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Who are the best Domestiques in the peloton?

17 Mar 2009 05:01

I wanted to hear who people thought were the best worker bees in the peloton these days. I am not talking about the so-called super domestiques (genuine top GC contenders who have to given up their chances because of the depth of their team i.e almost all of Astana), but the true gregario ala Sean Yates.

Being a Canadian, I would have to throw my weight behind Michael Barry for all the hours he spends at the front of the peloton (I just wish he will finally get his chance to show his mettle in the Tour this summer!).

Outside of my national bias I would say Jens Voigt, Stuart O'grady or George Hincapie are the most impressive domestiques these days. I am also impressed by the Caisse D'Epargne guys who seem to always be dragging Valverde back to the group he just got shelled out of (i.e., Arroyo, Xandio, Pasamontes etc.)

There are lots more out there that need their recognition, but I will leave it up to you folks to throw out your support!

These are just a few
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17 Mar 2009 06:22

Adam Hansen gets my vote.

And Lance Armstrong of course... ooops he ain't the domestique yet :D
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17 Mar 2009 07:21

Tapeworm wrote:Adam Hansen gets my vote.

And Lance Armstrong of course... ooops he ain't the domestique yet :D



Doh, beat me too it.
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17 Mar 2009 07:26

From last years tour CSC had them all, Jens and Stuey on the flats and I thought Andy Schleck in the high mountains. From the past might be bias here also but Neil Stephens was a beast of a domestique.
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17 Mar 2009 07:31

Chris Horner.
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17 Mar 2009 07:33

Kurt-Asle Arvesen! CSC Saxo Bank did a great job in last year's TdF. All of them B-)
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17 Mar 2009 08:13

Chechu Rubiera. He kicks ***
For me the best moment of the Tour was in 2003 when Lance had some problems ;) on the stage to Luz Ardiden and Chechu was the man to pull him up and on one of the turns, when Lance joined him after his fall, Chechu made a very significant gesture, like "calm down Lance", that was amazing :D
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17 Mar 2009 08:20

Although he recently retired my vote would go on Wim Vansevenant. He's the ultimate domestique. He has accepted the fact that he will never be a winning racer but is a true professional at what he does and is a highly respected domestique.
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17 Mar 2009 09:13

Jens Voigt. He is superman.
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17 Mar 2009 10:22

ingsve wrote:Although he recently retired my vote would go on Wim Vansevenant. He's the ultimate domestique. He has accepted the fact that he will never be a winning racer but is a true professional at what he does and is a highly respected domestique.


three times (in a row) the Lanterne Rouge of the Tour. Truly devoted to his job.
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17 Mar 2009 11:24

I always thought one of the best was Volker Ordowski of Team Gerolsteiner. Hardly anyone outside of Germany knows his name, I don't think he ever won anything, and he was one of those whose work was usually over by the time the tv coverage started. Yet he always had a contract with the team, and for a number of years.

A real stay-in-the-background workhorse.
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17 Mar 2009 11:34

Jens Voigt is hardly a domestique or gregario in the true sense. He's won the last few Criteriums International, and he's often off the front. He and Cancellara both did their bit in last year's TDF, and they did sterling work at the front before being dropped - no-one would call Spartacus a domestique. He takes his turn like the other potential contenders in the CSC/Saxo Bank continuum. I quite like Voigt and rate him as a Super-Domestique in secret, but I think he should be considered HC for this particular discussion.

ingsve wrote:Although he recently retired my vote would go on Wim Vansevenant. He's the ultimate domestique. He has accepted the fact that he will never be a winning racer but is a true professional at what he does and is a highly respected domestique.


Completely agree. Possibly Evans most useful servant (sevenant:D) in the past three tours - he'll miss him.

Otherwise, I'd rank Charly Wegelius highly, Chris Horner and Hansen too. I remember Eddy Scheppers being one of the domestiques of note in the 80s when he was virtually all the support that Roche had in the Giro he won.

Unfortunately, I think that as someone who reads mostly anglophonic cycling press, I am always going to hear more about the English speakers, or their domestiques more than the others - could our French, Italian, Spanish, Belgian, Dutch, etc colleagues clue us in on this

Also useful for this debate, does someone know who won the most recent Gregario d'Oro for the 2008 Giro? I had heard of this before, perhaps it was run only one year - bottom of this page.
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17 Mar 2009 11:51

bikenrunnwt wrote:Outside of my national bias I would say Jens Voigt, Stuart O'grady or George Hincapie are the most impressive domestiques these days.


I don't think that you can truely call any of these men domestiques. In anything but the Tour, each of these men has many opportunities to ride as team leaders (Stuey has won two "world cup" races and Jens' palmarès are almost equally impressive - both of these men are attacking riders who stir up races). I don't have a good answer to the original question, but I do contend that none of these three men (Jens Voigt, Stuart O'grady or George Hincapie) could possibly be called domestiques.


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17 Mar 2009 12:19

Marzio Bruseghin: In Varese he did the main part of the job of closing the gap to the breakaway - he towed the peleton in all uphills and most of the flats between 100 and 200km. Superb assistant for Cunego in TdF (even if he at the performed better....)
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17 Mar 2009 12:31

Bruseghin also rode all three Tours last year, finishing in the top 10 in the Giro and Vuelta. Not bad at all.
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17 Mar 2009 12:56

Jan Boven was always the domestique at Rabobank since 1996 till 2008... always keeping Boogerd, E.Dekker and such out of the wind as long as possible
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17 Mar 2009 13:09

lampre wrote:Marzio Bruseghin: In Varese he did the main part of the job of closing the gap to the breakaway - he towed the peleton in all uphills and most of the flats between 100 and 200km. Superb assistant for Cunego in TdF (even if he at the performed better....)


Yeah totally agree about Bruseghin in Varese. Matteo Tosatto was very impressive in that race also.
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17 Mar 2009 13:11

I always used to love seeing Bram Tankink in Boonen's lead out train over the final few kilometres of a stage. He'd have a semi-grimace on ghis face and just keep pounding away. I'm not saying he's the best (that's Voght imho) but for some reason it was always a highlight for me when he came to the front.
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17 Mar 2009 13:40

Hey what about Sylwester Szmyd? he was always working for Cunego and even managed to get some high places in some major races. Too bad that he had to always work for Damiano when he (Damiano) always was in bad shape and in the end withdraw form the race. Szmyd could do a lot better if he worked for his own account (for example 8th in last year's Dauphine Libere)
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17 Mar 2009 14:11

Halvor wrote:Kurt-Asle Arvesen! CSC Saxo Bank did a great job in last year's TdF. All of them B-)


If you're an Arvesen fan you've probably already have seen this. If not, enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgFhiIK7wyk
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