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14 Feb 2014 17:59


Happy to see Brad is considering a start in The Commonwealth Games
ITT which would be on the Thursday after the Tour finishes.

For all his World Championships and Olympic Golds, Wiggo has no
Commonwealth Golds. He does have a total of three silvers from
the 1998 and 2002 Games, which would be a fantastic career
for most cyclists...but perhaps Mr. Wiggins would like to right
the wrongs of 2002 when the Aussies swept the medals in a
number of the cycling events at the Manchester Games.
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14 Feb 2014 20:48

Brad dreams of entering the Roubaix Veledrome having dropped Fabian and Boonen in the last 5k. He dreams of riding them off his wheel in last 5k. Sometimes though his dreams are interrupted by the nightmare realisation that Froome could have destroyed him at the 2012 Tour and that he also owes Froome a Tour of Spain !.
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14 Feb 2014 20:54

Sky bought Wiggins 2012 Tour by buying off Froome. Exactly the same as Doping in my book. Huge advantage to Sir Wigg. That edge vaporised the moment they gave him the title in 2012. It would drive me ****ing crazy knowing the truth. That's why he ****ed up the whole 2013 season. Must eat the ego maniac up.
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14 Feb 2014 23:23

arvc40 wrote:Brad dreams of entering the Roubaix Veledrome having dropped Fabian and Boonen in the last 5k. He dreams of riding them off his wheel in last 5k. Sometimes though his dreams are interrupted by the nightmare realisation that Froome could have destroyed him at the 2012 Tour and that he also owes Froome a Tour of Spain !.

No, my friend, that will never occur because Dr. Steve Peters is on
the the staff of SKY/21st CENTURY FOX/PINARELLO/RAPHA
to make sure things like that don't happen.
http://www.teamsky.com/profile/0,27291,17543_8342932,00.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-KI1D5NPJs
I also highly recommend Dr. Peter's book "The Chimp Paradox",
especially if you are a competitive athlete, my friend.
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14 Feb 2014 23:31

Is the inner chimp book even funnier than Walsh? I might have to read it then.
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14 Feb 2014 23:35

arvc40 wrote:Brad dreams of entering the Roubaix Veledrome having dropped Fabian and Boonen in the last 5k. He dreams of riding them off his wheel in last 5k. Sometimes though his dreams are interrupted by the nightmare realisation that Froome could have destroyed him at the 2012 Tour and that he also owes Froome a Tour of Spain !.


The key word here being "dream." Because that's all a top result in Roubaix will ever be for Wiggins, a dream.
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15 Feb 2014 00:37

Wiggins shouldn't be underestimated in the finale of a selected group. His tt and pursuit pedigree carries some weight. But he needs to get to the finale first.
I doubt he has experience to choose path and avoid jams while trying to get there with the best.
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15 Feb 2014 03:52

I am glad to see Wiggins have a go at Paris-Roubaix.I am sure he can ride the cobbles but there is no evidence that he can something left after 200k.
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15 Feb 2014 10:02

me i think exactly the opposite:)

i think he still is one of the peloton's biggest engines but i don't know i just can't see him staying safe from all those crashes and splits
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15 Feb 2014 16:41

jens_attacks wrote:me i think exactly the opposite:)

i think he still is one of the peloton's biggest engines but i don't know i just can't see him staying safe from all those crashes and splits


+1 you can have as big engines as you want, staying save will be the most difficult task. I don't see how sky train can nurse him all the way through the cobble section like the way they did in the mountain.

Reminding me of how he descended the wet road in the Giro. I hope this isn't going to be as bad as that. (you know.. when his nerve takes over him):D
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15 Feb 2014 18:49

lol forgot that, Wiggins the Gladiator on wet cobbles lol. I think I will just underestimate him.
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15 Feb 2014 18:52

arvc40 wrote:lol forgot that, Wiggins the Gladiator on wet cobbles lol. I think I will just underestimate him.


