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Which one is the best race: Tirreno-Adriatico or Paris Nice?

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Which one is the best race?

Tirreno-Adriatico
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57%
Paris-Nice
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Total votes : 188

Which one is the best race: Tirreno-Adriatico or Paris Nice?

05 Mar 2012 18:39

Considering the level of participants from the past two years, I think Tirreno-Adriatico has really become the best of the two.
What's your opinion?
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05 Mar 2012 18:40

lukinox wrote:Considering the level of participants from the past two years, I think Tirreno-Adriatico has really become the best of the two.
What's your opinion?


I think Giro is the best race
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05 Mar 2012 18:49

Tirreno, allways some cool uphill finishes
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05 Mar 2012 18:51

Fetisoff wrote:I think Giro is the best race


Thanks Fetisoff for trying to veer my first ever thread off topic.
(I agree with you that the Giro is great, by the way)
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05 Mar 2012 18:53

lukinox wrote:Thanks Fetisoff for trying to veer my first ever thread off topic.
(I agree with you that the Giro is great, by the way)


Nah, I was just trying for you to insert a poll into this thread, which I see you've now done.
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05 Mar 2012 18:58

Paris-Nice, reason being that it's the first.
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05 Mar 2012 19:04

With poop parcourses like this and last year's P-N, Tirreno by far.
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05 Mar 2012 19:37

tirreno but that's because i love more the italian races
paris-nice is of course awesome too also this year.
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05 Mar 2012 19:51

Honestly i don't like both, that's why i would prefer the race with harder climbs. A couple of years ago PN included stump of Mont Ventoux. As I see, Tirreno has only Monte Lupone, right?
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05 Mar 2012 19:53

After stage 2 of P-N, I think the Frogs will hold the upper hand this year.
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05 Mar 2012 19:56

Dazed and Confused wrote:After stage 2 of P-N, I think the Frogs will hold the upper hand this year.


That's the one reason I haven't voted in the poll yet. I mean last year T-A was obviously a better race, this year's parcours looks great, especially stage 4, however after today's P-N stage, I might have even voted for it. So I will wait to vote instead.
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05 Mar 2012 19:57

airstream wrote:Honestly i don't like both, that's why i would prefer the race with harder climbs. A couple of years ago PN included stump of Mont Ventoux. As I see, Tirreno has only Monte Lupone, right?


Is there any one-week race you like then?
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05 Mar 2012 19:58

airstream wrote:Honestly i don't like both, that's why i would prefer the race with harder climbs. A couple of years ago PN included stump of Mont Ventoux. As I see, Tirreno has only Monte Lupone, right?
For some reason, I think you also like LBL :D
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05 Mar 2012 20:07

Fetisoff wrote:Is there any one-week race you like then?


no, but i have a slight indulgence to dauphine. or rather, i dont like them very much.
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05 Mar 2012 20:12

Depends on the course.

Not going to vote on this one. Both are good races and it looks like T-A will be better this year again, but next year P-N might be better again.
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05 Mar 2012 20:31

This year, on paper (read, the route) Tirreno is the better race, imo. But P-N just started and the stage which was bound to be the dullest turned out to be pretty cool, so hard to know. And participation wise there's not much difference, so I won't vote just yet.

If we're talking about prestige, P-N > T-A, in my opinion.
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05 Mar 2012 20:38

airstream wrote:Honestly i don't like both, that's why i would prefer the race with harder climbs. A couple of years ago PN included stump of Mont Ventoux. As I see, Tirreno has only Monte Lupone, right?

Passo Lanciano is no joke actually. Saying that TA has only Montelupone is a bit of disrespect. The focus on short and steep climb of TA is a recent thing anyway, and it's not by any means a rule; for istance it included Monte Bondone once (many years ago)
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05 Mar 2012 20:42

Havetts wrote:With poop parcourses like this and last year's P-N, Tirreno by far.

This. Paris-Nice had been in a run of great races, then 2011 killed all the momentum it had with a godawful parcours.
airstream wrote:Honestly i don't like both, that's why i would prefer the race with harder climbs. A couple of years ago PN included stump of Mont Ventoux. As I see, Tirreno has only Monte Lupone, right?

No Montelupone this year. But there are some really nasty rises into Chieti, Macerata etc. that they can - and do - include, not just Montelupone (though I admit that is the greatest of them). Lots of short, steep ramps in Tirreno. Lots of them.
Dazed and Confused wrote:After stage 2 of P-N, I think the Frogs will hold the upper hand this year.

Not so fast though; last year, the early stages of Paris-Nice were good too, with Voeckler and de Gendt going haywire. Then the "hilly" stages disappointed and the TT settled everything.
Cogombre wrote:This year, on paper (read, the route) Tirreno is the better race, imo. But P-N just started and the stage which was bound to be the dullest turned out to be pretty cool, so hard to know. And participation wise there's not much difference, so I won't vote just yet.

If we're talking about prestige, P-N > T-A, in my opinion.

Prestige-wise, I'd agree. But at the moment, Paris-Nice has lost its momentum for putting on good races after last year's snoozer, while Tirreno-Adriatico is in a strong run; the days of Cancellara and Freire's GC wins are forgotten, and the last 3 editions have been mighty entertaining.
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05 Mar 2012 20:50

Not so fast though; last year, the early stages of Paris-Nice were good too, with Voeckler and de Gendt going haywire. Then the "hilly" stages disappointed and the TT settled everything.

right, but the race today completely open up business. Very different from last year. Of course things could turn out to be a controlled event from now on. Hoping Valverde/Movistar will keep the pressure on and that other "losers" will do something in the next few stages.
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05 Mar 2012 20:52

P-N from an armchair viewers perspective purely because of the quality of TV coverage.

Italian stuff is always shaky and grainy and never in HD.
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