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74ª Volta a Portugal 15/08 to 26/08

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74ª Volta a Portugal 15/08 to 26/08

29 Jul 2012 16:10

This years Volta Route is fairly similar to last years route and once again a bit of a disappointment, the economic crisis in portugal doesn't allow the organizers great adventures into new terrain without getting paid by the host towns. so once again no alto de S. Macário which was tested on the baby volta do futuro (the baby volta) in 2010, on that stage Amaro Antunes, one of biggest portuguese talents which will race his first volta this year at 22 years of age, put 1.47 into every1 attacking from the main group. We also won't see the vuelta heading neither south of lisbon nor to my disappointment to the interior of country in vila real and bragança where they could find some very though terrain like the malhão climb.

anyway onto the route itself: 1 prologue, 1 36k itt, 2 MTF, 1 hill top finish and a couple of tough finishes and the rest are sprint stages.

the profiles of the stages:

Prologue: not much needs to be said about this. . . .
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stage 1: this looks like a fairly good stage that could create some gaps, i doubt the pure sprinters will be there at the end so most likely it will be a Sergio Ribeiro win and yellow for which he will prolly keep until the first MTF.
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stage 2: sprint stage. . . .
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stage 3: it looks like a hill top finish but an easy won so stage number 2 for Serigo Ribeiro? it must be said that this stage goes through my hometown so i will be on the top of the extremo climb with my friends, it must be said that the volta isn't using the terrain available for this stage to it's full potential has before the extremo they already skipped 2( monte faro and bonfim) tougher climbs then the extremo one and after the extremo they skip another 1 . . .
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29 Jul 2012 16:10

Stage 4: First MTF on Monte Farinha and for the second year in a row the lead up to the climb is an utter disappointment :( I bet libertine will be mighty upset when he sees this profile. . . . it will still provide some entertainment ofc as Monte Farinha is a nice climb and if attacked properly it can create some gaps
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stage 5: looks like a very nice stage for a breakaway to succeed, or for efapel glass drive to bring it back and Sergio Ribeiro to get another stage win
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Stage 6: sprint finish so not much to say
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29 Jul 2012 16:10

Stage 7: a hill top finish to sabugal the last 3k profiles aren't available yet so i am not sure how though this one is, but maybe libertine can give me a hand on this one
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Stage 8: The queen stage of the vuelta by far, finishing on the Alto the torre climbed from the toughest side, the seia side. before the reach the torre however they have to climb 2 tough first category climbs, penhas da saude and penhas douradas 2 climbs with no flat in btw them so attack can be made there by the second tier contenders. after those climbs there is a long 40k downhill that leads to the bottom of the torre climb. The climb to the torre is a beast, nearly 30k long it has the steepest sections which reach 17% on the first part of the climb up to the small downhill section. after the downhill section the climb remains steep for 10k before transforming itself into an endless 10k drag to finish at 1.8k meters of altitude which no protection to the wind with constant 5 to 7% gradients. Gaps are always huge on this climbs and any1 on a bad day better be prepared to loose minutes!!!!
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Results from last year when the mighty tavira train made sky look like a bunch of amateurs and put minutes into every1 cept rui sousa who managed to hang on for dear life till the finish where he tried but failed to outsprint Andre Cardoso:

1-André CARDOSO Tavira/Prio 5:28:58
2-Rui SOUSA Barbot/Efapel m.t.
3-Ricardo MESTRE Tavira/Prio a 0:00:03
4-Nelson VITORINO Tavira/Prio a 0:00:14
5-Célio SOUSA ONDA/Boavista a 0:01:47
6-Hernâni BRÔCO LA/Antarte a 0:02:06
7-Delio FERNANDEZ ONDA/Boavista a 0:02:17
8-Francesco GAVAZZI Lampre/ISD a 0:02:40
9-Sergio RIBEIRO Barbot/Efapel a 0:03:25
10-João CABREIRA ONDA/Boavista a 0:03:28

Stage 9: A flat 36k long itt, the pure climbers will have to work hard to defend their hard gained time on the previous days if they want to win the volta.

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Stage 10: Parade into lisbon. . .
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29 Jul 2012 16:10

the team that will show up are:

Carmin-Prio
Efapel-Glassdrive
LA-Antarte
Onda Boavista
Andalucia
Colombia-Coldeportes
Caja Rural
Saur-Sojasun
Unitedhealthcare
Funvic-Pindamonhangaba
Orbea
Burgos BH.Castilla y Leon
Itera-Katusha
Lokosphinx
Team Bonitas
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29 Jul 2012 17:52

Wow, this route makes baby Jesus cry.

