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04 May 2015 16:07

How are those climb profiles on climbbybike made? I am trying to make one for a climb nearby and after I select the start and finish points it ask me the minim and maxim gradients (where should I know them???" and that's it.
Actually they make a weird profile, but not like those for all the other climbs. Maybe you can see it below

http://www.climbbybike.com/preview-climb.asp?qryMountainID=18495
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Yesterday 12:52

Stage 7 Agropoli - Giffoni Valle Piana; 156,5km
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After a tricky hilly stage and right before ending the first week with 2 harder stages the sprinters get another chance, but they will have to work a little bit for it.
Only 2 categorised climbs, the first one is Timpone dei Rossi, 6,2km at 7,5%, the 2nd one is the climb to Senerchia, 6,2km at 6,2%.
Shortly before Timpone dei Rossi we have an uncategorised one, 3,3km at 4,5%.
The other uncategorised climbs are more of a false flat, they all have an average gradient under 4%, the final one of those is 4,4km at 3,4% and ends with 5km to go.
This should be a stage for the sprinters, maybe a harder final climb or a technical final descent would be nice, they'd give a late attacker a good chance, but you can't have everything and I think it's still ok to have something like this as a transitional stage.
Giffoni Valle Piana:
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Yesterday 15:42

Stage 8 Montecorvino Rovella – Amalfi; 188,8km
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The stage starts with a climb right at the beginning, 9km at 5,2%, but the first km is at 9,2%, so the start of the stage could be pretty chaotic. After a short descent we have an uncategorised climb, 5km at 4,1%, then 16km of false flat before the next climb starts, 7,2km at 7,2%.
On top of the climb we have 8km that are more of a false flat, then a gentle 14,5km long descent starts. The next 23km are rolling,then the next climb starts, 6,7km at 4,8%. The following descent isn't too hard and the following 18km are slightly rolling and alongside the stunning Amalfi Coast.
The following climb is 10,4km at 5,8% and the first part of the descent is pretty technical.
After 8km of false flat the final climb of the day starts, 13km at 4,6%, but the final descent features a few very technical parts, the final 2km are pretty straightforward and will bring the riders to the stunning city Amalfi.
This should be a stage for the breakaway, but it could be pretty chaotic. With a hard ITT on the next day we won't see too many attacks from the gc-riders, but a good descender could really get a decent gap on the final descent.
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Re: Race Design Thread

Yesterday 17:10

After a longish break, i'm back in the Netherlands.

Ronde van Nederland Stage 4b (TT) Utrecht - Utrecht (13.5km)

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Climbs:
None

Primes:
None

Combined Competion:
Climbs and Primes combined with bonus seconds at primes and the finish. (Bonus seconds for the GC and CC will be handed out at the Intermediate Split.

The Intermediate Split.
At 7km in the stage.


The second part of stage four means a 60km hop from Apeldoorn to Utrecht for a TT. In my parallel universe, this would be the first edition that would take place in 2012, as a test event for the Tour bid in 2015 (Which they subsequently got). For more information on the route go to this page on Velowire further down that page. But for information on the route here is a quote from velowire:

From Velowire
This first stage will have a completely flat race route from the start ramp in front of the Jaarbeurs Utrecht, in the Overste den Oudenlaan. On the roundabout (taken on the outside in order to keep the other side of the road free for the riders going to the finish) the riders will turn left on the Koningin Wilhelminalaan / Balijelaan. On the Vondellaan they turn right to cross the canal and get on the Briljantlaan. They'll again turn right via the Venuslaan and Rubenslaan towards Herculeslaan where they'll pass in front of the Galgenwaard stadium, of FC Utrecht.

Via the Weg tot de Wetenschap (Road to Science) they'll go towards the Utrecht Science Park and turn back west via the Archimedeslaan. After a left-right-left they'll go via the Pythagoraslaan, Waterlinieweg and Biltstraat back to the canal via the Kruisstraat to follow the Maliesingel. The riders will probably not have the time to see it but they'll come close to the Maliebaan which is more or less the very first cycling lane in The Netherlands since the footpath was opened to cyclists on Sundays right from September 1885!

