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26 May 2012 19:03

When Purito came 3rd (2nd even) on le tourmalet, when did he drop the guys who finished behind him?
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The Father of Clean Cycling, Christophe Bassons wrote:When I look at cycling today, I get the impression that history is repeating itself: riders who are supposed to be rouleurs are climbing passes at the front of the race, and those who are supposed to be climbers are riding time trials at more than 50 kilometres per hour.

The story is beginning again, just as it did 14 years ago


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26 May 2012 19:06

I was hoping for fireworks today...(well TDG did a good job) and thought JRod would (along with Scarponi) be aggressive and put the hurt on Ryder et al. Unfortunately my vision was not met (bummer:o). I believe they both played it safe, aiming for a high GC finish but not gambling all, for a possible GC win.

Maybe JRod feared exploding and kept to his routine, thereby minimizing his "losses"...as in, avoiding the possibility of disintegrating while also gaining a few seconds with his last minute sprint.

Likewise Scarponi...he was hanging on, about on the limit, only really pushing when he "knew" he could finish without "dying" before the finish.

I was disappointed, but then I was not facing invidious choices.
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26 May 2012 19:22

Purito was reading this forum yesterday and saw that all the discussion was about the points jersey.
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26 May 2012 20:18

Dekker_Tifosi wrote:But yet. When Evans does this, he gets tons and tons of critics.

Purito does it. It's fine and dandy

Double standards here are annoying me


They're completely different riders. Double standards don't apply here. Settle down and try to enjoy even if your hero isn't riding.
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26 May 2012 20:27

I enjoyed the past 2 stages of the Giro. But it sure as hell was not because of Rodriguez
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26 May 2012 20:43

Dekker_Tifosi wrote:But yet. When Evans does this, he gets tons and tons of critics.

Purito does it. It's fine and dandy

Double standards here are annoying me


Purito goes not go around kissing rat dogs and getting in a huffy state if he is in a mob of reporters.

Races and does what he's good at doesn't make up excuses or goes for the woe is me angle.

See the difference yet?
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26 May 2012 20:50

Interesting quote from Purito and his DS:
Piva said, “I’m happy that we’re here at the top of the Stelvio with the pink jersey. It means that we’ve done a good race.” The Italian didn’t hide that he asked Rodriguez to attacked earlier than when he did on the Passo dello Stelvio. But “Purito” had no regrets over his tactic. “I attacked late on because I wanted to see if Basso and Scarponi could stay with me,” he said.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/rodriguez-still-in-giro-ditalia-lead-with-one-stage-left
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26 May 2012 21:41

Baffling, considering when he attacked, Basso had long since been dropped and Scarponi had already attacked.
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27 May 2012 00:12

Dekker_Tifosi wrote:I must admit, I have a sort of love/hate relationship with this guys racing style. The attacks on short steep walls and racing in classics is fine with me and I kinda admire his exploits on Monte Lupone and Muur de Huy...

But his racing in GT's is making me sad. Always the same wheelsucking till 800m to go and sprint. Only difference was dauphine 11 on l'allevard and earlier in his career, but then he always blew..

Him and Arroyo was the ones who attacked on Passo Giau on the queen stage of last year's Giro as far as I remember.

Just saying.
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27 May 2012 00:34

MrRoboto wrote:Him and Arroyo was the ones who attacked on Passo Giau on the queen stage of last year's Giro as far as I remember.

Just saying.


Was he even top10 on GC at that point?
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27 May 2012 15:42

Libertine Seguros wrote:But Purito doesn't do what Evans (used to) do.
Purito gets the lead of the race, then sits on people who should be attacking him until it's close enough to the finish for him to do his thing. Evans used to sit on people and let them do the work, waiting for the ITT to beat them. Purito will lose in the ITT, so he has to do something, but he also knows he doesn't have the endurance for a long-range attack so he waits until it's inside his range. The steeper the climb, the longer his range is.

It's frustrating to watch at times, but it's the product of having a limited skillset. Evans didn't have a limited skillset, he just was prepared to lean heavily on one skill to the detriment of others. A bit like Valverde sitting in and waiting for the sprint in one-day races, I guess. Valverde's skill-set is not limited like Purito's, so it's more annoying when he doesn't take advantage of it.


El Purito is still developing as a cyclist, having come into his own as a climber only last year. He is obviously an opportunist, but is also a fighter who can win races and compete with the likes of Gilbert in the Ardennes, while having a weaker team.

Can you imagine if Gilbert could climb like Rodriguez? No, it's all punch...but Rodriguez can hang with both Gilbert and climbing specialists at the top of the Giro GC. It's a unique and underappreciated skill set. He won La Fleche Wallone this year...

I like opportunists like El Purito, they provide balance and color.

How much support do you think Katusha gave him?
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27 May 2012 15:59

serves him right to lose the giro by so little time, he will be wondering what if he had attack from further then 1k out on the mountain stages for the rest of his life.

i like him as a classics rider but as a GT rider his trademark type of riding has gotten boring pretty damn fast :o
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27 May 2012 16:02

He rode a very good tt, he is still improving somewhat, but i don't think he'll get such a chance to win a GT very soon.
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27 May 2012 16:02

Well, I think I'll be keeping my Purito-Facepalm avatar for a while now.
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27 May 2012 16:05

Fetisoff wrote:Well, I think I'll be keeping my Purito-Facepalm avatar for a while now.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ik0xOAkvlrI

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27 May 2012 17:11

http://www.marca.com/2012/05/27/ciclismo/giro_italia/1338132632.html
The rider from Parets (Barcelona) [Purito] has been the bravest of the bunch, attacking whenever he could and paying no mind to saving energy

Gah. GAH. GAAAAAH.
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27 May 2012 17:22

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27 May 2012 17:33

Parrulo wrote:serves him right to lose the giro by so little time, he will be wondering what if he had attack from further then 1k out on the mountain stages for the rest of his life.

i like him as a classics rider but as a GT rider his trademark type of riding has gotten boring pretty damn fast :o


I like Purito's aggressive riding. His trademark type of riding hasn't gotten boring pretty damn fast for me. However, your post and threads have gotten boring pretty damn fast for me (this said with all respect). As you see, just a matter of opinion.
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27 May 2012 18:00

It appears to me that he's actually improving as a grand tour rider. How often in the past has he even held the leader's jersey till the final stage? I wouldn't dismiss the possibility of his winning a grand tour, the Vuelta or the Giro in the next couple of years.
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27 May 2012 19:03

A deprecation thread for someone who obtained his best result in a grand tour in his entire career? bit weird. and I can think of many more guys who would 'deserve' such thread way more than purito anyway. *cough* basso *cough* scarponi *cough*
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