Seriously, what the hell is that Senhora da Graça stage? "oh, you know, a climb with comparable grades to Verbier doesn't need any lead-in climbs"... Movistar aren't going to come and bring Rui Costa, guys, they've got to have a set of guys at the Vuelta and another at the other WT events. Bet the top 10 are separated by less than 30 seconds on that.

I'm hoping the Fafe stage can open up a bit of time gaps but I doubt it. Looks no tougher than the stuff Sagan was winning at Le Tour, where it's uphill but still a bunch sprint, not even one where there is a time gap. Sabugal... I'm thinking that last uphill wall that it looks like must be fictitious, due to an admin error when programming those profiles. There's nowhere to put in that kind of climb. Unless they finish in the back end of beyond on the roads out of the town or in one of the outlying villages and call it Sabugal, there's nowhere to put in any real kind of climb actually... maybe some vaguely uphill sprinting terrain in town (on cobbles, no less), but basically like a much less challenging Gouveia finish.

If money's an issue... don't put a goddamn stage finish in Lisboa! Or if you do... put it in Parque Monsanto or something, on the old racing circuit. Make it something other than a waste of a stage.

I agree that Monte Assunção was growing stale (at least being used as the first climb of the race, where it was becoming uphill sprints of bunches of 20 each time)... but when it was used AFTER one of the big climbs, like in 2009, it was way more exciting, with the riders having to make time up, so the likes of Jiménez made it tough racing from the bottom. But removing it and replacing it with nothing? Not convinced. There is no Monte Assunção, nor are there the gradual puncheur finishes in Guarda or Gouveia that so often provide entertaining climaxes. Instead we're given a couple of barely noticeable uphill pimples in Fafe and Sabugal, and no third real tough stage to create any time gaps.

Torre stage should either add the Alto de Gibraltar if it's going the side it is going, or do Piornos from the north down into Covilhã, then Teixeira and Carrazedo before Torre - absolutely no flat from Carrazedo into Seia. I do think that one year, actually, they should go back to what they did in 2008 and put Torre on the first weekend, to try to induce more aggressive racing from the GC guys on Senhora da Graça and whatever medium mountain or puncheur stages they put in.

The Fafe stage could be SO much better than it is. There's a road leading up to the summit of Monte São Salvador, but I don't think there's room at the summit. Nevertheless, even with a flat finish in Fafe, there are lots of medium climbs they could throw in in the late parts of the stage to make it hard to control and create some exciting racing. What I wouldn't give for a climb up to the village of Monte (next to Casal de Estime)(I estimate about 4,5km at about 6%, and about an 11-12km run back into Fafe) in the dying stages.

And now for the positives:
The first road stage. That's really good. That's it.
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29 Jul 2012 19:45

Whoever wins should write a cheque to whichever sadsack failed to give endura a wildcard.

Only suits can deny JTL.

Suits and constant injuries.
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29 Jul 2012 19:50

Waterloo Sunrise wrote:Whoever wins should write a cheque to whichever sadsack failed to give endura a wildcard.

Only suits can deny JTL.

Suits and constant injuries.


i would actually love to see how would JTL go on the portuguese heat against the portuguese domestique scene :o
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29 Jul 2012 20:12

A race that will really benefit from being moved out of competition with the Tour of Poland.
The Hitch: Winner 2013 Vuelta cq game. Winner, Velorooms prediction game 2012, 2013. 2nd all time cq rankings.
The Father of Clean Cycling, Christophe Bassons wrote:When I look at cycling today, I get the impression that history is repeating itself: riders who are supposed to be rouleurs are climbing passes at the front of the race, and those who are supposed to be climbers are riding time trials at more than 50 kilometres per hour.

The story is beginning again, just as it did 14 years ago


journalist with integrity.
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29 Jul 2012 20:26

sergio ribeiro to do better than last year please

nuno to repeat his 2009 win!
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29 Jul 2012 20:33

I feel a Volta Vuelta headache coming on.............
.....never had one, before.
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29 Jul 2012 20:54

aren't they gonna finish later than in spain just like last year?around 6-7 CET for volta finishes to avoid the heat.and the vuelta
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29 Jul 2012 21:16

I must say I would really like David Blanco to take the (5th) win and make history. He had a bumpy ride so far. A lot of talking about joining Carmim-Prio, but that didn't happen for one reason or another. Remember this is the team of last year's winner Ricardo Mestre.

