Log in:  

Register

Radioshack-Leopard Trek

A place to discuss all things related to current professional road races. Here, you can also touch on the latest news relating to professional road racing. A doping discussion free forum.

29 Aug 2011 10:57

swuzzlebubble wrote:Seven GC contenders at the Tour next year?
+ Jens & Fab to fetch the bottles?


actually from a sponsor point of view this could be possible: TREK-BONTRAGER is ok for both, then LEOPARD has no main sponsor.

but who will be the boss? Nygaard? Bruyneel?
will LEVI leave?
Kloedy and Horner have already signed with the SHACK for 2012-2013, Jani I don't remember

anyway, is there really any true merging plan?
pastronef
Senior Member
 
Posts: 2,450
Joined: 19 Aug 2011 08:25
Location: Italia

29 Aug 2011 10:59

Race Radio wrote:This rumor has been going around since the Tour and is again picking up steam.
Nygaard out. Johan in. Becca not happy that a marketing guy like Nygaard cannot get a title sponser


I think I would hate both those teams even more now if that happened.
diggercuz wrote:second post ever after reading the forum for the last few years and one thing i must say, ACF94 is probably the most intelligent poster here, never biased to BMC or Cadel, and never gets worked up over anything.
User avatar auscyclefan94
Senior Member
 
Posts: 19,326
Joined: 16 Jun 2009 02:37
Location: Australia

29 Aug 2011 11:01

It's interesting because before Radioshack (the company) announced that they would continue their sponsorship I thought LEOPARD TREK might absorb some of the Radioshack riders, such as Garmin-Cervélo last year.

The article in l'Equipe talks of "financial difficulties" for LEOPARD TREK, which is also interesting because last year they proclaimed that financial backing was in place for at least four years.

Another weird thing is that LEOPARD TREK keeps signing Radioshack riders. I also can't really imagine why Nygaard would "resign" (as it says in the article) at the end of the season, unless he is fired by an unhappy Becca as someone suggested earlier.

When asked about this matter in Colorado, Fränk Schleck said he hadn't "read" (!) anything about it and Andy seemed interested to find out more. The LEOPARD TREK management has not been available for a comment yet.
piccoli equivoci senza importanza.

Visit my blog on spanish history: http://www.histoires-espagnoles.blogspot.fr
User avatar Christian
Senior Member
 
Posts: 4,919
Joined: 13 Mar 2009 15:46
Location: Sevilla

29 Aug 2011 11:14

pastronef wrote:actually from a sponsor point of view this could be possible: TREK-BONTRAGER is ok for both, then LEOPARD has no main sponsor.

but who will be the boss? Nygaard? Bruyneel?
will LEVI leave?
Kloedy and Horner have already signed with the SHACK for 2012-2013, Jani I don't remember

anyway, is there really any true merging plan?


What? I thought Kloeden signed for QuickstepLottoPharma whatever team
LaFleur
Junior Member
 
Posts: 625
Joined: 08 Jun 2011 12:59

29 Aug 2011 11:36

LaFleur wrote:What? I thought Kloeden signed for QuickstepLottoPharma whatever team


http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/9252/Brajkovic-Kloden-and-Horner-renew-with-Team-RadioShack.aspx
pastronef
Senior Member
 
Posts: 2,450
Joined: 19 Aug 2011 08:25
Location: Italia

29 Aug 2011 11:39

Leopard have released a statement saying it in not true for what ever it is worth.
Alexi Grewal to Hinault stage 14 into Superbagnéres 1986 ´You blew it, Bernie. You f*cked up.´
User avatar just some guy
Senior Member
 
Posts: 2,942
Joined: 09 Apr 2011 10:27

29 Aug 2011 11:43

just some guy wrote:Leopard have released a statement saying it in not true for what ever it is worth.


Well, in the language of the clinic...

They've denied it? Well it must be true, only guilty people deny anything! It's obviously happening and you're an imbecile if you don't wake up and realise it. Even if it doesn't happen it actually really is happening, you either aren't smart enough to see it or are a fanboy blocking it out.


In the real world, I guess it probably means it isn't true. Can't see the reasons why myself.

