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14 Sep 2011 11:52

profff wrote:i am very happy that frank osorio is in the team:he is 1988, but he is improving very fast in the last 2 years. imho he is a rough diamond and if he will be cut in the right way probably we will see an atypical colombian ( he is 188 cm)doing really great things in europe
he is superstrong

cote' grimpeur, i hope that nairo quintana will be confirmed and i am very unhappy that freddy montana is out of the team.he really deserves the chance to be in a better team than boyaca.

the cutting edge for coldeportes will be get invitations in races like dauphinee' , that suit very well the colombians attitude , and to get funding in the right time from colombian governement.
colombia es pasion failed because saldarriaga was not able to confirm the invitation to dauphinee' , which was very likely to happen and to the vuelta, which was very difficult to happen.
the other reason was the lack of funding and the lack of experience on the european scene.
the presence of claudio corti is a better guaranty in terms of experience and organisation,. the support of president santos (which is supposed to be backing strongly coldeportes which has 28 million euros for supporting the colombian sport development)is even more important.

let's hope cafe the colombia times are back: that will be really good for cycling


frank osorio is like the colombian indurain, he amazed me this year, he is 188 and 80 kg and climbed very well while before he was no good climber at all, only rouleur and itt. imo he has huge progress still to make in both itt and climbing and he will. he seems very well suited to european cycling like most gw shimano riders
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14 Sep 2011 11:53

Duartista wrote:I think this was because of only 1 French team making the World Tour. Prudhomme promised the Colombians an invite at the 2010 Tour de l'Avenir, but then found, with the 4 French teams, that he had 5 teams for 4 places; unsurprisingly, it was CeP that missed out.


what happened was cep was promised an invitiation to dauphinee only if cafe de colombia would again sponsor the tour de avenir, but they didn;t and were left out.
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14 Sep 2011 11:54

Timmy-loves-Rabo wrote:yeah i thought epm especially did well this year. ohwell.


epm lose only 3 riders and they aren't their strongest either, ortega, baez and colorado are staying
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14 Sep 2011 13:16

Ryo Hazuki wrote:epm lose only 3 riders and they aren't their strongest either, ortega, baez and colorado are staying


Suarez Suarez is pretty decent.

Sounds good. They could be realistically riding a GT in 2 years.


Unlikely.
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14 Sep 2011 13:23

Timmy-loves-Rabo wrote:Suarez Suarez is pretty decent.



Unlikely.


they will have a good shot at riding the giro, since corti has great relation with rcs

suarez is very good yes. but he's not their best guy. the team will stay very strong. also because epm have like 26 riders right now and it's lead by raul mesa, the legend of colombia.
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14 Sep 2011 13:28

Ryo Hazuki wrote:they will have a good shot at riding the giro, since corti has great relation with rcs

suarez is very good yes. but he's not their best guy. the team will stay very strong. also because epm have like 26 riders right now and it's lead by raul mesa, the legend of colombia.


I think one GT is probably more realistic, would be a good thing anyway.
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14 Sep 2011 13:28

Timmy-loves-Rabo wrote:I think one GT is probably more realistic, would be a good thing anyway.


that's what he said, riding a gt in 2 years
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14 Sep 2011 13:29

Ryo Hazuki wrote:that's what he said, riding a gt in 2 years


Oh I thought he said they could be riding realistically two GTs (in the one year). My bad :o
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24 Sep 2011 10:48

interview today with jairo clopatovsky he said a few names for the ct team of coldeportes that will run american circuit. biggest names: baez and montana, jaime castaneda, mauricio casas and javier gonzalez (cousin of chepe gonzalez)

surprising and disapointing these aren't going to ride in europe, but who knows. by looking at these names, both the teams are very serious and acquiring absolute top riders from all the top colombian teams. the budget will be over 5 million dollars which is unheard of for a colombian team but will also be pretty strong in europe and should be perfect to ride all the big races they can get in.

