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17 Nov 2011 23:54

In the Doping in XC Skiing thread, there was some interest in starting a thread to discuss world cup Nordic & biathlon. It seems to me this is a good place.

The World Cup starts this weekend in Norway? It got moved from Beito, but I still think is in Norway.

My predictions are the Russians; Sedov, MV, & Legkov
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18 Nov 2011 00:37

Probably belongs in the "other" General forum (the Café). That's where the Nordic/Biathlon worlds thread was; this is referring to "Road cycling: General".

I will probably post a lot in here, predominantly about biathlon. Lord knows I love some biathlon.
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18 Nov 2011 01:04

Yes, Saturday it is for cross-country.

It's in Sjusjoen close to Lillehammer I think. Snow cannons at full blast to get it ready.

For the biathlon fans there will be some familiar names racing

Tora Berger in the women's race and Hafsas, Svendsen, Boe and Lars Berger in the men's

Also it seems Landertinger is planning to race next week in Kuusamo in the 10 freestyle but he'll need to do the classic sprint first. Will be interesting to see how well he could handle it.
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18 Nov 2011 01:19

Is there a topic for Alpine skiing and ski-jumping? That's where my interest lies.
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18 Nov 2011 01:53

The Cafe works for me.

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18 Nov 2011 02:11

Libertine Seguros wrote:Probably belongs in the "other" General forum (the Café). That's where the Nordic/Biathlon worlds thread was; this is referring to "Road cycling: General".

I will probably post a lot in here, predominantly about biathlon. Lord knows I love some biathlon.


I love watching Leif Nordgren race; he's a young American skier who recently skied in the World Biathlon Champs. I just so happened to go to high school with him, and skied on the same team with him. He was three years older than me, but I started skiing with him when I was in 7th grade. Its so great to see him tearing it up on the World Cup circuit!
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18 Nov 2011 14:55

roundabout wrote:Yes, Saturday it is for cross-country.

It's in Sjusjoen close to Lillehammer I think. Snow cannons at full blast to get it ready.

For the biathlon fans there will be some familiar names racing

Tora Berger in the women's race and Hafsas, Svendsen, Boe and Lars Berger in the men's

Also it seems Landertinger is planning to race next week in Kuusamo in the 10 freestyle but he'll need to do the classic sprint first. Will be interesting to see how well he could handle it.


Sjusjöen is just 20 km from Beitostölen, amazing how such a short distance can have a huge impact on the conditions. They have amazing trails there, I think the trails cover something near to 400km.

Off-topic but I've got to say that few things are more unattractive than watching Tora Berger ski.

After his win in 2009, Hafsås has been nowhere to be seen. What happened to him?

Manificat to win the men's race and Björgen to win women's. Look out for Saarinen and Jauhojärvi, they both have improved their skating. Not that they would podium but top-10 could be in their sights, which would be a big improvement from previous years.

Concerning biathletes doing XC races, I would like too Martin Fourcade have a go. He's the one who could really give the specialists a hard time.
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18 Nov 2011 23:59

Great thread. I can't wait for the start of the Biathlon, Ski Jumping and Nordic Combined season, my 3 favorite disciplines.
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19 Nov 2011 06:12

Okay, let's get it on then!

Today's races are 10k freestyle for the ladies and 15k for the men. I think the usual suspects will be featuring well in both races, but expect to see some surprise performers and underperformers too. It is early season after all.
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19 Nov 2011 07:02

meat puppet wrote:Okay, let's get it on then!

Today's races are 10k freestyle for the ladies and 15k for the men. I think the usual suspects will be featuring well in both races, but expect to see some surprise performers and underperformers too. It is early season after all.


I'm calling
1. Cologna
2. Hellner
3. Vylegzahin (I can't spell Russian names)
4. Magnificant
5. Sunbry
6. Legkov
7. Matti Heikken
8. Berger
9. Harvey
10. Pillar
15. Northug
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19 Nov 2011 07:08

http://www.fiscrosscountry.com/news/here-are-racing-suits-for-the-upcoming-winter,2554.html

Could the Swedish suits get any more boring? Also not sure how I feel about the German ones. Hopefully Norways are a bit different than last year.
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19 Nov 2011 07:46

I too think Legkov and Vylegzhanin will be up there. Espescially Legkov had quite an early season last year and I expect him to repeat it. Cologna and Hellner too. Alex Harvey to do well too.

Björgen, JK, TJ and Kalla will probably be the top dogs in ladies and Björgen likely for the win. In the next category there will be the likes of Saarinen... and it'll be interesting to see if Lähteenmäki will do well.
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19 Nov 2011 09:52

gustienordic wrote:http://www.fiscrosscountry.com/news/here-are-racing-suits-for-the-upcoming-winter,2554.html

Could the Swedish suits get any more boring? Also not sure how I feel about the German ones. Hopefully Norways are a bit different than last year.


Gah, not sure about the gold on Germany's. The gold and red should swap places. Sweden = seriously dull. I like France's dedication to not looking at all French, and the Italian kit from last year was waaaaaay better.
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19 Nov 2011 11:12

Berger doing herself no harm at all with her showing. Pretty good. Marit Bjørgen has hit the ground running, and running very fast indeed. Kowalczyk 17 seconds back after 2,5km :eek:
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19 Nov 2011 11:25

Justyna is in horrible form.

I know it's essentially pre-season, a bit like being in great form at the TDU, but Tora Berger's taking some pretty big scalps here - Haag, Steira, Lähteenmäki, and she could feasibly outpace Kowalczyk here.

Looks like Skøfterud has a very good chance of adding to her collection of 2nd places. Make that 3rd as Kalla has just outdone her. Marit Bjørgen has almost caught Therese Johaug (!!!).

Kowalczyk is over a minute off the pace; Bjørgen was more than 20 seconds ahead of anybody. Insane.

Tora Berger has indeed beaten Justyna Kowalczyk. And Therese Johaug too.

With Katrin Zeller the top German in 30th place (most of them cramping the area from Nicole Fessel in 45th to Stefanie Böhler in 57th), and Tora Berger finishing 4th - we can probably say that the German love of biathlon really, really hurts their XC skiing, for the women at least, as they have at least a couple of women faster than Berger.
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19 Nov 2011 12:32

Bejasus. Norwegian nationals in women's race. Björgen super dominant. Insane how she can be always in form.

Yeah, early season. If I had to guess, Saarinen, Kowalczyk and... hell, all the others, have probably done tough training blocks just recently and have not tapered too much.

And yes, a very fine performance from Tora berger indeed.
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19 Nov 2011 14:44

I'm impressed with Randall's race, top ten in a distance race? Thats not very common for her.

And seriously? Johan Olson winning by 30 seconds? That seems a little ridiculous!
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19 Nov 2011 14:54

It does feel ridiculous, but it's the equivalent of the TDU, so it remains to be seen whether Olsson has made a huge and surprising step up or if this is a one-off born of people like Cologna not reaching peak power yet.
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19 Nov 2011 21:10

4 x 10 & 4 x 5 tomorrow! should be an exciting race.
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19 Nov 2011 21:32

gustienordic wrote:And seriously? Johan Olson winning by 30 seconds? That seems a little ridiculous!


Olsson has been taking it easy the last couple of week because of an injury and is likely sort of peaked while other has been training hard and still feeling the effect of that very training. I wouldn't think so much about it. Especially since he has said that his body can only handle one or two races a week, hence he will be skipping the TdS.
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