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Whos the best climber?

Sergio Henao
20
19%
Nairo Quintana
62
60%
Winner Anacona
3
3%
Rigoberto Uràn
6
6%
Darwin Atapuma
3
3%
Carlos Betancur
7
7%
Johan Chaves
2
2%
 
Total votes : 103

"Escarabajos" Who is the best climber?

27 Aug 2012 13:35

Nairo Quintana, Sergio Henao, Darwin Atapuma, Rigoberto Uràn, Carlos Betancur, Winner Anacona or Johan Chaves? Will them be able to assault a GT podium in a nearly future? Sergio, Rigo and Johan, the new "escarabajos", more powerful riders, the two Sky good in the plain. Then the classic climbers, light and explosive guys, Nairo, Carlos and Darwin. Will dominate the Giro D'Italia and Vuelta a España in few years? I wrote somethimg about Carlos Betancur in the spanish forum, at the end of the page: http://forodeciclismo.mforos.mobi/30984/9183788-generacion-88-90-venus-boys/?pag=6 So he's my choice. A rider able to shine in many scenarios.
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27 Aug 2012 13:39

I am not sure about being the best climber but I rate Sergio Henao our best hope for podiums in GT. Maybe Quintana is best pure climber.

In your list you forgot about Fabio Duarte, although his inconsistency is astonishing.
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27 Aug 2012 13:42

Yes but Fabio is 26 years old. I think hes not a the level of the young climbers.
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27 Aug 2012 13:45

Winner Anacona.
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27 Aug 2012 13:47

How big would you say their 'pure' talent is? One might use Rujano as a benchmark.
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27 Aug 2012 13:48

I would say Henao.

Pure talent it's rujano but talent is only a part of what it takes to be a great climb, eg. A Schleck
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27 Aug 2012 13:50

Jason_Mercier wrote:who is the best climber? Nairo Quintana, Sergio Henao, Darwin Atapuma, Rigoberto Uràn, Carlos Betancur or Johan Chaves? Will them be able to assault a GT podium in a nearly future? Sergio, Rigo and Johan, the new "escarabajos", more powerful riders, the two Sky good in the plain. Then the classic climbers, light and explosive guys, Nairo, Carlos and Darwin. Will dominate the Giro D'Italia and Vuelta a España in few years? I wrote somethimg about Carlos Betancur in the spanish forum, at the end of the page: http://forodeciclismo.mforos.mobi/30984/9183788-generacion-88-90-venus-boys/?pag=6 So he's my choice. A rider able to shine in many scenarios.


How did you forget Winner Anacona?

I Believe Quintana is the best pure climber and he definitely should podium GTs in the future.
Betancur and Uran are more suited for the Ardennes and Lombardia.

According to our Colombian expert Ryo, Winner Anacona is a decent TTer and also considering his impressive performances in the Vuelta this year, I think he can podium a GT in the future.
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27 Aug 2012 13:51

Yeah i forget Anacona. Who did a great Giro Bio last year being the best climber of the race. He is doing an amazing Vuelta a España.
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27 Aug 2012 13:53

Jason_Mercier wrote:Yeah i forget Anacona. Who did a great Giro Bio last year being the best climber of the race. He is doing an amazing Vuelta a España.


You should make a poll. Should be interesting.
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27 Aug 2012 13:56

the asian wrote:How did you forget Winner Anacona?

I Believe Quintana is the best pure climber and he definitely should podium GTs in the future.
Betancur and Uran are more suited for the Ardennes and Lombardia.

According to our Colombian expert Ryo, Winner Anacona is a decent TTer and also considering his impressive performances in the Vuelta this year, I think he can podium a GT in the future.


