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Could Contador win the Giro, Tour and Vuelta in one season?

Yes, he defintely has a good chance.
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Yes, but he only has a good chance with the "no points" rule dropped.
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Probably not, but if anyone can, it's him.
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Probably not, but he has a slight chance with the "no points" rule dropped.
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3%
He simply cannot do it.
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03 Apr 2012 14:58

Could Contador win all three grand tours in one season?

I was scanning through the PCM achievements list and one caught my eye "King of the World: Win all three grand tours in one season". I began to assemble a custom team to attempt to pull this off, and it got me thinking: could he actually do it?

While he disappointed trying to do the Giro/Tour last year, he had an injury and a pretty poor team for a rider of his standard. Obviously this year is off the cards but next year looks to be a very climb heavy Tour. The only man who can match him in the mountains is Schleck, but one would expect him to lose time in the TTs. By that time, Evans will be over the hill, and no-one has really appeared in the same class as those two.

With a good team able to take the pressure off him, he might not have to do so much of his work himself, reducing the fatigue going from race to race. If the Vuelta field is (somehow) as weak as in 2011, even an exhausted Contador should blow them apart.

Obviously securing a team that good would hinge a lot on whether the UCI's "no points for returning riders" rule is enforceable.

So, can he do it? How likely is it?
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03 Apr 2012 14:59

No.

For starters he won't try.

I'd say its about as likely as Frank Schleck winning this years Tour.
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The Father of Clean Cycling, Christophe Bassons wrote:When I look at cycling today, I get the impression that history is repeating itself: riders who are supposed to be rouleurs are climbing passes at the front of the race, and those who are supposed to be climbers are riding time trials at more than 50 kilometres per hour.

The story is beginning again, just as it did 14 years ago


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03 Apr 2012 15:02

No way at all
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03 Apr 2012 15:03

The Hitch wrote:No.

For starters he won't try.

I'd say its about as likely as Frank Schleck winning this years Tour.


How do you know he won't try? He would become one of the true legends of the sport.
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03 Apr 2012 15:07

Contador will rape everyone in August. He'll also destroy Cancellara and Tony Martin in the time trial in September. Watch out!
Ryo Hazuki wrote:horrible. boonen just the same guy as years before and this course is too hard for him. that's why he rode like a coward there were at least 3 guys stronger than boonen today and none of them won: sagan, ballan, pozzato


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03 Apr 2012 15:08

Caruut wrote:How do you know he won't try? He would become one of the true legends of the sport.


He doesn't do the Vuelta even when he has just the Tour in his legs. No way is he going to try a Vuelta after a Tour and a Giro in his legs.

And he doesn't even have a Giro Tour or Tour Vuelta double yet. Yes he got very unlucky in the 2011 Tour but if he hadn't been - hadn't lost minutes in the first weekend, hadn't been thrown of his bike by Karpets, hadn't hurt his knee, there would be no guarantee that he would have won the race.

Now try doing the Vuelta after that. How is he even supposed to prepare?

Nevermind that many people couldn't get over the Giro despite skipping the tour.

But most importantly Contador is someone who when he goes to a race, goes to perform. He has done 4 gts in 3 years and he has been ready for all of them. And he has gone all out in all of them. Its not like him to save up in 1 gt to prepare for the next. 3 gts in 1 year, I think he knows even he doesn't have the legs for it.


El Pistolero wrote:Contador will rape everyone in August. He'll also destroy Cancellara and Tony Martin in the time trial in September. Watch out!

Relevance to thread?
The Hitch: Winner 2013 Vuelta cq game. Winner, Velorooms prediction game 2012, 2013. 2nd all time cq rankings.
The Father of Clean Cycling, Christophe Bassons wrote:When I look at cycling today, I get the impression that history is repeating itself: riders who are supposed to be rouleurs are climbing passes at the front of the race, and those who are supposed to be climbers are riding time trials at more than 50 kilometres per hour.

The story is beginning again, just as it did 14 years ago


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03 Apr 2012 15:09

El Pistolero wrote:Contador will rape everyone in August. He'll also destroy Cancellara and Tony Martin in the time trial in September. Watch out!


Don't use such foul language. Alberto will rape no one.
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03 Apr 2012 15:09

El Pistolero wrote:Contador will rape everyone in August. He'll also destroy Cancellara and Tony Martin in the time trial in September. Watch out!

That's not very relevant is it.
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03 Apr 2012 15:10

@ Hitch if he has the Giro-Tour double I'm sure he'll try the Vuelta too.

Also I saw you are following me on twitter. :D How did you find me?
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03 Apr 2012 15:10

hrotha wrote:That's not very relevant is it.


