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10 Jun 2013 04:05

It´s so funny, everybody is talking about AC´s lack of form, lesser TT skills, weaker team, and bla bla bla

Nobody talks about the fact that the Dawg have been in top form the entire season and its more unlikely he can obtain or even progress his form another 5 weeks, especially in the last week of the tour.

If AC can find his 100%, and top the last 2 weeks of the tour, I would say the Dawg is in for some nasty surprises. Listen to the english commentators on Eurosport today was just hilarious, they already gave the tour victory to Froome since AC was no more a threat because of his 10th overall in the Dauphine...

As I read it, Riis have changed AC´s preparation and training, and we will see another AC in the tour, one with more endurance and more speed.
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10 Jun 2013 04:18

xrayvision wrote:It´s so funny, everybody is talking about AC´s lack of form, lesser TT skills, weaker team, and bla bla bla

Nobody talks about the fact that the Dawg have been in top form the entire season and its more unlikely he can obtain or even progress his form another 5 weeks, especially in the last week of the tour.

If AC can find his 100%, and top the last 2 weeks of the tour, I would say the Dawg is in for some nasty surprises. Listen to the english commentators on Eurosport today was just hilarious, they already gave the tour victory to Froome since AC was no more a threat because of his 10th overall in the Dauphine...

As I read it, Riis have changed AC´s preparation and training, and we will see another AC in the tour, one with more endurance and more speed.

I tend to agree, i will judge AC after the Tour, as i do expect him to keep progressing and form to get stronger, whereas it will be hard to believe Dawg can do a full season in peak form.

Also fully agree on commentators on Eurosport, they are getting a bit of a joke, Sean Kelly is still decent but the rest of them are too one sided.
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10 Jun 2013 04:21

IndianCyclist wrote:I think that surprised everybody. Riis is a very canny strategist and Contador also has very good tactical acumen. The combination is particularly deadly when it comes to winning races. I would not be surprised if they derail the Sky train. But it is different matter altogether to get rid of Froome. They got rid of Purito becuse he isn't good in the flats. But Froome is a very good TTer.

But Riis will not be present at TdF, or at least not for most of it, so not sure how much help he can offer on the stages.
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10 Jun 2013 04:30

Well, according to Froome before the Dauphine he's not hit his best form yet. ;) Plus it's 2013, where a rider can peak all year right up to his main goal (see Wiggins 2012, or even Evans 2011).
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10 Jun 2013 04:33

TANK91 wrote:I feel so content with what i wrote yday now, even more so now i believe when i said i was not troling it looks like im talking sense. No Froome did not drop Contador but just wow, imagine if Froome did not have to wait for Porte, he was riding im off his wheel with ease and had to keep dropping back.

So im sorry but Froome is the boss La Flo if Contador did thistoday or in the past youd be the same, not hating it's just the truth.

And seriously what a fail by Riis, 1. Contador attacking and then Sky lifted the pace and Rogers was dropped and 2. the damage was already done Contador was not going to save Roger's podium spot, so why not leave him up the road.
3. Contador new he coulnt win and though why lose and give Froome even more mentaly advantage.

What a stage though i really enjoyed that i so love watching the uphill performance when he goes for it, it would be great to see Froome behind before the mountains, lets hope Froome looses 30+ seconds in the TTT and then on AX Froome goes awol.

1) I am sure Contador did not just attack without Rogers thinking he could keep up, sometimes you just hit the wall.
2) Guessing that Contador wanted to show he is there for his team mates if they can do something. Also keep in mind that any WT Points he would have won, would not have counted, whereas any Rogers gets, will.
3) Again i am not sure, TST might have said the more points for Rogers the better and AC will get his crack in the TdF.

Finally Froome might have held back a bit, but not sure he would have caught De Marchi in the end but decent chance, also seems Talansky and Fuglsang would have overtaken Porte on the climb, if he had left Porte behind. Which leads me to think that AC would have been right up there, as he did look like a stronger climber than Talansky, Fuglsang and Porte, but guess we will get to see the full picture of everyone’s form in TdF, exciting times ahead for sure.
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10 Jun 2013 04:37

Afrank wrote:Well, according to Froome before the Dauphine he's not hit his best form yet. ;) Plus it's 2013, where a rider can peak all year right up to his main goal (see Wiggins 2012, or even Evans 2011).