both ct and pct team are going to have 18 riders. the pct team will be directed by claudio corti and oliverio rincon and ct team by hernan buenahora and oliverio cardenas. the pct team in europe will be based from brescia in italy and coldeportes have already oppened up office there and started the paper work with uci for assigning the teams

clopatovsky specifically said this is not some one year stunt, but a long term thing, which is a matter of state, involving the president of colombia and a joint venture of many big company's. the team's basic is thus comparable with how astana and katysha are done.

http://www.biciciclismo.com/cas/site/noticias-ficha.asp?id=43577

it can't get any more exciting in my book _O_
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24 Sep 2011 11:21

Ryo Hazuki wrote:both ct and pct team are going to have 18 riders. the pct team will be directed by claudio corti and oliverio rincon and ct team by hernan buenahora and oliverio cardenas. the pct team in europe will be based from brescia in italy and coldeportes have already oppened up office there and started the paper work with uci for assigning the teams


Interesting news.
I'll ask my friends in the area to keep eyes open this coming winter (when they'll start with first team meetings).
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25 Sep 2011 02:49

Ryo Hazuki wrote:that's what he said, riding a gt in 2 years

If they get everything up and running for next season, hopefully there will be a few invites to the week long Spanish stage races like Catalunya and Pais Vasco.

With this roster I can see them making an impression. If so would a Vuelta invite be unrealistic?
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25 Sep 2011 03:05

luckyboy wrote:This is nice news. Was a bit let down that we didn't see much of the Colombians in Europe this year.

Also looks like I was a year early picking a load of Colombians for my CQ team :p


So did I. I have Suarez on my team :D

So will this be happening for 2012? Or is it in the works for next couple of years?
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25 Sep 2011 08:57

suarez will be on the european team, infantino and edward beltran have decided to stay with epm
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25 Sep 2011 10:38

I think they go for Rubiano. He knows racing in Italy and can bring early successes to the team. Thats what I would do. ;)
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25 Sep 2011 10:51

rubiano is definetely not going there.
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26 Sep 2011 21:16

quintana at movistar, uran and henao at sky, duarte at geox, betancur at a&s, sarmiento at liquigas, plus infantino and beltran staying at epm...
the coldeportes operation is having difficulties. no big columbians name signed yet
i think it will be difficult for them to have invitation at a GT's early.
it appears unlikely they will a great impact without quintana and beltran

if they are in the long run, ok, but they need to wait for people like jaramillo, k,rios b. ramirez and other young talented rider that are from 91 or younger and still developping.

pantano, still developing, osorio and suarez ( atypical colombians, no pure grimpeur ) seems the best chance they have to me, even if osorio is still a bet...
esteban chaves is very young and i have been surprised by his victory ar tour de l' avenir: i believe he still needs time (amybe two years) to became a factor in europe.

i hope that they will bring freddy montana and baes in the european team and try to sign atapuma, vey good in climbing if he learns to stand the european tempo approaching the climbs and ardila cano the young who can climb very well.

my dream is they will be able to bring back to colombia some of the big names in europe: duarte will be the best pick, because he risk to be sacrificed at the likes of menchow and cobo at geox
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27 Sep 2011 12:10

13 riders confirmed so far. strangely enough infantino and beltran, of whom I;m sure won't join. :confused:

Por ahora, han confirmado 13 nombres: Juan Pablo Suárez, Rafael Infantino, y Edward Beltrán, del EPM-UNE, Robinson Chalapud, Dalivier Ospina, Juan Pablo Forero, Jarlinson Pantano, Felipe Laverde y Víctor Hugo Peña, del Colombia es Pasión, más Carlos Julio Quintero, Wilson Marentes, Edwin Parra y Frank Osorio. Quedan cinco nombres por definir.
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27 Sep 2011 14:46

Chaves? Cano?
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27 Sep 2011 14:51

I think Chaves is too young and inexperienced to make a big move yet. Cano has had a desperately disappointing season.
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27 Sep 2011 15:43

will10 wrote:Chaves? Cano?


cano will go to geox I think. chavez will probably also sign. it's just 13 names named of which I have doubts wether it will be true
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