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04 Jun 2014 10:52

JRanton wrote:With regards to Porte it's worth remembering that Froome had done absolutely nothing (far less than Porte '14 who had some decent results early season) before the Dauphine in 2012. As we know he was 4th in the Dauphine and then was the strongest rider at the Tour.


He was second in the Vuelta 2011 and would have won if not for bonus seconds.
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04 Jun 2014 11:56

JRanton wrote:What would the Aussies think of that though? A Brit leading their national team?


Weening will have to educate him and gently help him make the transition into the world of the Aussie. Good luck Wiggo !
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04 Jun 2014 12:19

The home fans will have Cav (perhaps in yellow)
to cheer for in the TdFrance, so Brad riding in the
Glasgow Games and, as Pricey suggests, the Tour
of Britain is fine by me.
We should ride our bikes at least 20 kilometres every day,
unless we are too busy...then we should ride at least forty.
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04 Jun 2014 13:12

I actually think that Froome might get some serious stick in Yorkshire if he manages to have Wiggins excluded from the party.
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04 Jun 2014 13:16

oldcrank wrote:The home fans will have Cav (perhaps in yellow)
to cheer for in the TdFrance, so Brad riding in the
Glasgow Games and, as Pricey suggests, the Tour
of Britain is fine by me.


The Glasgow Games and ToB as alternatives for the Tour starting on home soil sounds like a bad joke.

My message to Froome: Man up ffs.
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04 Jun 2014 13:30

armchairclimber wrote:I actually think that Froome might get some serious stick in Yorkshire if he manages to have Wiggins excluded from the party.


+ 1 don't think it will be pretty at all
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04 Jun 2014 13:40

armchairclimber wrote:I actually think that Froome might get some serious stick in Yorkshire if he manages to have Wiggins excluded from the party.


This post made me wonder about local loyalties Yorkshire fans might have, so I looked up some biographical material on the top three British riders. Interesting that none of them were born in England. Wiggins was born in Ghent, Froome in Ethiopia, and Cavendish on the Isle of Man. Gotta love cycling, even the "domestic" pelotons are international!
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04 Jun 2014 13:43

christopherrowe wrote:This post made me wonder about local loyalties Yorkshire fans might have, so I looked up some biographical material on the top three British riders. Interesting that none of them were born in England. Wiggins was born in Ghent, Froome in Ethiopia, and Cavendish on the Isle of Man. Gotta love cycling, even the "domestic" pelotons are international!


Cav and Wiggins are still British despite where they were born, last time I looked Isle of Man was part of GB? Wiggins parents were both British citizens and he has lived here most of his life. Froome is not British he just chose the British cycling system as he would have had no chance staying in Kenya.
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04 Jun 2014 13:52

Pricey_sky wrote:Cav and Wiggins are still British despite where they were born, last time I looked Isle of Man was part of GB? Wiggins parents were both British citizens and he has lived here most of his life. Froome is not British he just chose the British cycling system as he would have had no chance staying in Kenya.


Oh, I know they're British (and Kenyan). I was making a distinction between England and Great Britain in pointing out birthplaces.
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04 Jun 2014 14:42

del1962 wrote:Yeah I read that, came as a suprise to me.


JV: Wiggo dont leave us!
BW: I love you JV but the offer is mental
DB: Hi JV here is 2 million quid from Murdoch
JV: I will be in my wine cellar - love you Brad xx
BW: see you soon JV

etc
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04 Jun 2014 14:47

rainman wrote:
But selfishly I'd like it even better if for whatever reason the team leadership came into question during the race, even as soon as after the cobbles stage.
Its been a bit dull and predictable on the Tour lately, time for some rock and roll. :D


This.

