Log in:  

Register

47th Amstel Gold Race (The maze) - Sunday April 15, 2012

A place to discuss all things related to current professional road races. Here, you can also touch on the latest news relating to professional road racing. A doping discussion free forum.

12 Apr 2012 10:06

Thomas Dekker ‏ @DekkerThomas Beantwoorden Retweeten Toevoegen aan favorieten · Openen
Niet helemaal mijn ding. Draaien en keren. De benen zijn ok. Goede training voor de Amstel.


:o
Ryo Hazuki wrote:horrible. boonen just the same guy as years before and this course is too hard for him. that's why he rode like a coward there were at least 3 guys stronger than boonen today and none of them won: sagan, ballan, pozzato


The Hitch wrote:Goss will woop boonens candy a[color="Black"]ss[/color] in a sprint he cares about, any day of the week
User avatar El Pistolero
Senior Member
 
Posts: 14,298
Joined: 16 Jul 2010 21:53

12 Apr 2012 10:09

Samuel Sanchez is indeed riding AGR
User avatar BRCYC11
Junior Member
 
Posts: 52
Joined: 20 Sep 2011 10:23

12 Apr 2012 10:11

El Pistolero wrote:Thomas Dekker ‏ @DekkerThomas Beantwoorden Retweeten Toevoegen aan favorieten · Openen
Niet helemaal mijn ding. Draaien en keren. De benen zijn ok. Goede training voor de Amstel.


:o

? that was about br pijl. In amstel he knows the course better so the twisting and turning doesn't bother him there
BYOP88 wrote:Great to see that Porte has rediscovered his 2010/11 climbing form. Hope he can keep it for the rest of the Tour and year.
User avatar Dekker_Tifosi
Senior Member
 
Posts: 19,189
Joined: 13 Mar 2009 23:52
Location: Roermond, the Netherlands

12 Apr 2012 10:21

ccyclo
Junior Member
 
Posts: 25
Joined: 29 Feb 2012 00:46

12 Apr 2012 10:28

Dekker_Tifosi wrote:? that was about br pijl. In amstel he knows the course better so the twisting and turning doesn't bother him there


it does bother him because he sucks at placing himself. I don't xpect anything from him sunday. maybe in lbl he can
User avatar Ryo Hazuki
Senior Member
 
Posts: 15,084
Joined: 31 Mar 2010 13:50

12 Apr 2012 11:15

no one has yet mentioned the fact that (due to road works in Valkenburg) the finale has underwent change

for the 3rd & final climb of the Cauberg the riders will no longer descent the (technical) Sibbergrubbe (where Ivanov went all out in 2009 & almost rode in the grassy banks, but dit set up his base for his escape & later victory ... & where last year Phil hauled back a lot of time on Schleck with his superior descending skills)

now the riders leave the Sibbergrubbe on their right & go straight towards the Daalhemmerweg for the final descent to the Cauberg
this is a very 'easy' & straight forward descent, nothing technical about it (wide lane, almost no corners)

so an escape by a strong rider (with some TT skills) has a lot more chance to stick this year than any other years where most of the attempts to break away on the Keutenberg were countered & caught ...
sTTevie
Junior Member
 
Posts: 118
Joined: 23 Mar 2009 09:58
Location: Leuven, Belgium

12 Apr 2012 11:23

sTTevie wrote:no one has yet mentioned the fact that (due to road works in Valkenburg) the finale has underwent change

for the 3rd & final climb of the Cauberg the riders will no longer descent the (technical) Sibbergrubbe (where Ivanov went all out in 2009 & almost rode in the grassy banks, but dit set up his base for his escape & later victory ... & where last year Phil hauled back a lot of time on Schleck with his superior descending skilss)

now the riders leave the Sibbergrubbe on their right & go straight towards the Daalhemmerweg for the final descent to the Cauberg
this is a very 'easy' & straight forward descent, nothing technical about it (wide lane, almost no corners)

so an escape by a strong rider (with some TT skills) has a lot more chance to stick this year than any other years where most of the attempts to break away on the Keutenberg were countered & caught ...


Thanks for that :) I remember reading about it a while ago. Hopefully will make for a better finale.
User avatar will10
Senior Member
 
Posts: 6,013
Joined: 27 Dec 2010 14:08

12 Apr 2012 11:24

It's not due to road works, the new final was announced quite some time ago as a way to give attackers on the Keutenberg more of a chance.
theyoungest
Senior Member
 
Posts: 12,239
Joined: 11 Jan 2010 14:47

12 Apr 2012 11:35

I know he is the lieutenant for Rodriguez, but Moreno could be a dangerous outsider as well.
Ryo Hazuki wrote:contador is such a coward :o
User avatar Hugo Koblet
Senior Member
 
Posts: 4,597
Joined: 09 May 2010 08:08

12 Apr 2012 11:39

theyoungest wrote:It's not due to road works, the new final was announced quite some time ago as a way to give attackers on the Keutenberg more of a chance.


