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March 17th 2012 Milan-Sanremo - The Primavera - 298km

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March 17th 2012 Milan-Sanremo - The Primavera - 298km

12 Mar 2012 18:46

No thread yet. Last year, the major classics got a thread one weak in advance.

Still no Via Roma. :mad:

As you all know, Milan Sanremo is not a sprinters' classic unlike what is usually thought. I hope this year will prove it again.

A unique race by its length and by the straightness of the course. One of the hardest. (Much harder than Flanders :-D) And one of my favourites.


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12 Mar 2012 18:57

nibali will push a massive tempo up the poggio drop most of the sprinters and freire will pip sagan for the finish line.

you heard it here first
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12 Mar 2012 18:58

It didn't use to be a sprinters' classic, but since Zabel's first win there have been 10/14 editions won by sprinters, and of the others, Tchmil and Pozzato only just beat them home, finishing in the same time as the bunch gallop behind. Only Cancellara and Bettini have managed to foil the sprinters.

Last year's edition was won by a sprinter, of course, but was at last not a bunch sprint. If we can have another edition like that, then there will be no complaints.
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12 Mar 2012 19:00

phil and di luca will smoke the poggio that's for sure.

i love this race.
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12 Mar 2012 19:01

from what i saw at PN & TA i'd say Sagan
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12 Mar 2012 19:03

in 1997 i think it was the first time after 1980 with a bunch sprint.or something close to that.
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12 Mar 2012 19:11

Freire will win by 5 bikes margin you heard there first
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12 Mar 2012 19:15

Gilbert will scorch the Poggio.
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12 Mar 2012 19:17

I'm going to pick Boonen for the win. He's shown great form and I think that he truly has the mindset of a winner back after a couple of bad years... Sagan has to be an outside but Liquigas will have to make things really hard on the final climbs to shell out any remaining sprinters. That will surely test the unity between Sagan and Nibali. Hopefully after today's work by Sagan, Nibali will have given up any hard feelings over the Chieti incident and will work for Sagan if it comes to that in MSR, which it most likely will.
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12 Mar 2012 19:20

Parrulo wrote:nibali will push a massive tempo up the poggio drop most of the sprinters and freire will pip sagan for the finish line.

you heard it here first


Wouldn't be a smart move. Nibali will me much more needed afterwards in the downhill and the final km's to keep the pack together. If Nibali kills himself up the Poggio Sagan will be left with no teammates alongside him and a select group of riders who will be looking to drop Sagan.
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12 Mar 2012 19:27

i hope it will be again a hard race with few sprinters,i'd prefer none at all.
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12 Mar 2012 19:30

somebody resize the pic.

msr 1999
masterful!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfKGMYKGB4g

Edit: didn't know that jens attack has posted it.
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12 Mar 2012 19:31

Echoes wrote:As you all know, Milan Sanremo is not a sprinters' classic unlike what is usually thought.


Uh? Maybe it wasn't in the past, but the MSR has long deserved the name of "sprinters classic".

A unique race by its length and by the straightness of the course. One of the hardest. (Much harder than Flanders :-D)


Hard it is alright, but what does straightness have to do with anything? And I wouldn't say it's harder than Flanders. All in all it's the easiest monument.
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12 Mar 2012 19:50

One of the hardest classics to win, one of the easiest classics to finish.
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12 Mar 2012 19:55

Yeah, hard to look past 1) Cav, if he can hang on the front like in 2009, or 2) Sagan, if the pace is hard enough to shell some sprinters - his win in the 252km stage was impressive to say the least. I'm hoping for an edition like last year, but with Gilbert not in strong enough shape to destroy on the uphill, and with Sky being such a goddamn strong team, I can see it coming back together.

Definitely see Nibali and/or Di Luca attacking on the Poggio, but can't really see them getting away. The only one I could think of that I might expect to foil the sprinters is Cancellara; I think last year's close calls made him hungrier, and although the cobbles are a few weeks away, he may quietly be slipping into unbeatable form.
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12 Mar 2012 20:01

skidmark wrote:Yeah, hard to look past 1) Cav, if he can hang on the front like in 2009, or 2) Sagan, if the pace is hard enough to shell some sprinters - his win in the 252km stage was impressive to say the least. I'm hoping for an edition like last year, but with Gilbert not in strong enough shape to destroy on the uphill, and with Sky being such a goddamn strong team, I can see it coming back together.

Definitely see Nibali and/or Di Luca attacking on the Poggio, but can't really see them getting away. The only one I could think of that I might expect to foil the sprinters is Cancellara; I think last year's close calls made him hungrier, and although the cobbles are a few weeks away, he may quietly be slipping into unbeatable form.


Cancellara will be lucky to hang on once BMC unleashes the beast.
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12 Mar 2012 20:13

jens_attacks wrote:the ascent times up poggio,clocked and verified by me:

Poggio
2009:4 km@3,7%---6:04---average speed 39.56 km/h(Filippo Pozzato)


Truly, the year in wich Chavanel slow down the pace ? :rolleyes:
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12 Mar 2012 20:15

skidmark wrote:
Definitely see Nibali and/or Di Luca attacking on the Poggio, but can't really see them getting away. The only one I could think of that I might expect to foil the sprinters is Cancellara; I think last year's close calls made him hungrier, and although the cobbles are a few weeks away, he may quietly be slipping into unbeatable form.


Dont know what your definition of quitely is?
I certainly wouldnt call his perfomance in Strade-Bianche quiet;)
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12 Mar 2012 20:18

I've heard from many reliable sources that there's only one rider in unbeatable form and he is going to show it on the Poggio
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12 Mar 2012 20:22

I hoping for a small group. But reduced peloton with a Sagan vs EBH duell is more likely
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