Edit:
I mean can't see the reasons why they would merge
patterson_hood
Junior Member
 
Posts: 230
Joined: 25 Mar 2011 09:39

29 Aug 2011 12:17

The Hitch wrote:No one is going to be Americas next darling by riding a bike, especially no foreigner and I don't quite see why he has to hook up with brunyeel to have a private jet.

Maybe he just received a good offer and didnt refuse?


I would disagree with that. I hate to say this, but look at Lance who won, what, 5 or 6 straight Sports Illustrated 'sportsman of the year' awards. That put him ahead of all other athletes in the US covering all sports. OK, he did not have to go head-to-head in a vote against Michael Jordan. But those awards say something about how the ppl in the US viewed him. He certainly was no saint in some ways. I do agree, however, that a foreigner would not be likely to be the next big thing in the US, because there are just too many other great athletes to consider. But I do think it would be awesome if a foreigner could get to that point in the US.
User avatar on3m@n@rmy
Senior Member
 
Posts: 3,996
Joined: 17 Jun 2010 12:25
Location: PNW

29 Aug 2011 12:22

I can see Johan on the phone calling someone and making some back door deal to ensure Andy winning the tour :D
User avatar masking_agent
Junior Member
 
Posts: 476
Joined: 06 Oct 2010 19:26

29 Aug 2011 12:27

masking_agent wrote:I can see Johan on the phone calling someone and making some back door deal to ensure Andy winning the tour :D


Yeah, well, the Shack is run by a bunch of survivalists. I don't see the Shack staying on as a sponsor for the long run. But I see the Shack team structure sticking. So there's prolly some truth to what you say.
User avatar on3m@n@rmy
Senior Member
 
Posts: 3,996
Joined: 17 Jun 2010 12:25
Location: PNW

29 Aug 2011 12:33

TeamSkyFans wrote:sounds like a good idea to me. Instead of having to split my hatred in two directions I can now aim it all firmly at just one team again. :D

My thoughts exactly!
User avatar ultimobici
Junior Member
 
Posts: 1,745
Joined: 17 Mar 2009 21:58
Location: London

29 Aug 2011 12:54

HL2037 wrote:So Andy wants to be Americas next darling with his own private jet. Selling his soul to Johan Bruyneel. Disgusting.


My thoughts exactly.

Edit: "My thoughts exactly!" ultimobici @ 14.33

LOL
User avatar LaFlorecita
Senior Member
 
Posts: 21,148
Joined: 15 May 2011 09:53
Location: Utrecht, The Netherlands

solution

29 Aug 2011 12:55

patterson_hood wrote:Well, in the language of the clinic...

They've denied it? Well it must be true, only guilty people deny anything! It's obviously happening and you're an imbecile if you don't wake up and realise it. Even if it doesn't happen it actually really is happening, you either aren't smart enough to see it or are a fanboy blocking it out.
In the real world, I guess it probably means it isn't true. Can't see the reasons why myself.
Edit:
I mean can't see the reasons why they would merge


"Is happening... might happen... has happened... will happen..." all your difficulties can be resolved with quantum cycling theory. At the sub atomic level riders can be in TWO places at once, or in fact NO places at once; stupidity and genius must co-exist because time cease to be relative, or exist at all. Teams, riders and sponsors will all pop in an out of existance, seemingly at random... and the act of forumits observing them will influence that which they observe, and uncertsinty will be the only constant.

In stark contrast, threads such as this at the "big picture level", appear to be collapsing on themselves, becoming infinitely dense so that no content is able to escape, and time itself ceases to exist

or that's the way it feels.
User avatar rickshaw
Junior Member
 
Posts: 479
Joined: 14 Jan 2011 15:34

29 Aug 2011 13:04

According to Wielerflits Leopard has 28 contracted riders for next year, Radioshack at least 17. That would make a merger impossible, unless they are going to cancel the contracts (I don't even know if that's possible.)