(Cav and BW are a bit like brothers - so they can fall out but they still love each other, Cav is the fat kid brother obv, Froome on the other hand is just a total ar$e as far as I can tell)
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04 Jun 2014 15:40

christopherrowe wrote:This post made me wonder about local loyalties Yorkshire fans might have, so I looked up some biographical material on the top three British riders. Interesting that none of them were born in England. Wiggins was born in Ghent, Froome in Ethiopia, and Cavendish on the Isle of Man. Gotta love cycling, even the "domestic" pelotons are international!


Geraint - Welsh
Kennaugh - IOM
Rowe - Welsh
Stannard - English (Essex IIRC)
Josh Edmundson - A yorkie lad born in Leeds
Swift - Yorkie boen in Rotherham

Of 8 'active' British Riders on Sky, just 3 are English by place of birth.

Going to be fun at the Commonwealth games thats for sure. Some intrasquad rivalries to settle.
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04 Jun 2014 16:23

Catwhoorg wrote:Geraint - Welsh
Kennaugh - IOM
Rowe - Welsh
Stannard - English (Essex IIRC)
Josh Edmundson - A yorkie lad born in Leeds
Swift - Yorkie boen in Rotherham

Of 8 'active' British Riders on Sky, just 3 are English by place of birth.

Going to be fun at the Commonwealth games thats for sure. Some intrasquad rivalries to settle.


I wonder if Froome or Dowsett will take the second Team England spot in the TT.
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04 Jun 2014 16:32

I hope Dowsett.

He deserves it as the specialist.
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04 Jun 2014 16:35

Winterfold wrote:This.

(Cav and BW are a bit like brothers - so they can fall out but they still love each other, Cav is the fat kid brother obv, Froome on the other hand is just a total ar$e as far as I can tell)


From what I can make out it's the opposite as regards who is the total ar$e. Froome just doesn't need the aggro of him on the tdf team. Listen to this it may be help:

http://audioboo.fm/channel/thecyclingpodcast - SKY's dilemma

This forum has a lot of interesting stuff about it: (http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=40002&t=12970459&start=240#p18901570)
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04 Jun 2014 17:30

I've always thought that it was Wiggins who was more of an 'ar$e' out of the pair, I don't think Froome has done anything wrong really. I still believe it will be DB who decides the Tour team and I still believe Wiggins will be in that 9.

In my opinion Froome has every right to be a little annoyed after both Vuelta 11 and Tour 12 titles could have been his.
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04 Jun 2014 18:20

I think its a case of Wiggins being an **** and Froome being a whiner. It then logically follows that both don't have respect for each other.
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04 Jun 2014 21:27

christopherrowe wrote:This post made me wonder about local loyalties Yorkshire fans might have, so I looked up some biographical material on the top three British riders. Interesting that none of them were born in England. Wiggins was born in Ghent, Froome in Ethiopia, and Cavendish on the Isle of Man. Gotta love cycling, even the "domestic" pelotons are international!


It's not so much about the nationality of the riders...they are notional at best these days. It's more about the fact that, in Yorkshire, this is building up to be our party that we are paying for. If the main VIP guest is kept away by someone who looks more like a chancer by the day, then you might find that Yorkshire folk are parochial and ... er free with their opinions.
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04 Jun 2014 21:33

armchairclimber wrote: If the main VIP guest is kept away by someone who looks more like a chancer by the day, then you might find that Yorkshire folk are parochial and ... er free with their opinions.


Eh ? A chancer, plainly I've been hallucinating the last 3 years. I thought it was about winning the TDF, not whether you can swoon over Wiggins.
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05 Jun 2014 08:18

bigcog wrote:Eh ? A chancer, plainly I've been hallucinating the last 3 years. I thought it was about winning the TDF, not whether you can swoon over Wiggins.


A good portion of the crowd that turns up for Stages 1 & 2 won't follow the tour at all subsequently. Many of them won't even know who Froome is. They will all know who Wiggo is.
I'm not talking about my own feelings mind. I'd be happy for Tommy V to break clear on Stage 2 and take yellow, regardless of what goes on behind.
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