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21 May 2012 16:19

You've got riders of which you don't know how good they are because they never show anything, and you've got Gesink, who's always riding likes he's gonna die in a couple of minutes.

I don't think he's a favourite, he wins one race and gets hyped immediately. He could be one of the riders making a couple of attacks though
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21 May 2012 16:26

As mentioned at the TT of the ToC, i already signed Gesink for the win there and looked forward the TdF. As we see in the cowardly racing of nowadays, when race radios, powermeters and all the other computerized stuff decide the outcome of races (thank you Mr. JV :mad:), Gesink can win the TdF. Just suck the wheel of Evans and have one great day in the mountains. That´s (besides no crashes/illness) all that Gesink needs to succeed... I am very optimistic. :)
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21 May 2012 16:33

Dekker_Tifosi wrote:Without bad luck, yeah he can win.
There is no Contador. Andy is worse than ever. Only Evans and Wiggins are the biggest problems then
It's an open Tour this year anyway. Vandenbroeck could win too. Nibali too...


Lol vdb and.nibali above sanchez and menchov.

Please explain to me under what logic can one dismiss the best climber around (Andy) like that bbut then say that jvdb can win the tour ?

Andy worse than ever. well he will peak for the tour no, regardless of how cap he was in races he doesn't care about
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21 May 2012 16:36

the 'hype' is not based on ToC. It's a pretty logical assesment of his qualities past and present combined with the calculated increase in form between ToC and Tour de France.

Hype is saying he is a certainty for TDF podium or victory. Hyping up is saying he will win the TDF or will end on the podium.
Saying he could podium or win the TDF, given certain requirements are met (increase in form, not crashing), like I do, is not hyping.

Some people here totally lack understanding of the meaning of 'hyping'
He can podium or win TDF. But so can 7/8 other Tour contenders this year, like I said, it's more open this season.
BYOP88 wrote:Great to see that Porte has rediscovered his 2010/11 climbing form. Hope he can keep it for the rest of the Tour and year.
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21 May 2012 16:45

I like the respect Gesink has consistently shown the ToC. He comes here prepared to race, and is one of the few non-Americans to do so. I've been a fan since his stage win in San Jose a few years back, and to see him take the overall was a real pleasure.
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21 May 2012 17:02

Dekker_Tifosi wrote:the 'hype' is not based on ToC. It's a pretty logical assesment of his qualities past and present combined with the calculated increase in form between ToC and Tour de France.


Like last year, when he did have a decent basis from winter training and was lucky enough to blame it on a crash?
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21 May 2012 17:13

boomcie wrote:Like last year, when he did have a decent basis from winter training and was lucky enough to blame it on a crash?


Do the belgians on these forums hate every dutch rider or just Gesink? I've read quite some negative posts from them in several topics. Cheer up, be gone with the sour face.
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21 May 2012 17:14

boomcie wrote:Like last year, when he did have a decent basis from winter training and was lucky enough to blame it on a crash?


:rolleyes: yeah, so lucky that he hit the deck with 70km/u
Man you are not worth talking to.

Why don't you stay out of this topic? Please, if you can? Pretty please?
BYOP88 wrote:Great to see that Porte has rediscovered his 2010/11 climbing form. Hope he can keep it for the rest of the Tour and year.
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21 May 2012 17:29

So DT you still think that atm nibali is better then gesink? :p

anyway it's awesome to see him back to his old self, hopefully he will manage to stay upright at the tour :o
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21 May 2012 17:30

Parrulo wrote:So DT you still think that atm nibali is better then gesink? :p

anyway it's awesome to see him back to his old self, hopefully he will manage to stay upright at the tour :o


This is Crash Bandicoot we're talking about.
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21 May 2012 17:31

El Pistolero wrote:This is Crash Bandicoot we're talking about.


It is ok. Crash Bandicoot still wins races, in contrary to Vandenbrokenbones.
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21 May 2012 17:32

Parrulo wrote:So DT you still think that atm nibali is better then gesink? :p

anyway it's awesome to see him back to his old self, hopefully he will manage to stay upright at the tour :o


Dont know if anyone can say Nibali is certainly better, rather he has showed more to suggest he may be the better rider.

Imo Gesink is very possibly the more talented rider... but he hasnt shown enough in the recent future to back that up.
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21 May 2012 17:40

If you take both their careers up until Nibali's sudden vuelta win it never looked like Nibali would be better or become better. And the moment when Gesink became pro (2007) he did better in most times they met until 2010.

nibali is ofcourse 2 years older and 2 years longer professional, and a better bike handler. The last part explains 90% of the difference in results. Nibali doesn't fall, Nibali can make up time in descends when he is dropped (like Giro last year), and can put opponents under pressure before the final climb or when the finish is in a descend. And most of all, because Nibali doesn't fall he has rode and finished much more GT's than Gesink, a few times 2 a year, so Nibali has built up a lot more 'fond'.
It would be good if Gesink finished Tour and vuelta this year, just to catch up some of that 'damage'
BYOP88 wrote:Great to see that Porte has rediscovered his 2010/11 climbing form. Hope he can keep it for the rest of the Tour and year.
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21 May 2012 18:23

Azabael wrote:Do the belgians on these forums hate every dutch rider or just Gesink? I've read quite some negative posts from them in several topics. Cheer up, be gone with the sour face.

+1

Boomcie doesn't understand the purpose of an appreciation thread. Nor does he recognise his own huge bias.
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21 May 2012 18:30

Havetts wrote:It is ok. Crash Bandicoot still wins races, in contrary to Vandenbrokenbones.


But in the end people will see that VDB2 finished higher in the Tour than Crash. Crash can win all the crit races he wants, it's all about who beats who in the Tour. Even with broken bones VDB2 returned quickly and did a top ten in the Vuelta while Crash did well.... Not much.
Ryo Hazuki wrote:horrible. boonen just the same guy as years before and this course is too hard for him. that's why he rode like a coward there were at least 3 guys stronger than boonen today and none of them won: sagan, ballan, pozzato


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21 May 2012 18:34

We'll see come july :) until then keep your trolling pact with Boomcie on velorooms not here :)
BYOP88 wrote:Great to see that Porte has rediscovered his 2010/11 climbing form. Hope he can keep it for the rest of the Tour and year.
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21 May 2012 18:38

YAWN. Can boomcie and Pisti please stop being stupid. Thanks.
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21 May 2012 18:38

What will we see in July? That you'll come with an excuse when Gesink fails or gloat when he doesn't?

Like I said, top 5 yes, win no. I honestly don't even care much for VDB2 :D

I rather see riders like Jrod then who win GT stages and wear leader jerseys for a while even if they fail in the GC.
Ryo Hazuki wrote:horrible. boonen just the same guy as years before and this course is too hard for him. that's why he rode like a coward there were at least 3 guys stronger than boonen today and none of them won: sagan, ballan, pozzato


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21 May 2012 18:41

Kudos to Gesink, tough couple of years and he's getting back to his best. Those doubting his talent don't know anything. If he stays on his bike he'll be at the pointy end of things, and unlike Andy he actually has worked on his TT, so it'd be interesting to see how things pan out betwee pure climbers, pure TT'ers and the in-betweeners.
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21 May 2012 18:44

Lol. Classic Pisti and Boomcie trolling session on anything non Belgian. What a pathetic bunch. They're on a roll since they have tried, and failed, to give Gesink a new nickname - not to mention the retarded avatars. You lot really need to get a new hobby.
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