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17 Jun 2011 18:31

Marzio Bruseghin 2008:
Giro 3
Tour 27
Vuelta 9
sum: 39
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17 Jun 2011 18:33

oevkride wrote:If you count this way than Indurain had a good streak in 1991-1992

1991 Tour 1st
1991 Vuelta 2nd
1992 Giro 1st
1992 Tour 1st

Sum: 4 (cut one of the tour victories)


Wasn't the 91 vuelta before the 91 giro?
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17 Jun 2011 18:35

Alberto Contador
2011

Giro:1
Tour:1
Vuelta:1

total: 3







maybe
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17 Jun 2011 18:38

El Pistolero wrote:No

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2009 Giro: fourth


What about Di Luca's clinic issue?
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17 Jun 2011 18:38

still that was in 2009 not 2008
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17 Jun 2011 19:00

I'd say any 3 wins within a 1 year timeframe should count.

For example, with the current schedule, Vuelta 2010/Giro 2011/Tour 2011 would count... the end of the 2011 tour was less then a year from the beginning of the 2010 Vuelta.

But Giro 2010/Tour 2010/Vuelta 2011 would not count. The Vuelta was more then a year after the Giro.
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17 Jun 2011 19:53

Perico (Pedro Delgado) I believe has the best record in # of top 10 grand tour finishes with 18! Sorry for the sidetrack but I had to insert that because I consider it to be quite an accomplishment.:)
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17 Jun 2011 20:01

Nicoper wrote:Who cares, we look at the results on all three GT, we are not saying that the best on this list is best rider ever...

Question is which rider was able to races in three Grand Tours in one year on a highest level given the opportunity to do so.

EDIT: But also if you can think of someone like Dean up there, mention him too. It would be nice to have as complete list as we can.


Carlos Sastre in 2008 was better than 2010. But I'd consider 3 consecutive GT's not exclusively raced in the same season. Take Carlos Tour 2008, Vuelta 2008 and the Giro 2009. He finishes below 10 when you combine those on 7 when his overall placing are added. Of course this is when the elimiations from the Giro come into play (DiLuca). Pretty damn low and just as legit as doing it all in one season IMO.
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17 Jun 2011 20:01

kurtinsc wrote:I'd say any 3 wins within a 1 year timeframe should count.

For example, with the current schedule, Vuelta 2010/Giro 2011/Tour 2011 would count... the end of the 2011 tour was less then a year from the beginning of the 2010 Vuelta.

But Giro 2010/Tour 2010/Vuelta 2011 would not count. The Vuelta was more then a year after the Giro.


I think that the problem with this is that with the former schedule of Vuelta doing the tour and than the Vuelta-Giro double the following season wasn't such a big deal because riders had time to recover from the end of the Tour till the Vuelta. The same with doing Giro-Tour double and than the Vuelta the following season.
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17 Jun 2011 20:48

Giovanni Lombardi 2005:

Giro d'Italia: 88
Tour de France: 118
Vuelta a España: 114

Total: 320

Hardly record breaking performances, but at least Lombardi can now see his name in neon lights on the list of tough guys :D
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17 Jun 2011 21:22

Ingsve once posted this:

Raphael GEMINIANI (Fra) 1955 4° 6° 3°
Gastone NENCINI (Ita) 1957 1° 6° 9°
Federico BAHAMONTES (Spa) 1958 17° 8° 6°
Eduardo CHOZAS (Spa) 1991 10° 11° 11°
Marino LEJARRETA (Spa) 1989 10° 5° 20°
Marino LEJARRETA (Spa) 1987 4° 10° 34°
Eduardo CHOZAS (Spa) 1990 11° 6° 33°
Marco GIOVANNETTI (Ita) 1991 8° 30° 18°
Arrigo PADOVAN (Ita) 1956 12° 26° 19°
Marino LEJARRETA (Spa) 1991 5° 53° 3°
Bernardo RUIZ (Spa) 1955 28° 22° 14°
Marino LEJARRETA (Spa) 1990 7° 5° 55°
Bernardo RUIZ (Spa) 1957 55° 24° 3°
Inaki GASTON (Spa) 1991 23° 61° 14°
José Luis URIBEZUBIA (Spa) 1971 29° 50° 27°
Pierino BAFFI (Ita) 1958 23° 63° 37°
Bernardo RUIZ (Spa) 1956 38° 70° 31°
Mariano Piccoli (Ita) 1999 38° 50° 58°
Alberto LEANIZBARRUTIA (Spa) 1991 64° 39° 44°
José Manuel FUENTE (Spa) 1971 39° 72° 54°
Vladimir PULNIKOV (Rus) 1991 11° 88° 66°
Luis-Javier LUKIN (Spa) 1988 32° 82° 60°
Louis CAPUT (Fra) 1955 68° 54° 55°
Guido BONTEMPI (Ita) 1992 40° 75° 62°
Neil STEPHENS (Aus) 1992 57° 74° 66°
Jon ODRIOZOLA (Spa) 2001 58° 69° 83°
Valerio TEBALDI (Ita) 1991 47° 89° 87°
Philippe POISSONIER (Fra) 1985 86° 90° 66°

A lot of Basques in this list.

Also Mario Aerts did it in 2007:

Giro 20th
Tour 69th
Vuelta 28th

Total: 117
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17 Jun 2011 23:03

You had to kill this topic, didnt you :)

Never mind I will complete my list (with wiki and cq links) just for fun.

Still Ingsve didnt mention Zabel and Dean.

When I finish with this one, I ll make best-overall-tour-rider-withinonecalendaryear-rider list. I thought first list is more representative because there is less resting period, but we can make the second one too.

Thank you all guys, keep them coming.

ps. I ll keep updating the list on the first page.
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19 Feb 2013 13:05

Didn´t Hansen did the triple in 2012?
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19 Feb 2013 13:44

Hondo also did it once 2011 or 2010 although im not sure if he finished in all races.

Edit in 2010 he finished Tour + Vuelta but DNS in stage 19 of Giro so never mind!
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19 Feb 2013 16:09

The one season triple has been done 39 times: [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Tour_%28cycling%29#Grand_Tour_finishers]see here[/url]

Lejarreta did it 4 times, and had two top tens each time.
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19 Feb 2013 16:15

That link made me realize Hugo Koblet was the name of an actual rider. I never knew.
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20 Feb 2013 06:37

FoxxyBrown1111 wrote:Didn´t Hansen did the triple in 2012?

Yes he did. Some quick research shows he was the 32nd rider to do it and the 2nd Australian.

He came:

Giro: 94th
Tour: 81st
Vuelta: 124th

Not bad considering he did a LOT of grunt work for Griepel and Van Den Broeck over the season.
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20 Feb 2013 11:16

42x16ss wrote:Yes he did. Some quick research shows he was the 32nd rider to do it and the 2nd Australian.

He came:

Giro: 94th
Tour: 81st
Vuelta: 124th

Not bad considering he did a LOT of grunt work for Griepel and Van Den Broeck over the season.


He wants to do it again t his year, but its not certain that he will be selected everywhere
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20 Feb 2013 15:58

Marino Lejarreta did the triple four times, including trying to win the Vuelta one of those years. The guy was a stud.

Michielveedeebee wrote:Problem is that the Giro and Vuelta were at the same time during the 60-70-80's...


Well, not really. The Vuelta was held the last three weeks in April, the Giro in May. As far as I know, the GTs never overlapped, though I could be wrong.

As an aside to that, there are quite a few people who want the Vuelta moved back to spring. Sandwiched between LBL and the Giro (or move the Giro a week forward as well). Food for thought.

Sorry for the digression.
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