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22 Oct 2011 04:53

PN suits contador more. But his presence will be interesting.
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22 Oct 2011 06:42

Does anyone know what the Dauphinie course looks like. I think Andy should do that instead of Switzerland anyways. He will have to get something to take the place of ToC as well so he can get his long peak going. Klodi would be a much better choice at Switzerland ( more ITT km )

Wondering how Goss shall plan his season. With Cam Meyer at TDU there may not even be a point going there as he shall get some publicity. However he will be in good form for the Aus Nats and will then get a win hopefully at TDU and that attention might be even better just in terms of public awareness in Australia. He will then probably sustain that till M-SR and G-W, until going to the TDF. He could also maybe do the Vuelta for the fun of it, especially if GE get WT
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22 Oct 2011 10:16

The Hitch wrote:Might even come first in cq finaly. Hes been runner up 4 years in a row.

And if Valverde owns those Spanish week races like he used to,+ adds some classics and a good gt placing, I wouldnt be surprised to see Contador finish 2nd for a 5th year running.

Because Valverde is going to come back and dominate straight away :rolleyes:
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22 Oct 2011 10:18

greenedge wrote:
Wondering how Goss shall plan his season. With Cam Meyer at TDU there may not even be a point going there as he shall get some publicity. However he will be in good form for the Aus Nats and will then get a win hopefully at TDU and that attention might be even better just in terms of public awareness in Australia. He will then probably sustain that till M-SR and G-W, until going to the TDF. He could also maybe do the Vuelta for the fun of it, especially if GE get WT


I think Goss will go to TDU. GreenEdge will want a big showing there so Goss for some stage wins and Meyer for the overall on Wilunga.
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22 Oct 2011 10:32

greenedge wrote:Does anyone know what the Dauphinie course looks like. I think Andy should do that instead of Switzerland anyways. He will have to get something to take the place of ToC as well so he can get his long peak going. Klodi would be a much better choice at Switzerland ( more ITT km )

Andy doesn't ride the Tour de Suisse to win it, it's just to get some race miles in before the Tour. His form works in mysterious ways, I don't think the Dauphiné fits into that dynamic.

auscyclefan94 wrote:I think Goss will go to TDU. GreenEdge will want a big showing there so Goss for some stage wins and Meyer for the overall on Wilunga.

I think Goss could hold on to the overall lead on Willunga, it's not the Mur de Huy or something. Meyer isn't really a good enough climber to create a race winning gap.
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22 Oct 2011 10:42

15-20 seconds + bonus and then Goss would have to do very well in sprint stages
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22 Oct 2011 10:57

roundabout wrote:15-20 seconds + bonus and then Goss would have to do very well in sprint stages


In saying that, if a good climber doesn't lose time and goes to Down Under with decent form they could really take it away from the sprinters.
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22 Oct 2011 11:00

theyoungest wrote:Andy doesn't ride the Tour de Suisse to win it, it's just to get some race miles in before the Tour. His form works in mysterious ways, I don't think the Dauphiné fits into that dynamic.




I always assumed Schlecks do the TDS because of their friendship with Cancellara.
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The story is beginning again, just as it did 14 years ago


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22 Oct 2011 11:00

roundabout wrote:15-20 seconds + bonus and then Goss would have to do very well in sprint stages

Yes, if there's a break like the Evans-Sanchez-Valverde one last year, Goss can forget it.

The Hitch wrote:I always assumed Schlecks do the TDS because of their friendship with Cancellara.

Maybe, but most importantly it's one long training ride two weeks before the Tour.
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22 Oct 2011 11:07

theyoungest wrote:
Maybe, but most importantly it's one long training ride two weeks before the Tour.


I wonder how The Hog feels about that.
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22 Oct 2011 11:08

The TDU generates a lot of debate all things considered.
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22 Oct 2011 11:12

18-Valve. (pithy) wrote:I wonder how The Hog feels about that.

Well, since his own riders use the very same race as preparation (even Armstrong did, last year) I think he agrees.
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22 Oct 2011 11:15

theyoungest wrote:Yes, if there's a break like the Evans-Sanchez-Valverde one last year, Goss can forget it.


Dont forget Sagan.

Maybe, but most importantly it's one long training ride two weeks before the Tour.


Obviously I meant, why they do TDS instead of Dauphine.
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The story is beginning again, just as it did 14 years ago


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22 Oct 2011 11:29

The Hitch wrote:Dont forget Sagan.



Obviously I meant, why they do TDS instead of Dauphine.


Don't forget Hagen :p
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22 Oct 2011 11:30

Gloin22 wrote:Don't forget Hagen :p

Hagen wasn't in that break...
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22 Oct 2011 14:58

theyoungest wrote:Well, since his own riders use the very same race as preparation (even Armstrong did, last year) I think he agrees.


Armstrong changed his schedule last year.

Maybe because he lacked racing miles, decided that he didn't want to face Contador before the Tour, or for Clinic reasons. Who knows. In any case, it was a change of plans.
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22 Oct 2011 15:00

theyoungest wrote:Hagen wasn't in that break...


Thought Hitch was mentioning Sagan as one of the favourites for TDU... so I metnioned Hagen as well :o
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22 Oct 2011 15:24

JRanton wrote:According to a Guardian cycling journalist, Geraint Thomas has confirmed he will ride the Giro and not the Tour next year before concentrating on the team pursuit in London.

Velo Nation has an article which implies that Froome will ride the Tour in support of Wiggins and will then lead the team at the Vuelta.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/cycling/15208779.stm

Geraint's programme hasn't been decided yet, but he's talking about missing the classics :confused: as well as the tour to concentrate on the track for the olympics. He seems to be planning to ride the Vuelta.
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22 Oct 2011 15:26

Tank Engine wrote:http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/cycling/15208779.stm

Geraint's programme hasn't been decided yet, but he's talking about missing the classics :confused: as well as the tour to concentrate on the track for the olympics. He seems to be planning to ride the Vuelta.


That kid can't combine anything huh?

Why not focus on the Olympic road race instead and ride the classics and the Tour?
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22 Oct 2011 16:21

18-Valve. (pithy) wrote:Armstrong changed his schedule last year.

No sh.t, Sherlock. That's why I said "even Armstrong".

El Pistolero wrote:That kid can't combine anything huh?

Why not focus on the Olympic road race instead and ride the classics and the Tour?

Because he can't win a medal in the road race?
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