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25 Jan 2017 02:52

42x16ss wrote:
barmaher wrote:The parcours for this race is pretty lame.

It's January. The WT riders don't need to be hammering through mountain ranges yet.


The stage 5. finish is at 2565m. (start at 632m) Just FYI

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25 Jan 2017 04:52

Yeah it's a nice climb, but the stage is all flat leading up (from memory) and the overall gradient is fairly shallow.

It's not like a 3 x HC pass Giro special :D
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25 Jan 2017 05:40

42x16ss wrote:Yeah it's a nice climb, but the stage is all flat leading up (from memory) and the overall gradient is fairly shallow.

It's not like a 3 x HC pass Giro special :D


The stage profile is in Jancouvers post, it's a fairly shallow MTF but I guess finishing at that altitude at this time of year will play it's part. Falls Creek looks like a similar MTF just without the altitude.
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25 Jan 2017 07:55

Jancouver wrote:Tomorrow 12km ITT

all stage profiles and maps are here http://www.vueltaasanjuan.org/recorrido


Looks like a perfect one for young riders like Ganna, Reis and Cavagna.
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25 Jan 2017 09:45

42x16ss wrote:
barmaher wrote:The parcours for this race is pretty lame.

It's January. The WT riders don't need to be hammering through mountain ranges yet.


I am well aware of that. You don't need tough mountain-top finishes to make a good parcours.
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25 Jan 2017 10:07

Hmmm? The peloton was pretty small last stage. Sepúlveda for instance lost 1:07, does anybody know why?
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25 Jan 2017 11:22

Maaaaaaaarten wrote:Hmmm? The peloton was pretty small last stage. Sepúlveda for instance lost 1:07, does anybody know why?


There were some crashes near the finish, i dont know exactly who was involved and who were held up by it though, but guess Sepulveda was one of them.
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25 Jan 2017 12:08

I don't know a lot about the young Bolivians that are riding for Equipo Bolivia, how good are those guys?
Piter Campero could surprise people, form what I've heard he's a pretty good rider.
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25 Jan 2017 15:14

Not much competition in the sprints - Few riders can stay with the Etix lead out.
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25 Jan 2017 16:37

Mayomaniac wrote:I don't know a lot about the young Bolivians that are riding for Equipo Bolivia, how good are those guys?
Piter Campero could surprise people, form what I've heard he's a pretty good rider.


I like that guy.

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25 Jan 2017 17:42

In the old Tour de San Luis there were plenty of nice climbs, including a couple of 1st Cat climbs and one HC. San Juan also has a few of other nice roads but for some reason they decided not to include them in this race.

42x16ss wrote:
barmaher wrote:The parcours for this race is pretty lame.

It's January. The WT riders don't need to be hammering through mountain ranges yet.
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25 Jan 2017 18:33

barmaher wrote:
42x16ss wrote:
barmaher wrote:The parcours for this race is pretty lame.

It's January. The WT riders don't need to be hammering through mountain ranges yet.


I am well aware of that. You don't need tough mountain-top finishes to make a good parcours.


Agree!
Having 5 completely flat stages and one flat ITT balanced out by only one mountain stage is pretty bad. Im not really an expert en geography in Argentina, but I assume there were plenty of opportunities to get some tougher finishes going on a couple of stages considering the terrain they utilise on stage 5.
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25 Jan 2017 20:25

Valv.Piti wrote:
barmaher wrote:
42x16ss wrote:
barmaher wrote:The parcours for this race is pretty lame.

It's January. The WT riders don't need to be hammering through mountain ranges yet.


I am well aware of that. You don't need tough mountain-top finishes to make a good parcours.


Agree!
Having 5 completely flat stages and one flat ITT balanced out by only one mountain stage is pretty bad. Im not really an expert en geography in Argentina, but I assume there were plenty of opportunities to get some tougher finishes going on a couple of stages considering the terrain they utilise on stage 5.


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the problem is the only city in the province with enough hotel rooms is San Juan
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25 Jan 2017 20:45

Those gradients make challenge colorado climbs look like zoncolan
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25 Jan 2017 22:38

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First win for Bahrain-Merida, neo-pro Cavagna very impressive
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26 Jan 2017 07:05

People seem to forget that the Vuelta a San Juan has a lot of tradition; it's the biggest and most important race in Argentina (far more important for the locals then San Luis has ever been). The stages themselves are repeated year after year and pay tribute to local race classics (e.g. the Doble Difunta Correa, whose course is more or less identical with stage 6), just because it's now UCI-sanctioned they don't have to and shouldn't change the character of the race. And by the way, there are races far more unbalanced in Argentina. There were editions of the Doble Bragado where Laureano Rosas won 9 out of 10 stages. :D
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26 Jan 2017 10:58

Apparently the early starters had to deal with strong wind, later on the wind slowed down, so those who started later had favourable conditions.
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26 Jan 2017 22:29

Finally, at last, they've made the profiles for the nationals in Bogotá next month. The elites will do 15 laps of the circuit, making it around 240 kilometers in total. The second pic is the time trial.

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26 Jan 2017 22:41

Did anyone else see that guy from Italy just ride into the fields, how did he manage that? The only thing I can tthink of is that his stem must have broken.
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26 Jan 2017 22:41

Gaviria beat Viviani again.
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