that's how Leo sold it to the world :D but the traditional ring road that was used up until now is getting a new sewage system ...

http://www.valkenburg.nl/index.php?simaction=content&mediumid=1&pagid=1217&stukid=13077

there's no other decent way towards the Cauberg (if you're coming from Sibbergrubbe) than the ring road ...
so, however you put it, Sibbergrubbe was no longer an option for 2012 ;)
sTTevie
Junior Member
 
Posts: 118
Joined: 23 Mar 2009 09:58
Location: Leuven, Belgium

12 Apr 2012 12:13

The immensely strong Movistar squad:
Alejandro Valverde
Giovanni Visconti
Rui Costa
Jose Joaquin Rojas
Angel Madrazo
Pablo Lastras
Vasil Kiryienka
Imanol Erviti
User avatar Netserk
Senior Member
 
Posts: 15,134
Joined: 30 Apr 2011 13:10
Location: Denmark

12 Apr 2012 12:21

vacansoleil sending a very strong team as well:

CARRARA Matteo
LINDEMAN Bertjan
HOOGERLAND Johnny
POELS Wout
LIGTHART Pim
MARCATO Marco
RUYGH Rob
WESTRA Lieuwe

They're just missing a real big contender for the win.

Hopefully get somebody in the brake, then Hoogerland and Westra can place attacks in the final, and if it all comes down to it, Poels can try and contend the sprint on the Cauberg, lead out maybe by Marcato or Ligthart.
User avatar Maaaaaaaarten
Senior Member
 
Posts: 2,424
Joined: 23 Oct 2011 17:47

12 Apr 2012 12:22

Hugo Koblet wrote:I know he is the lieutenant for Rodriguez, but Moreno could be a dangerous outsider as well.


but he will have to work 100% in the final
User avatar Ryo Hazuki
Senior Member
 
Posts: 15,084
Joined: 31 Mar 2010 13:50

12 Apr 2012 12:22

Maaaaaaaarten wrote:vacansoleil sending a very strong team as well:

CARRARA Matteo
LINDEMAN Bertjan
HOOGERLAND Johnny
POELS Wouter
LIGTHART Pim
MARCATO Marco
RUYGH Rob
WESTRA Lieuwe

They're just missing a real big contender for the win.

Hopefully get somebody in the brake, then Hoogerland and Westra can place attacks in the final, and if it all comes down to it, Poels can try and contend the sprint on the Cauberg, lead out maybe by Marcato or Ligthart.


westra will win easily
BYOP88 wrote:Great to see that Porte has rediscovered his 2010/11 climbing form. Hope he can keep it for the rest of the Tour and year.
User avatar Dekker_Tifosi
Senior Member
 
Posts: 19,189
Joined: 13 Mar 2009 23:52
Location: Roermond, the Netherlands

12 Apr 2012 12:29

Katusha roster

Xavier Florencio, Oscar Freire, Alberto Losada, Daniel Moreno, Luca Paolini, Joaquim Rodriguez, Angel Vicioso, Eduard Vorganov. Sport Directors: Christian Henn, Valerio Piva.

And a little picture :)

Image

The title of this "article" on the official site is "Joaquim Rodriguez and Oscar Freire together for "Amstel Gold Race" :D
Fetisoff
Senior Member
 
Posts: 2,767
Joined: 22 Jan 2011 02:09

12 Apr 2012 12:32

Jrod has already won this hasn't he.
DominicDecoco
Senior Member
 
Posts: 2,641
Joined: 17 Feb 2012 16:24

12 Apr 2012 12:35

Friere is my dark horse. He's smart and in good form, was only 5 seconds back last year. Otherwise, Garrans is my top choice.
Tom T.
Junior Member
 
Posts: 554
Joined: 25 Oct 2009 21:04

12 Apr 2012 12:39

DominicDecoco wrote:Jrod has already won this hasn't he.

No. He was 2nd here last year and that was his best ever
BYOP88 wrote:Great to see that Porte has rediscovered his 2010/11 climbing form. Hope he can keep it for the rest of the Tour and year.
User avatar Dekker_Tifosi
Senior Member
 
Posts: 19,189
Joined: 13 Mar 2009 23:52
Location: Roermond, the Netherlands

12 Apr 2012 12:41

Dekker_Tifosi wrote:No. He was 2nd here last year and that was his best ever


I think he meant this years edition ;)
User avatar Netserk
Senior Member
 
Posts: 15,134
Joined: 30 Apr 2011 13:10
Location: Denmark

12 Apr 2012 12:43

Dekker_Tifosi wrote:No. He was 2nd here last year and that was his best ever


Not what I meant.
DominicDecoco
Senior Member
 
Posts: 2,641
Joined: 17 Feb 2012 16:24

PreviousNext

Return to Professional road racing

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot], dusty red roads, Fernandez, Gigs_98, Google Adsense [Bot], jaylew, LaFlorecita, Mr.White, Nick C., nuvolablu, Põhja Konn, qwer, rghysens, Vesica, Vino attacks everyone, Volderke and 42 guests

Back to top