Believe Froome said he was at 85-90% and AC is saying he is at 75%, so now it is up to AC to show he can get the remaining % next few weeks, whereas Froome needs to slowly build up and then maintain it over the 3 weeks in TdF.
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10 Jun 2013 05:44

Who said Froomester should be in top form to win Dauphine? ;)
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10 Jun 2013 05:53

airstream wrote:Who said Froomester should be in top form to win Dauphine? ;)


90 - 95% is what I would call top form, 75% isn´t.

Now, one thing puzzles me, if it had been AC who had a season like the Dawg had so far, we would have heard tons of comments about steaks and other **** from you air, how come we haven¨t heard a single word or insinuation when it comes to Froome? After all, its a guy who came from zero to hero in under 2 years.
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10 Jun 2013 05:57

xrayvision wrote:90 - 95% is what I would call top form, 75% isn´t.

Now, one thing puzzles me, if it had been AC who had a season like the Dawg had so far, we would have heard tons of comments about steaks and other **** from you air, how come we haven¨t heard a single word or insinuation when it comes to Froome? After all, its a guy who came from zero to hero in under 2 years.


Huh? Stupid question, after all he wouldn't be able to bait Alberto fans then.
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10 Jun 2013 06:15

xrayvision wrote:90 - 95% is what I would call top form, 75% isn´t.

Now, one thing puzzles me, if it had been AC who had a season like the Dawg had so far, we would have heard tons of comments about steaks and other **** from you air, how come we haven¨t heard a single word or insinuation when it comes to Froome? After all, its a guy who came from zero to hero in under 2 years.


I never remembered Contador's previous sins and never accused any rider of bigger sins compared to other ones. Even Florecita can confirm it. As to Froome. I'm just glad that the things I had predicted after the Vuelta 2011 came true so quickly. Though, he doesn't inspire much. I'm starting to fear with such a TT edge Froome won't want to attack on the climbs and we won't see beautiful open battles. :(

I support other riders, but I never belittled Contador's strength. NEVER.
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10 Jun 2013 08:16

airstream wrote:I never remembered Contador's previous sins and never accused any rider of bigger sins compared to other ones. Even Florecita can confirm it. As to Froome. I'm just glad that the things I had predicted after the Vuelta 2011 came true so quickly. Though, he doesn't inspire much. I'm starting to fear with such a TT edge Froome won't want to attack on the climbs and we won't see beautiful open battles. :(

I support other riders, but I never belittled Contador's strength. NEVER.


I know for a fact that is pure BS, but never mind, going through your 3600 posts is not something I´m gonna spend my time on.
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10 Jun 2013 08:17

LaFlorecita wrote:Huh? Stupid question, after all he wouldn't be able to bait Alberto fans then.


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10 Jun 2013 08:18

Less about each other.

More about Alberto.

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10 Jun 2013 08:32

xrayvision wrote:I know for a fact that is pure BS, but never mind, going through your 3600 posts is not something I´m gonna spend my time on.


No problem. You gotta communicate only with posters like Florecita then. More belief in the past - more optimism. :) But anyway I offer not to get personal and not to offend each other.
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10 Jun 2013 09:40

Looking at the Dauphine I think it's clear the Contador has more room for improvement then Froome. Froome seems to be close to his to form while Contador still has some % that he can gain.
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10 Jun 2013 09:44

webbie146 wrote:Looking at the Dauphine I think it's clear the Contador has more room for improvement then Froome. Froome seems to be close to his to form while Contador still has some % that he can gain.


Surely if you assume you already saw a 100% of Froome.
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10 Jun 2013 09:44

That's an assumption. Just because Froome is much stronger doesn't mean he's closer to his potential.

As we know, he entered a wind tunnel for the first time in his life not too long ago. It wouldn't surprise me if he now issued a statement that, thus far, his training rides have been mainly flat stages, and now is the time to actually train climbing for the Tour. :eek:

edit: airstream beats me to the punch. great minds think alike!
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10 Jun 2013 09:56

How do you think is it possible Contador was coming back to Rogers yesterday partially in order not to need to respond Froome diabolic attack?
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10 Jun 2013 09:56

I honestly hope Alberto can find some form in the next few weeks. I'm not a fan of Contador but I respect the fact he can light up races and I can see why lots love him. I also want to see a great battle at the Tour.

The big problem for him is that Froome seems so strong up these longer climbs and has a very good team alongside him.

If he doesn't improve his TT then he could have to find a lot of time in the mountains which will take some serious effort.
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10 Jun 2013 10:13

airstream wrote:How do you think is it possible Contador was coming back to Rogers yesterday partially in order not to need to respond Froome diabolic attack?


Lolz

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