The riders will continue to follow the canals to get back on the Vondellaan and they'll then go in the opposite direction on the Balijelaan and Koningin Wilhelminalaan back to the roundabout they'll this time take on the other side to turn right on the Doctor M.A. Teilegenlaan / Van Zijstweg. A last left turn brings them on the Croeselaan where the finish line will be drawn close to the Utrecht Central Station!


Start:
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Finish:
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Re: Race Design Thread

Yesterday 18:36

Ronde van Nederland Stage 5 Nijmengen - Arnhem (154.1km)

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Climbs:
Grebbeberg
Wageningscheberg
Boersberg
Seelbeckweg (last part)
Hemelscheberg
Het Dorp
Menthenberg
*Hullekesberg
*Zijpenberg
*Kluizenaarsweg
*Paasberg
*Monnikensteeg


*Climbs climbed twice (two loops of a circuit)

Primes:
Elst
Kesteren
Wageningen
Arnhem (first passage of the finish)
Arnhem (second passage of the finish)

Combined Competion:
Climbs and Primes combined with bonus seconds at primes and the finish.

Today we have a hard stage. The stage is something like the Amstel Gold Race (Although a stage willl take place there later on). However, we are in the Gelderland region of the Netherlands today for stage five. What lined up for the riders is a flat opener where the first two primes at Elst and Kesteren and where the break will be let to escape up the road. Then after skirting Rhenen we hit the first climb. This is the Grebbeberg. Then the Wageningscheberg is ridden over. This is followed by the Boersberg, the last part of the Seelbeckweg and the Hemelscheberg. In the middle of those the third prime is at Wageningen. After that and those climbs their are the climbs of the Het Dorp and the Menthenberg. A descent to the finish line follows, where the fourth and fifth prime are (the Velperplein). It is also where the to local loops start and finish. The riders will do this twice. After a bit of flat, they ride up the Hullekesberg then the Zijpenberg. These are followed by the Kluizenaarsweg, the Paasberg and the Monnikensteeg. A descent to the finish in The centre of Arnhem by the Musis Sacrum on the Veplerplein will lead to a second lap of of the local loop.

Start:
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Finish:
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This stage was made from inspiration of another race created in the same area.
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Re: Race Design Thread

Yesterday 18:58

I'm back for even more routes in the Netherlands:

Ronde van Nederland Stage 6 s-Hertogenbosch - Eindhoven (170.6km)

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Climbs:
None

Primes:
Oss
Gemert
Deurne
Valkenswaard
Oost en Middelbeers

Combined Competion:
Climbs and Primes combined with bonus seconds at primes and the finish.

Stage 6 is completely different to stage 5. Yesterday was the hilliest day so far, but today's is probably the flatest and will be the most boring. There's nothing much to say about the stage, but here we go! We start in s-hertogenbosch and head out to Oss for the first prime. The second is at Gemert which is home to a motocross national series round. The third is at Deurne. The fourth is at Valkenswaard which also has a motocross and rallycross circuit. The fifth is at Oost en Middelbeers. Then we finish in Eindhoven.

Start:
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Finish
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Yesterday 20:22

Stage 9 Torre Annunziata - Maiori ITT, 68,6km
Maybe this one is a little bit over the top, but i like it. :D
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The first week of my Giro ends with a bang, an over 68km long really hard TT that wa obviously inspired by the 2009 TT that was won by Menchov.
The UCI would have to approve such a long TT, but that shouldn't be a problem for RCS.
The stage starts in Torre Annunziata and after 6,4km the first climb starts, it's the same climb that was the last climb yesterday, 13km at 4,6% with a descent that features a few very technical parts.
After the descent there are 2km of false flat, then 2nd climb starts, Colle San Pietro, the climb looks harder on the profile, but it's 9,6km at 5,8%.
Then we have 7 rolling km on top of the climb before the descent starts, it's not too technical.
We should see huge gaps between the favourites, the climbs are very regular and real power climbs, so the pure climbers will loose a big amout of time. Being a great descender is of course another thing that will really help you in an ITT like this.
Maiori:
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Re: Race Design Thread