De meest prangende vraag die zich stelt, is of een fusie überhaupt wel mogelijk is. Volgens de regelgeving van de Internationale Wielerunie mag een ploeg namelijk 30 renners tellen. Bij Leopard-Trek liggen voor volgend jaar als 28 renners onder contract; RadioShack heeft al zeker 17 namen vastgelegd


Google Translate:
The most pressing question which arises is whether a merger is at all possible. According to the regulations of the International Cycling Union, a team of 30 riders which is counting. With Leopard Trek are for next year as 28 riders under contract, RadioShack has been recorded at least 17 names
User avatar LaFlorecita
Senior Member
 
Posts: 21,148
Joined: 15 May 2011 09:53
Location: Utrecht, The Netherlands

29 Aug 2011 13:22

I don't know what the contracts of some riders on LEOPARD TREK look like but I could imagine some of them might be let go at the end of the season. A guy like Martin Pedersen for example might just have been there to fill a spot until rider x is available for next season.
piccoli equivoci senza importanza.

Visit my blog on spanish history: http://www.histoires-espagnoles.blogspot.fr
User avatar Christian
Senior Member
 
Posts: 4,919
Joined: 13 Mar 2009 15:46
Location: Sevilla

29 Aug 2011 13:25

http://www.nieuwsblad.be/article/detail.aspx?articleid=B63EJO49§ionid=bc2f75e0-ec13-4abb-80d5-c51853bfc9d6

Johan says

"All I can say is that RadioShack and Nissan for the next two years and they have bijgetekend perhaps third year stay," said Johan Bruyneel. "For the rest no comment."


Not a confirmation or a denial
User avatar Race Radio
Senior Member
 
Posts: 11,338
Joined: 13 Aug 2009 14:01

29 Aug 2011 13:33

"All I can say is that RadioShack and Nissan for the next two years and they have bijgetekend perhaps third year stay," said Johan Bruyneel. "For the rest no comment."

he has not included TREK
pastronef
Senior Member
 
Posts: 2,450
Joined: 19 Aug 2011 08:25
Location: Italia

29 Aug 2011 13:54

Boy, I hope that denial's true. :o
I like some of the Shack riders, and I like the Schlecks, Voigt, Cancellara, etc, but I don't like the idea of them with Bruyneel.
User avatar jobiwan
Senior Member
 
Posts: 2,252
Joined: 28 Jul 2010 01:55
Location: Tennessee

29 Aug 2011 14:08

on3m@n@rmy wrote:Yeah, well, the Shack is run by a bunch of survivalists. I don't see the Shack staying on as a sponsor for the long run. But I see the Shack team structure sticking. So there's prolly some truth to what you say.


The Shack sponsorship will always be one of the great mysteries of modern cycling. Obviously is was born to be team-Lance and then every rider who wanted to be associated with the great man would want to ride. But the Contador saga put end to that theory. No younger or entry level pro riders want to ride for them. I’m still surprised Radioshack the company signed on for two more years.

Now if they do merge with Leopard then that is a awesome move. Kloden and Horner become worker bees for Andy then that’s a farily formidable squad.

A Tour team with Jens, Canc, Horner, Kloden, Jani , Frank all working for Andy along with some UCI “assistance” would make a Tour winning squad.

Kloden/Horner will never win the Tour off their own bats. Never.

If I was Andy I would sign on the dotted line. This is his chance. If it does happen expect his time trialing to improve by at least 2 minutes from Bruyneel's sprecial wind tunnel testing.
User avatar thehog
Senior Member
 
Posts: 16,686
Joined: 27 Jul 2009 20:00

29 Aug 2011 14:13

rickshaw wrote:"Is happening... might happen... has happened... will happen..." all your difficulties can be resolved with quantum cycling theory. At the sub atomic level riders can be in TWO places at once, or in fact NO places at once; stupidity and genius must co-exist because time cease to be relative, or exist at all. Teams, riders and sponsors will all pop in an out of existance, seemingly at random... and the act of forumits observing them will influence that which they observe, and uncertsinty will be the only constant.

In stark contrast, threads such as this at the "big picture level", appear to be collapsing on themselves, becoming infinitely dense so that no content is able to escape, and time itself ceases to exist

or that's the way it feels.


Quantum cycling theory!:D

I love it. Nicely done, rickshaw.
User avatar Amsterhammer
Senior Member
 
Posts: 3,989
Joined: 22 Jun 2009 08:29
Location: Amsterdam

PreviousNext

Return to Professional road racing

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Afrank, Billie, Brullnux, Google Adsense [Bot], Jspear, Libertine Seguros, Mr.White, much_ado, Richeypen, slosada, togo95, Tyre Byter, Vino attacks everyone, Zinoviev Letter and 72 guests

Back to top