JRanton wrote:I mean, just look at it! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIRIAinJo0E
Freaking incredible finish.
Froome did great in the Vuelta 2011 but doing good in one GT doesn't mean too much in the long run. He definitely looked like he had potential and upside, but so has Rolland, Pinot, Moreno and a bunch of others and they haven't won any TdF's..
The Father of Clean Cycling, Christophe Bassons wrote:When I look at cycling today, I get the impression that history is repeating itself: riders who are supposed to be rouleurs are climbing passes at the front of the race, and those who are supposed to be climbers are riding time trials at more than 50 kilometres per hour.
The story is beginning again, just as it did 14 years ago
The Hitch wrote:Under normal circumstances froome should have been given a free role, but sky wanted to win with Wiggins.
Non Grimpeur wrote:I find it interesting that one man has so far been able to avoid any criticism in the Wiggins/Froome debate - David Walsh.
It was Walsh that stirred things up with the whole thing of Froome not being paid by Wiggins for his efforts in 2012. This was not true. According with tradition, Wiggins handed over his winnings to Sky who then shared it out between the tour team. Wiggins did not pay Froome any of his bonus paid by Sky where traditions are a bit murky.
I am reading elsewhere on the internet that Froome - to his credit - did not want to release his book before the Tour but he was overruled. Probably by Walsh who ghost wrote the book for him and probably wanted to ramp up his share of the sales.
It was also Walsh that exposed the potential problems with Jonathan Tiernan Locke despite the fact that he has not been found guilty of anything. JTL deserved to be treated with respect but Walsh wanted his scoop for The Sunday Times - who coincidentally are ultimately the same paymasters as Team Sky.
Walsh gets a lot of credit for exposing Lance Armstrong. But he was only able to do this because his employer had the money to pay the legal bills. Smarter cycling journalists and others were on to LA before him but had to keep their mouths shut.
Now Walsh is a fully paid up member of the Froome supporters club and has played no small part in the shunning of Bradley Wiggins by Sky.
noddy69 wrote:If he said nothing about JTL he would be hiding the abmnormalities. The whole idea of Walsh being there is for transparency so I think your just stirring . As for Wiggins, well he personally did not pay Froome, he has won an American race and not being involved at the real top level here. If he was he would be in the team. Sentiment needs to be left at the door, he is just not good for the team......If only cycling allowed mid season transfers I would love to see him get whipped in the tour as soon as it goes uphill.....or rains going downhill and he got flashbacks of the GIRO debacle.
roundabout wrote:Dombrowski in his first "real" race of the year.
I also bet that Wiggins would have enjoyed doing the Toussuire stage without Froome.
shades1 wrote:froome came 2nd 3.21 behind wiggins in 2012 , froome could of rode away from wiggins on nearly every mountain top finish , how long you think that 3.21 he gained in time trials would have lasted , it would have been completely gone by the time they hit grand columbier if froome did not have to babysit him . wiggins is the disgrace here not froome or sky , its not within him to help others now he is not the number one anymore . he is selfish and arrogant and not willing to work for any other rider its as simple as that . but because he is now a "sir" he will be protected with fairy stories in the press when the plain truth is that he has too bigger ego to work for froome . clearly there is dislike for each other and i can fully understand why , froome has been treated like a dog by wiggins for 3 years .
The Hitch wrote:I also dispute the idea that the second best rider on a team must be a domestique and can't have a free role. Under normal circumstances froome should have been given a free role, but sky wanted to win with Wiggins.
Cookster15 wrote: His knighthood seems to have given him a sense of entitlement. .
_nm___ wrote:wouldn't Wiggins be a good card for the upcoming Alonso team?
Franklin wrote:Well Hitch, I would say that history has a fair share of duo-Leaderships which failed in the face of the competition. If we go to the near past: We have Jan-Kloeden-Vino who tied in different compositions. We have the Shreck bro's who have been crushed by Alberto and Cadel.
Recent succes stories? We have Sastre-Shrecks and that's it*. Indeed even with Sastre he was actually the leader designated before the TdF.
There's a reason the winner almost always comes from a team with one leader. It's more effective if consider the data that we have. Be it chemistry, organisation, whatever. Two captains on a ship is just a bad idea.
So clearly it's not normal at all that the lieutenant get's a free role.
*Contador-Armstrong was not a team with two leaders. It were two mini teams who just rode against each other.
nevada wrote:Good article in ST today. It seems there has been a mutual dislike since the Vuelta. Also interesting is Wiggo hasn't been told yet that he's not going but takes it upon himself to interview on the BBC !
It's that kind errant behaviour that makes brailsford a decision any easy one.
Jones123 wrote:Brailsford rang him and told him he should focus on on the Commonwealth Games
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