33% of the work done, it's very relevant :p
Ryo Hazuki wrote:horrible. boonen just the same guy as years before and this course is too hard for him. that's why he rode like a coward there were at least 3 guys stronger than boonen today and none of them won: sagan, ballan, pozzato


The Hitch wrote:Goss will woop boonens candy a[color="Black"]ss[/color] in a sprint he cares about, any day of the week
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03 Apr 2012 15:11

hrotha wrote:That's not very relevant is it.


I think Pisti means Alberto will be so awesome he'll do the triple.
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03 Apr 2012 15:13

LaFlorecita wrote:@ Hitch if he has the Giro-Tour double I'm sure he'll try the Vuelta too.

Also I saw you are following me on twitter. :D How did you find me?


Someone else was following me and as I looked through their follow lists you were there.
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The Father of Clean Cycling, Christophe Bassons wrote:When I look at cycling today, I get the impression that history is repeating itself: riders who are supposed to be rouleurs are climbing passes at the front of the race, and those who are supposed to be climbers are riding time trials at more than 50 kilometres per hour.

The story is beginning again, just as it did 14 years ago


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03 Apr 2012 15:13

The Hitch wrote:He doesn't do the Vuelta even when he has just the Tour in his legs. No way is he going to try a Vuelta after a Tour and a Giro in his legs.

And he doesn't even have a Giro Tour or Tour Vuelta double yet. Yes he got very unlucky in the 2011 Tour but if he hadn't been - hadn't lost minutes in the first weekend, hadn't been thrown of his bike by Karpets, hadn't hurt his knee, there would be no guarantee that he would have won the race.

Now try doing the Vuelta after that. How is he even supposed to prepare?

Nevermind that many people couldn't get over the Giro despite skipping the tour.



Relevance to thread?


Surely if he did the Giro-Tour double though, he would at least go along for the ride on the Vuelta to see what he could do?

If he had a super-team, then the Giro would have put less into his legs, and Zomengan's no longer organising the Giro, which should make that easier.
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03 Apr 2012 15:13

El Pistolero wrote:33% of the work done, it's very relevant :p


Im interested to see how you explain this.
The Hitch: Winner 2013 Vuelta cq game. Winner, Velorooms prediction game 2012, 2013. 2nd all time cq rankings.
The Father of Clean Cycling, Christophe Bassons wrote:When I look at cycling today, I get the impression that history is repeating itself: riders who are supposed to be rouleurs are climbing passes at the front of the race, and those who are supposed to be climbers are riding time trials at more than 50 kilometres per hour.

The story is beginning again, just as it did 14 years ago


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03 Apr 2012 15:15

Would love to see him pull it off, if anyone could do it right now it's him. Highly unlikely though, would simply be too much for him and anyone really.
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03 Apr 2012 15:17

I hope he doesn't try it next year - I want him to utterly and completely destroy Little Andrew in July. I don't just want Contador to win, I want his victory to be so crushing that there will be so many Andrew Tears flowing that people are going to need boats instead of bikes.
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03 Apr 2012 15:18

gooner wrote:Not a hope.

He could win a Tour-Giro double but the Giro would have to be a lot easier then last years one. I think he is the only one in the peloton capable of winning 2 Tours in the same year though.

In 2013 I think he will concentrate solely on the Tour and if he wins it, I think he will go all out for the Tour-Giro double in 2014 provided the Giro isnt as brutal as in the last couple of years. I say this is a big ambition of Contador before he retires to win both in the same year.


If he does do a Giro-Tour in the next couple of years (which I think he could), then why would he not at least try the Vuelta? If they take another strong GT rider (which he would need as super-dom anyway), the worst case scenario is that he drops out and says "nope, it's too much", and they work for the other guy.
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03 Apr 2012 15:18

I won't say it can't be done, but I think Contador showed last year that he can't do it. He also said he'd never ride the giro again, so it's a pointless discussion really.

The Tour-Vuelta double is very possible though.
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03 Apr 2012 15:19

The Hitch wrote:Im interested to see how you explain this.


I guess if he wins (when he wins?) the Vuelta this year and then does the Giro-Tour in 2013, he would hold all 3 at once, but that's not what I meant.
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03 Apr 2012 15:24

Caruut wrote:Surely if he did the Giro-Tour double though, he would at least go along for the ride on the Vuelta to see what he could do?

If he had a super-team, then the Giro would have put less into his legs, and Zomengan's no longer organising the Giro, which should make that easier.


The problem is that its not as simple as just doing the Vuelta.

This is a brutal sport. I bet after the Giro he was crying every day about how much pain he was in and wondering how he will get in shape for the Tour.

After the Tour he will have absolutely nothing left. He will know straight away that doing another gt 3 weeks later is pointless.
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The Father of Clean Cycling, Christophe Bassons wrote:When I look at cycling today, I get the impression that history is repeating itself: riders who are supposed to be rouleurs are climbing passes at the front of the race, and those who are supposed to be climbers are riding time trials at more than 50 kilometres per hour.

The story is beginning again, just as it did 14 years ago


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