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WC Ponferrada 2014. Altimetry

16 Nov 2011 06:41

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16 Nov 2011 06:45

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16 Nov 2011 08:00

the itt will only be 38 km long?? this one will be very hard
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16 Nov 2011 08:08

Contador becoming world champion in the time trial then :p
Ryo Hazuki wrote:horrible. boonen just the same guy as years before and this course is too hard for him. that's why he rode like a coward there were at least 3 guys stronger than boonen today and none of them won: sagan, ballan, pozzato


The Hitch wrote:Goss will woop boonens candy a[color="Black"]ss[/color] in a sprint he cares about, any day of the week
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16 Nov 2011 09:03

operation "contador itt and road champion in the same year" has officialy started
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16 Nov 2011 09:10

Yeah, shameless hometown favouritism. But it's a nice challenge for Tony M.
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16 Nov 2011 09:14

I don't perceive the courses like this, it's ridiculous to use such a climb in the Worlds' TT. As for a RR it would be good to use this climb if only it won't be a mtf
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16 Nov 2011 09:16

theyoungest wrote:Yeah, shameless hometown favouritism. But it's a nice challenge for Tony M.


Yeah, because Cancellara and Tony Martin don't get enough courses thrown in their favour right? :)

It's about time for a non-flat tt, now we at least won't know who will win unlike other years.
Ryo Hazuki wrote:horrible. boonen just the same guy as years before and this course is too hard for him. that's why he rode like a coward there were at least 3 guys stronger than boonen today and none of them won: sagan, ballan, pozzato


The Hitch wrote:Goss will woop boonens candy a[color="Black"]ss[/color] in a sprint he cares about, any day of the week
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16 Nov 2011 09:21

El Pistolero wrote:Yeah, because Cancellara and Tony Martin don't get enough courses thrown in their favour right? :)

It's about time for a non-flat tt, now we at least won't know who will win unlike other years.


that

also such hard parcours for the worlds will completely change the GT scenario for the entire year, i mean who in his right mind will peak for the tour and then go onto vacation when the worlds suit them so well?

maybe even andy tries to peak again after july!!! i mean can you even imagine that?
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16 Nov 2011 09:25

theyoungest wrote:Yeah, shameless hometown favouritism. But it's a nice challenge for Tony M.


I think is gonna be a really nice ITT, with 30 Km really flat and, no many bents and after that this climb (firt part of Morredero Climb) to compesate it.

Nobody is going to know the podium in avance like this year
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16 Nov 2011 10:06

not really, it will still be a pretty predictable podium
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16 Nov 2011 10:08

By the way, the road race course is pretty mediocre
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16 Nov 2011 10:18

theyoungest wrote:Yeah, shameless hometown favouritism. But it's a nice challenge for Tony M.


Disagree, an isolated year a climbing time trial could be interesting. Tony Martin and Cancellara making time before the climb against Contador...:cool: Even Wiggo if he isn't to old.
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16 Nov 2011 10:40

El Pistolero wrote:Yeah, because Cancellara and Tony Martin don't get enough courses thrown in their favour right? :)

It's about time for a non-flat tt, now we at least won't know who will win unlike other years.

Of course we know who will win it, how can Contador possibly lose this? I think it's obvious that this course was created with him in mind: not too long, and very hard. I like this profile, but come on... if these were the times of Miguel Indurain we'd have seen a very long, flat TT in his home Worlds.

I was speaking about hometown favouritism, how could this have happened to Tony Martin :confused: Cancellara won his home Worlds, but the course wasn't really tailor made for him... he was just the best time trialist in the world at that time.
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16 Nov 2011 10:43

theyoungest wrote:Of course we know who will win it, how can Contador possibly lose this? I think it's obvious that this course was created with him in mind: not too long, and very hard.

I was speaking about hometown favouritism, how could this have happened to Tony Martin :confused: Cancellara won his home Worlds, but the course wasn't really tailor made for him... he was just the best time trialist in the world at that time.


- The race takes place in 2014. Who knows, Contador might already suck then.

