Which one is the best race: Tirreno-Adriatico or Paris Nice?

[Echoes]

How is Montelupone that different from Montée Laurent Jalabert? Sure, the latter is a bit longer, but how is Montelupone a BAD hill?

The Côte de la Croix-Neuve (let's call it by its real name) is a bit longer and the maximum gradient is 12%.

I'm all for hard climbs but at a certain gradient, when the riders almost have to dismount, a hill becomes more of a circus game than true cycling.

Climbs like Angliru, Koppenberg, Montelupone, Zoncolan, etc. do not add much to the races, I think.

[Red Rick]

The Côte de la Croix-Neuve (let's call it by its real name) is a bit longer and the maximum gradient is 12%.

I'm all for hard climbs but at a certain gradient, when the riders almost have to dismount, a hill becomes more of a circus game than true cycling.

Climbs like Angliru, Koppenberg, Montelupone, Zoncolan, etc. do not add much to the races, I think.

I don't think so, it still about the rider's quality if he makes it without dismounting or not, and the guys that have to dismount are nowhere anyway because they would've been dropped brutally if it was a bit less steep.

However, I do not think that we should be trying to reach 30% grades or race on stuff like scannupia.

[Red Rick]

Form an opinion form one edition?
P-N certainly didn't suck today.
Pretty impressive for a flat stage.

I can't say anything from the PN or TA prior to 2009 cause I didn't follow them at that moment. THIS YEAR, im pretty sure TA will be better, because PN is nothing more than a prologue, two hill sprints, a wall and col d'eze tt. There's no serious climbing. I do not say it's going to be an uninteresting race. Last year was much worse

[greenedge]

Cadel thinks so too

Cadel summons forth the wrath of the CAS to hand Contador a doping ban. This power can only be used once.

I will vote after T-A but so far P-N looks great.

[Mellow Velo]

Well, they really tore it up at Tirreno in today's 230km epic.

[Fetisoff]

OK, voting Tirreno. "Queen" stage of P-N was disappointing

[roundabout]

At the same time it wasn't a vintage a Paris-Nice stage today.

[roundabout]

OK, voting Tirreno. "Queen" stage of P-N was disappointing

Both races aren't over. Why vote now, even of Paris-Nice seems to be underwhelming yet again?

[Fetisoff]

Both races aren't over. Why vote now, even of Paris-Nice seems to be underwhelming yet again?

I dunno really... lol... Just kinda felt like it. Probably due to being disappointed by the P-N stage. I doubt there's gonna be too much action in the road stages coming, TT is... well a TT.

[roundabout]

Sanchez will go on the attack on Saturday's stage and gain 5 minutes.

[Fetisoff]

Sanchez will go on the attack on Saturday's stage and gain 5 minutes.

And the Pope will win time-trial by 3 minutes.. If that happens, I will register two sock puppets just to vote for P-N, and neutralize my earlier vote

[goggalor]

Tirreno, easily. P-N has been really dull these last two years.

[Swede1]

I have to say Tirreno after todays stinker in paris-nice. At least tirreno is always full of attacking riders.

[The Hitch]

Sanchez will go on the attack on Saturday's stage and gain 5 minutes.

Samu isn't riding

[Fetisoff]

Samu isn't riding

LOL. Rabo fans just can't catch a break these days

[greenedge]

Both races aren't over. Why vote now, even of Paris-Nice seems to be underwhelming yet again?

You did not think stage 2 was exciting nor the 21 cyclists to the line on a flattish stage???

[Afrank]

OK, voting Tirreno. "Queen" stage of P-N was disappointing

The queen stage sucked, looks like P-N will ounce again be decided in the time trial. Hoping for an actual climbing battle in Tirreno.

[roundabout]

Samu isn't riding

I thought about writing LLSG, but it should have been obvious to anyone watching Paris-Nice with both eyes open who I meant.

As it is, I'm a day and 286 seconds off.

[roundabout]

You did not think stage 2 was exciting nor the 21 cyclists to the line on a flattish stage???

One stage doesn't make a race.

[maltiv]

With zero normal bunch sprints so far, I'd say P-N has been pretty great. One big mountain stage and it would have been close to perfect.