With regards to his descending style in Giro.
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15 Feb 2014 19:24

simo1733 wrote:I am glad to see Wiggins have a go at Paris-Roubaix.I am sure he can ride the cobbles but there is no evidence that he can something left after 200k.


To say he can be in the mix at because he "can ride cobbles" is a bit like saying Hushovd can win a gt because he "can climb".

The cobbles aren't some distraction that riders merely need to be able to know how to ride for 2 seconds to get over. They are the whole ****ing race, and its about how good can you ride them.

A 34 year old who has ridden about 2 days of cobbles in his life is not going to be able to ride the cobbles anywhere near as well as guys who have been riding them for years or even all their lives.
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The story is beginning again, just as it did 14 years ago


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15 Feb 2014 20:40

A great opportunity for British riders to test themselves
on the cobbles is the Ronde Van Calderdale Sportive:
http://www.britishcycling.org.uk/sportives/article/sp20131010-Exclusive--The-roads-of-the-Ronde-Van-Calderdale-0
Try to drop your mates on the Shibden Wall and
support the Kirklees Cycling Academy http://www.k-ca.org
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16 Feb 2014 23:52

Wiggins finished Paris Roubaix 25th in 2009 coming in with the Hammond & Hincapie chasing group iirc. It was wet too, so he knows how to ride cobbles pretty good I think guys! Obviously in 2009 his objective was Tour de France with Garmin as he was super skinny that year like in 2012 & 13.
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17 Feb 2014 01:11

Paris Roubaix is always a bit of a gamble. Realistically we could make a case for every guy who has finished in the top30 in the past years. I hope he doesn't constest it because I'm always afraid of what Sky might achieve. It's bad enough for me to see them bossing GT's around, I wouldn't like to see them winning classics, specially not Roubaix.
About Wiggins, he has the engine, he has some experience, I doubt his technical skills a bit (Giro was shocking although that wasn't his level clearly), let's see what happens anyway. I just hope they don't use Stannard as a dom. I don't like him either but he deserves at least a free role there.
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17 Feb 2014 01:25

samhocking wrote:Wiggins finished Paris Roubaix 25th in 2009 coming in with the Hammond & Hincapie chasing group iirc. It was wet too, so he knows how to ride cobbles pretty good I think guys! Obviously in 2009 his objective was Tour de France with Garmin as he was super skinny that year like in 2012 & 13.


I don't recall anything from the time that would suggest wiggins's aim was the Tour de France. Garmin's leader was CVV, wiggins had never showed he could climb, he was talking about how he would one day like to win the prologue.
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The story is beginning again, just as it did 14 years ago


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17 Feb 2014 01:32

The Hitch wrote:I don't recall anything from the time that would suggest wiggins's aim was the Tour de France. Garmin's leader was CVV, wiggins had never showed he could climb, he was talking about how he would one day like to win the prologue.

Shhhhhut up, don't let the truth deny a great fairy-tale :D
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17 Feb 2014 02:37

The Hitch wrote:I don't recall anything from the time that would suggest wiggins's aim was the Tour de France. Garmin's leader was CVV, wiggins had never showed he could climb, he was talking about how he would one day like to win the prologue.

^^^This

Wiggins also wanted to get light enough so that he could have a real shot at the TT's later on in GT's without being too exhausted from the mountains.

He was expecting to only be hanging on in the mountains until he surprised himself at the '09 Giro, after that he then thought it might be possible to help CVV early in the TdF's mountain stages. There was never talk about being a contender until CVV had a run of bad luck in the first week.
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17 Feb 2014 03:26

The Hitch wrote:I don't recall anything from the time that would suggest wiggins's aim was the Tour de France. Garmin's leader was CVV, wiggins had never showed he could climb, he was talking about how he would one day like to win the prologue.


Bingo! Plus he was 25lb heavier back then and his body was more of track rider than skinny GC time trial specialist.

Cancellara is already laughing at him now ... http://velonews.competitor.com/2014/02/news/from-pave-to-paris-gc-riders-will-be-rocking-roubaix_317266
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