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25 Jun 2013 21:38

Anderis wrote:I would love to see Garmin trying simillar strategy to last year's USA Pro Cycling Challenge!


what strategy would that be?
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25 Jun 2013 21:43

Go and read the last link posted above my previous post. I think it's explained quite well there.
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25 Jun 2013 22:02

Garmin is focused around Dan Martin isn't it with maybe Hesjedal back involved too
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25 Jun 2013 22:08

Well, if I understand correctly, they aren't focused on anyone and their strategy is to have multiple GC options in order to put other teams under pressure. They hope others will not be able to react on all of their attacks due to this.
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26 Jun 2013 01:18

Anderis wrote:I would love to see Garmin trying simillar strategy to last year's USA Pro Cycling Challenge!


That would be great, but I'm afraid those kind of tactics would be doomed to fail in the Tour de France. It's easy to implement those kind of tactics and find success through them at a race like the US pro Challenge. Where the competition isn't great, the world tour teams are much stronger, and the race is only a week long. They'll completely burn themselves out doing it at the Tour though.

Hopefully they do take an attacking approach to the mountains and decisive stages though.
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26 Jun 2013 01:19

Dazed and Confused wrote:what strategy would that be?


Attack all the time, get in breaks, and basically be a pain in the a$$ for the teams trying to control the race and keep it together. :D
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26 Jun 2013 01:27

Afrank wrote:Attack all the time, get in breaks, and basically be a pain in the a$$ for the teams trying to control the race and keep it together. :D


I think it's a strategy that can work, if nothing else for gaining new fans.
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26 Jun 2013 01:39

It can work for certain stages and situations. The tactic won't work using it to the same degree they used it to at the US pro challenge or have the same success rate as they did have with the tactic there. But in the right situation on the right stage they could find success with it. Especially if other teams and riders (GC riders) join them in it.
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26 Jun 2013 07:36

karlboss wrote:Now we just need someone to confirm the whole team one at a time, garmin last team to be announced. :(


I think the team should be announced today. :)
And if it's hard for us to wait, then imagine how the riders must be feeling!
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26 Jun 2013 14:14

the Inner Ring ‏@inrng 1m
Garmin-Sharp's Tour team: Talansky, Vande Velde, Martin, Millar, Bauer, Navardauskas, Dennis, Hesjedal + Danielson
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26 Jun 2013 15:42

NattyTerp wrote:the Inner Ring ‏@inrng 1m
Garmin-Sharp's Tour team: Talansky, Vande Velde, Martin, Millar, Bauer, Navardauskas, Dennis, Hesjedal + Danielson


Good to see Navardauskas in there. He and Martin are fun riders to watch.
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26 Jun 2013 16:07

Talansky and Hesjedal will lead.

Martin will be a bit more free than others and will try win a stage or top 10.
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26 Jun 2013 17:07

now thats a strong team, they could really spice up things.
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27 Jun 2013 03:45

Sophistic82 wrote:now thats a strong team, they could really spice up things.


Arguably the strongest support team in the race for whoever ends up as their GC leader on the road. When your fifth strongest climber is someone like Danielson or Vande Velde, you know you have a very strong mountains team and they also have guys who have serious flat horse power. Although Bauer strikes me as a bit of an odd choice over Vansummeren, Zabriskie or Rasmussen.

The problem is that it's hard to see any of their prospective leaders challenging the top tier GC riders. Hopefully that means that they'll attack like mad with the likes of Martin and Navardauskas rather than have a team that deep all work for a 6th place on GC. Particularly in the absence of a sprinter.
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27 Jun 2013 03:48

Coming into this race as underdogs in the GC race, they are looking pretty well armed. They are also well known for a strong TTT which could be a decisive stage for them.
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27 Jun 2013 04:22

Zinoviev Letter wrote:Arguably the strongest support team in the race for whoever ends up as their GC leader on the road. When your fifth strongest climber is someone like Danielson or Vande Velde, you know you have a very strong mountains team and they also have guys who have serious flat horse power. Although Bauer strikes me as a bit of an odd choice over Vansummeren, Zabriskie or Rasmussen.

The problem is that it's hard to see any of their prospective leaders challenging the top tier GC riders. Hopefully that means that they'll attack like mad with the likes of Martin and Navardauskas rather than have a team that deep all work for a 6th place on GC. Particularly in the absence of a sprinter.


True, but you still need a strong leader for a good result. I'd say a satisfactory result would be one rider in the top 10 and a stage win, along with time in breakaways. Anything better would be a huge success, hesjedal and Martin could even target KOM.
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27 Jun 2013 07:23

I don't think one rider in top10 would satisfy them. They always managed to do that (apart from 2012, when everyone crashed) even in times when they had just 2 proper climers in the team and one of them crashed (2010).

Two riders in top10 or one in top5 is what I rate as a good result for them. Hopefully they will keep their promise about being aggresive and this will pay off with some stage wins and maybe a team-classifiacation win.

And Bauer is there, because he is better time-trial rider than Van Summeren, better climber than Rasmussen and is in better shape than Zabriskie.
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27 Jun 2013 08:39

Anderis wrote:I don't think one rider in top10 would satisfy them. They always managed to do that (apart from 2012, when everyone crashed) even in times when they had just 2 proper climers in the team and one of them crashed (2010).

Two riders in top10 or one in top5 is what I rate as a good result for them. Hopefully they will keep their promise about being aggresive and this will pay off with some stage wins and maybe a team-classifiacation win.

And Bauer is there, because he is better time-trial rider than Van Summeren, better climber than Rasmussen and is in better shape than Zabriskie.

That, as well as his name. Who in their right mind would want to f@#k with Jack Bauer? :D:cool:
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27 Jun 2013 12:01

Anderis wrote:And Bauer is there, because he is better time-trial rider than Van Summeren, better climber than Rasmussen and is in better shape than Zabriskie.


So, he's basically the perfect mix of Summie and Alex?
And not injured...

42x16ss wrote:That, as well as his name. Who in their right mind would want to f@#k with Jack Bauer? :D:cool:


Exactly! :cool: You don't wanna mess with Jack Bauer!
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27 Jun 2013 14:39

Will Navardauskas contest in the sprints? To me he seems to me like someone who could get in top 15 in the flat sprints, and top 5-10 in the medium mountains stages the first week?


Am I right in my summary=? :)
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