Finally joins Barbot-Efapel. In theory, less of a power struggle. Although were talking about a team which features in its ranks Sérgio Sousa, Rui Sousa, Nuno Ribeiro and Ricardo Vilela. That's some serious firepower right there.

So far, his best results are abroad, with Top 10 at Castilla y Leon and Asturia. He also featured at Troféu Joaquim Agostinho (middle of July), although with a disapointing ride. He was struggling with intest...well, diarrhea.

So what to expect? He has reason to be alert as his teammates were very good at GP Efapel/Glassdrive and could take leadership (Vilela won GC; N. Ribeiro won a stage). But If he's in form and has a commited team around him. In the very least it would make for a nice battle against Mestre.
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29 Jul 2012 21:23

Marco Chagas > David Blanco, so I hope he doesn't get 5.
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29 Jul 2012 21:23

Sorry, I don't see how any thread about an obscenely tarnished race like this should be allowed in the forum. Toss it in the clinic where it belongs.
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29 Jul 2012 21:24

gingerwallaceafro wrote:deleted content


With some dumb three week race in France.
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29 Jul 2012 21:28

Libertine Seguros wrote:With some dumb three week race in France.


Now we're cooking on gas.. The amazing thing about it all Libertine is that it was a triumph for clean cycling.. This and anything else Portuguese to do with cycling is plainly ridiculous. In the clinic please..
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29 Jul 2012 21:45

Gingerwallaceafro's post have been deleted due to heavy doping content and racism.

a 1 week ban will be handed to him
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01 Aug 2012 19:22

We have a startlist. Just click on each team to see who's in. I took the liberty to copy just some of the teams I am looking forward to see perform. Besides the Portuguese Continental of course

Portuguese National Team
41 António Carvalho
42 Rafael Silva
43 André Morato
44 Pedro Paulinho
45 Micael Isidoro
46 Rafael Reis
47 Ricardo Ferreira
48 Bruno Saraiva
49 Rui Vinhas

Burgos-BH-Continental
91 Joni Brandão
92 Moises Dueñas
93 David Garcia
94 Efren Aguilera
95 Nicolas Capdepuy
96 Damien Branaa
97 Francisco Anton
98 Luis Bonet
99 Pablo Muiño

Colombia-Coldeportes
101 Javier Alberto Gonzalez
102 John Darwin Atapuma
103 Juan Pablo Forero
104 Wilson Alexander Marentes
105 Dalivier Ospina
106 Victor Hugo Peña
107 Carlos Julian Quintero
108 Juan Pablo Suarez
109 Duber Armando Quintero

United-HealthCare
121 Marc de Maar
122 Kai Reus
123 Boy Van Poppel
124 Davide Frattini
125 Jonathan Clarke
126 Jason McCartney
127 Bradley White
128 Jay Thomson
129 Adrian Hegyvary

MTN-QHUBEKA
151 Dennis Van Niekerk
152 Jacques Van Rensburg
153 Jaco Venter
154 Meron Rusom Alem
155 Jani Tewelde Weldegabir
156 Tesfay Habtemariam
157 Ferekalsi Debesai
158 Tsgabu Grmay
159 Reinardt Van Rensburg

Personally, the absence of Jordi Simon for Andalucia is a disappointment. Once I knew he wouldn't be doing Vuelta a Espana, I was hoiping we'd be able to see him here. But no luck.

Overall I'm quite happy with the startlist. Two weeks and the show starts.
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01 Aug 2012 19:57

Reis, Atapuma, Brandão, Antunes, Vilela, Paulinho

:drool:

i can't wait to see how the portuguese young guns will fare against the more experienced guys and atapuma who has proven himself competitive at world tour level before
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01 Aug 2012 20:17

Ah, almost forgot to copy Burgos. I was very pleased to see Brandão getting a place at the spanish team. He deserved it after a very active Volta a Portugal last year (at the time, he told the press unless something came up, he would leave cycling due to lack of funds).

For those wondering. Pedro Paulinho is the brother of Sergio (Paulinho) from Saxo-Bank Tinkoff. He has a good sprint, which helped him build a carreer at the espoirs in Portugal. Current U23 Portuguese champion. Internationally, an 8th at GP della Liberazione this year.
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