rd
SUM: 9


If you count this way than Indurain had a good streak in 1991-1992

1991 Tour 1st
1991 Vuelta 2nd
1992 Giro 1st
1992 Tour 1st

Sum: 4 (cut one of the tour victories)
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17 Jun 2011 09:14

Nicoper wrote:#1 Gastone Nencini
1957
Giro 1
Tour 6
Vuelta 9
Total 16


Raphaël Géminiani
1955
Vuelta 3
Giro 4
Tour 6
Total 13
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17 Jun 2011 09:23

nvpacchi wrote:José Manuel Fuente (1971) before he busted onto the scene:

Tour: 72
Giro: 39
Vuelta: 54
Total: 165

Salvador Botella (1958) was on the way for a great score until he abandoned the 21st stage of the Tour where he was 10th

Giro: 15
Vuelta: 14
Tour (quasi 10th)
Quasi score of 39


Ullrich
Vuelta 99 1
Tour 2000 2
Giro 2001 52

Sum 54 :D:D
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17 Jun 2011 09:31

DenisMenchov wrote:So only one season gets in contention???
Not 3 GTs in a row in one year. I mean for example 2007 Vuelta 2008 Giro and 2009 Tour. This doesn`t count? because it is still less than a year,but in 2 seasons.

If it does counts than I add this guy
Denis Menchov

2007 Vuelta 1st
2008 Giro 5th
2008 Tour 3rd
SUM: 9

:D



Sastre
2008 Tour 1
2008 Vuelta 3
2008 Giro 3

Sum: 7
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17 Jun 2011 09:53

Frosty wrote:Sastre
2008 Tour 1
2008 Vuelta 3
2008 Giro 3

Sum: 7

No

.......................

2009 Giro: fourth
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17 Jun 2011 18:23

Sastre 2006
46
3
4
=53
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