Today 10:26

lemon cheese cake wrote:Ronde van Nederland Stage 5 Nijmengen - Arnhem (154.1km)

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Climbs:
Grebbeberg
Wageningscheberg
Boersberg
Seelbeckweg (last part)
Hemelscheberg
Het Dorp
Menthenberg
*Hullekesberg
*Zijpenberg
*Kluizenaarsweg
*Paasberg
*Monnikensteeg


*Climbs climbed twice (two loops of a circuit)

Primes:
Elst
Kesteren
Wageningen
Arnhem (first passage of the finish)
Arnhem (second passage of the finish)

Combined Competion:
Climbs and Primes combined with bonus seconds at primes and the finish.

Today we have a hard stage. The stage is something like the Amstel Gold Race (Although a stage willl take place there later on). However, we are in the Gelderland region of the Netherlands today for stage five. What lined up for the riders is a flat opener where the first two primes at Elst and Kesteren and where the break will be let to escape up the road. Then after skirting Rhenen we hit the first climb. This is the Grebbeberg. Then the Wageningscheberg is ridden over. This is followed by the Boersberg, the last part of the Seelbeckweg and the Hemelscheberg. In the middle of those the third prime is at Wageningen. After that and those climbs their are the climbs of the Het Dorp and the Menthenberg. A descent to the finish line follows, where the fourth and fifth prime are (the Velperplein). It is also where the to local loops start and finish. The riders will do this twice. After a bit of flat, they ride up the Hullekesberg then the Zijpenberg. These are followed by the Kluizenaarsweg, the Paasberg and the Monnikensteeg. A descent to the finish in The centre of Arnhem by the Musis Sacrum on the Veplerplein will lead to a second lap of of the local loop.

Start:
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Finish:
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This stage was made from inspiration of another race created in the same area.


Hey, I regognize that finale :-)
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Re: Race Design Thread

18 minutes ago

LPP68! wrote:
lemon cheese cake wrote:Ronde van Nederland Stage 5 Nijmengen - Arnhem (154.1km)

Image

Image

Climbs:
Grebbeberg
Wageningscheberg
Boersberg
Seelbeckweg (last part)
Hemelscheberg
Het Dorp
Menthenberg
*Hullekesberg
*Zijpenberg
*Kluizenaarsweg
*Paasberg
*Monnikensteeg


*Climbs climbed twice (two loops of a circuit)

Primes:
Elst
Kesteren
Wageningen
Arnhem (first passage of the finish)
Arnhem (second passage of the finish)

Combined Competion:
Climbs and Primes combined with bonus seconds at primes and the finish.

Today we have a hard stage. The stage is something like the Amstel Gold Race (Although a stage willl take place there later on). However, we are in the Gelderland region of the Netherlands today for stage five. What lined up for the riders is a flat opener where the first two primes at Elst and Kesteren and where the break will be let to escape up the road. Then after skirting Rhenen we hit the first climb. This is the Grebbeberg. Then the Wageningscheberg is ridden over. This is followed by the Boersberg, the last part of the Seelbeckweg and the Hemelscheberg. In the middle of those the third prime is at Wageningen. After that and those climbs their are the climbs of the Het Dorp and the Menthenberg. A descent to the finish line follows, where the fourth and fifth prime are (the Velperplein). It is also where the to local loops start and finish. The riders will do this twice. After a bit of flat, they ride up the Hullekesberg then the Zijpenberg. These are followed by the Kluizenaarsweg, the Paasberg and the Monnikensteeg. A descent to the finish in The centre of Arnhem by the Musis Sacrum on the Veplerplein will lead to a second lap of of the local loop.

Start:
Image

Finish:
Image

This stage was made from inspiration of another race created in the same area.


Hey, I regognize that finale :-)

Thats what I mean when I said it gave me inspiration. :) I liked it so borrowed it without asking. Sorry if you take any offense that I used it with asking. :b
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Re: Race Design Thread

4 minutes ago

Pretty meh to go from Nijmegen to Arnhem, when you can do the reverse thing. Nijmegen actually has hills that are hard enough to force some sort of selection.
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