I think Betancur is a Gt rider. He also can do it very well in the Classics but as he showed in Giro Bio or Trentino he is a good climber as well.
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27 Aug 2012 14:00

the asian wrote:According to our Colombian expert Ryo
Is he the forum's official Colombian resident expert? :D

IMO Escarabajo >> Ryo
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27 Aug 2012 14:04

Jason_Mercier wrote:who is the best climber? Nairo Quintana, Sergio Henao, Darwin Atapuma, Rigoberto Uràn, Carlos Betancur, Winner Anacona or Johan Chaves? Will them be able to assault a GT podium in a nearly future? Sergio, Rigo and Johan, the new "escarabajos", more powerful riders, the two Sky good in the plain. Then the classic climbers, light and explosive guys, Nairo, Carlos and Darwin. Will dominate the Giro D'Italia and Vuelta a España in few years? I wrote somethimg about Carlos Betancur in the spanish forum, at the end of the page: http://forodeciclismo.mforos.mobi/30984/9183788-generacion-88-90-venus-boys/?pag=6 So he's my choice. A rider able to shine in many scenarios.


quintana no doubt. he's just behind contador in my book and I hope/expect to see that later in this vuelta.

also nairo and atapuma aren't explosive at all. they are shere power riders. much more than henao and uran who are in fact explosive. betancourt isn't light either. he's incredibly bulky for a climber.

the best climber in colombia btw is probably camargo, but he's not riding in europe. the man is the king of la linea of past years. destroying the likes of atapuma and henao over many minutes.
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27 Aug 2012 14:08

Netserk wrote:How big would you say their 'pure' talent is? One might use Rujano as a benchmark.


quintana has the most talent. I'd say he comes pretty close to rujano, but not quite. he is more allrounded, less vulnerable and has a better mind though for cycling. there is however a huge climbing sensation in colombian juniors. miguel angel lopez. he is the most talented (colombian) rider I've ever seen. he is also from boyaca, but comes from mtb and is much more allround. technical, explosive. all we have top hope for is that he finds some good team next year. in past 2 years he's been destroying every race in climbing by minutes. even in flat itt's he beats the likes of jordan parra, who is a world junior trackchampion some days ago
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27 Aug 2012 14:10

SO difficult because all of them have performances that make you think - he is the brightest prospect, until you look at the next one.

the logical answer is quintana, one of the youngest and already some insane mountain performances on the mountain stages, especially that one where it was like 5 minutes to 3rd place or whatever.

but i prefer to go left field all throw chips into the corner of Betancur.

To come 4th, on the colle delle finnestrre stage, at age 21, in a pace that was high enough to drop Nibali, that is up there with what any of them have done on a gt level imo

People say he is more explosive, might end up more of a classics rider, but even today the best hill explosive guys are among the best gt contenders - Nibali, Rodriguez, Hejsedal.

Because he is not always up there in the mountains, but shows talent there on occasion, and that he does so well in 1 day races and short punchy climbs, i think that as he grows older, and begins to focus seasons around a gt and everything that comes with that, he will shine the brightest.
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27 Aug 2012 14:11

cineteq wrote:Is he the forum's official Colombian resident expert? :D

IMO Escarabajo >> Ryo


Agreed.

I'd rather say Ryo is the forum's official.... wait. I shouldn't do this.
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27 Aug 2012 14:11

the asian wrote:How did you forget Winner Anacona?

I Believe Quintana is the best pure climber and he definitely should podium GTs in the future.
Betancur and Uran are more suited for the Ardennes and Lombardia.

According to our Colombian expert Ryo, Winner Anacona is a decent TTer and also considering his impressive performances in the Vuelta this year, I think he can podium a GT in the future.


winner anacona in his baby giro 2 years ago was beaten in a similar itt by a few seconds by tom dumoulin. he's very good and comes from track as a junior. I can se ehim do a very good itt wednesday
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27 Aug 2012 14:12

Quintana...but best GC hope is Anacona cos ITT.
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Ryo Hazuki in August 2013 wrote:what? quintana is already better climber than froome. see final stages of the tour and he's only 23. quintana is the best climber I've sene since pantani. he will become a legend
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27 Aug 2012 14:12

Jason_Mercier wrote:Yeah i forget Anacona. Who did a great Giro Bio last year being the best climber of the race. He is doing an amazing Vuelta a España.


also in 2010 he was great. he was third spot until final flat stage when he had a crash and lost lots of time. otherwise colombia had swept that entire podium.
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27 Aug 2012 14:14

ILovecycling wrote:Quintana...but best GC hope is Anacona cos ITT.


quintana's itt is quite good too. and will only improve. I don't see it much of an acchilesheel for him in gt's.
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27 Aug 2012 14:15

Yes. Quintana and Atapuma arent explosive at all. But i didnt find the word. My english is very bad. I try it :D
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