- The race takes place in 2014. Perhaps a new climber will surpass even Contador.

- Cancellara has proven to also be good in hilly time trials.

- Same goes for Tony Martin

- It would be good to see a different winner than these 2 for once.

- I'm glad it's not a flat or slightly hilly time trial for once.

- If the sprinters deserve a flat WC like so many people agreed, then why don't the climbers deserve a mountainous time trial?

And every year it's a time trial that suits Cancellara and Martin the best. Let someone else have a shot :) Yes, I know you were speaking about hometown favoritism, I was speaking about favoritism in general which is far worse. I can't even remember the last time there was a WC time trial with a mountain in it.
Ryo Hazuki wrote:horrible. boonen just the same guy as years before and this course is too hard for him. that's why he rode like a coward there were at least 3 guys stronger than boonen today and none of them won: sagan, ballan, pozzato


The Hitch wrote:Goss will woop boonens candy a[color="Black"]ss[/color] in a sprint he cares about, any day of the week
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16 Nov 2011 10:48

El Pistolero wrote:- The race takes place in 2014. Who knows, Contador might already suck then.

- The race takes place in 2014. Perhaps a new climber will surpass even Contador.

Yeah, in two years I'm sure we'll see a new best climber ever appear suddenly, out of nowhere.

- Cancellara has proven to also be good in hilly time trials.

If there's a descent to make up for time lost in the climb, yes. But there's no way he'll win this.

- Same goes for Tony Martin

Tony M. could possibly, maybe be a minor threat to Contador. But he's guaranteed to lose at least a minute on that climb alone.
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16 Nov 2011 10:50

theyoungest wrote:Yeah, in two years I'm sure we'll see a new best climber ever appear suddenly, out of nowhere.


If there's a descent to make up for time lost in the climb, yes. But there's no way he'll win this.


Tony M. could possibly, maybe be a minor threat to Contador. But he's guaranteed to lose at least a minute on that climb alone.


Robert Gesink could come out of retirement for that race and dominate. The Dutch would finally be able to do something in a WC.
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16 Nov 2011 10:51

El Pistolero wrote:
- If the sprinters deserve a flat WC like so many people agreed, then why don't the climbers deserve a mountainous time trial?



the climbers are climbers and it is not necessary for them to wear a rainbow jersey in every tt for the next year. I can agree with your statement only in the case of the RR
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16 Nov 2011 10:51

theyoungest wrote:Yeah, in two years I'm sure we'll see a new best climber ever appear suddenly, out of nowhere.




Yeah, that never happens in cycling huh. By the way it's 3 years instead of 2.
Ryo Hazuki wrote:horrible. boonen just the same guy as years before and this course is too hard for him. that's why he rode like a coward there were at least 3 guys stronger than boonen today and none of them won: sagan, ballan, pozzato


The Hitch wrote:Goss will woop boonens candy a[color="Black"]ss[/color] in a sprint he cares about, any day of the week
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16 Nov 2011 10:53

Kvinto wrote:the climbers are climbers and it is not necessary for them to wear a rainbow jersey in every tt for the next year. I can agree with your statement only in the case of the RR


The sprinters are sprinters and it is not necessary for them to wear a rainbow jersey in respected one day races.

There's still a whole lot of flat before the climb in the time trial, pretty balanced. I don't see the difference with with the time trial and road race. Are you saying someone like Contador wouldn't honor the rainbow jersey in all time trials he'd start? Contador is also a time trial specialist. Ever heard of Wiggins by the way? Heard he'll be favorite for this as well and came second this year on a flat boring time trial course. It really was an uninspired route, though still an exciting race because of Cancellara's downfall.
Ryo Hazuki wrote:horrible. boonen just the same guy as years before and this course is too hard for him. that's why he rode like a coward there were at least 3 guys stronger than boonen today and none of them won: sagan, ballan, pozzato


The Hitch wrote:Goss will woop boonens candy a[color="Black"]ss[/color] in a sprint he cares about, any day of the week
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