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Whos the best climber?

Sergio Henao
20
19%
Nairo Quintana
62
60%
Winner Anacona
3
3%
Rigoberto Uràn
6
6%
Darwin Atapuma
3
3%
Carlos Betancur
7
7%
Johan Chaves
2
2%
 
Total votes : 103

14 Sep 2012 13:05

Jason_Mercier wrote:I think is possible. We would need to see the riders who would participate. Next year probably Hesjedal will want win one more time, the Ag2r squad with Pozzovivo and Betancur, Movistar with Quintana and maybe Evans, Nibali or Fuglsang.

I think Quintana will be at the Tour with Valverde next year, providing it is reasonably mountainous. That's what Unzue indicated during the Vuelta. Capecchi, Szmyd and Visconti will head their Giro line-up I would guess.
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14 Sep 2012 13:21

Duartista wrote:I think Quintana will be at the Tour with Valverde next year, providing it is reasonably mountainous. That's what Unzue indicated during the Vuelta. Capecchi, Szmyd and Visconti will head their Giro line-up I would guess.


Yes, i had forgot the two ex Liquigas. Probably Movistar signed them for the Italian calendar. The TDF is too hard for Quintana yet IMO. He suffered with the rhytm of the first week of the Vuelta, (said by him) also fell many times. I want to know what think Ryo about this.
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14 Sep 2012 13:28

Duartista wrote:I think Quintana will be at the Tour with Valverde next year, providing it is reasonably mountainous. That's what Unzue indicated during the Vuelta. Capecchi, Szmyd and Visconti will head their Giro line-up I would guess.


yes I would think so too. quintana a protected man among valverde next year in the tour. giro could be cobo
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14 Sep 2012 13:30

Jason_Mercier wrote:Yes, i had forgot the two ex Liquigas. Probably Movistar signed them for the Italian calendar. The TDF is too hard for Quintana yet IMO. He suffered with the rhytm of the first week of the Vuelta, (said by him) also fell many times. I want to know what think Ryo about this.


he suffered in the vuelta because of the incredible heat in the first week. he had only 1 racingday prior to the vuelta and he had been trianing in cold boyaca for months. next year he should come back for route du sud and then tour. tour is usually hot too. still he improved so much his skills in flat this year that next year I don't see too many problems. his real problem with first week suffering is that he has problems placing himself well in a peloton, he needs helpers for that. and he didn't crash anytime in this vuelta except in last few days
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14 Sep 2012 19:05

Quintana by a country mile as a pure climber. Able to stay with the best in the last week of the vuelta when noone else could, and kept for the last week by movistar. for gc its henao
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15 Sep 2012 08:53

Ryo Hazuki wrote:he suffered in the vuelta because of the incredible heat in the first week. he had only 1 racingday prior to the vuelta and he had been trianing in cold boyaca for months. next year he should come back for route du sud and then tour. tour is usually hot too. still he improved so much his skills in flat this year that next year I don't see too many problems. his real problem with first week suffering is that he has problems placing himself well in a peloton, he needs helpers for that. and he didn't crash anytime in this vuelta except in last few days


When you consider how Movistar seemed to screw around with Quintana's race program (dropping him from the Giro last minute etc, going to the Vuelta with little racing), he's had a hell of a season.
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21 Nov 2012 15:23

If Coldeportes is invited to the Giro how would be the nine? Maybe something like this? Atapuma, Chaves, Duarte, Chalapud, Pantano, Suarez, Valencia... ?¿ Wait for your answer Ryo.
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21 Nov 2012 15:33

they need some freaking european big guy rouleurs....weren't they supposed to sign? if they will go only for stage wins it's ok though
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21 Nov 2012 17:38

noddy69 wrote:Quintana by a country mile as a pure climber. Able to stay with the best in the last week of the vuelta when noone else could, and kept for the last week by movistar. for gc its henao


A bit early to compare really. They have both only done 1 GT and Henao had a semi free role where Quintana was sacrificed for valverde.
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21 Nov 2012 17:48

uphillstruggle wrote:A bit early to compare really. They have both only done 1 GT and Henao had a semi free role where Quintana was sacrificed for valverde.


And Henao wasn't sacrificed for Froome at Vuelta ?

Henao also did Giro this year ( 2 GT's ), where he got 9th place ;)
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21 Nov 2012 18:15

Jason_Mercier wrote:Atapuma, Chaves, Duarte, Chalapud, Pantano, Suarez, Valencia...



With this team they're going to get less Top 10 placings as NetApp this year. ;)
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21 Nov 2012 19:40

Bye Bye Bicycle wrote:With this team they're going to get less Top 10 placings as NetApp this year. ;)


These are the better riders they have. First 5 secure. And IMO with that team they could win one or two stages, fight for the mountain jersey and aim a Top10 in the final GC.
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21 Nov 2012 20:13

jens_attacks wrote:they need some freaking european big guy rouleurs....weren't they supposed to sign? if they will go only for stage wins it's ok though


only if big opportunites for them would rise, but name me anyone without a contract. they better stick to colombians. they also have good rouleurs, although not in coldeportes
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21 Nov 2012 20:14

Jason_Mercier wrote:These are the better riders they have. First 5 secure. And IMO with that team they could win one or two stages, fight for the mountain jersey and aim a Top10 in the final GC.


never mind. he's trolling
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21 Nov 2012 22:11

The long-awaited moment has finally come, and the*100th Tour de France’s*route was unveiled to the World by Director*Christian Prudhomme*in a ceremony held in Paris on Wednesday October 24th.
The centenary edition of theGrande Boucle*will take place from*June 29th to July 21st, 2013, and will start from Corsica for the very first time in its long and illustrious history: 21 stages and 3.479 kilometres (90 against the clock) expect the riders, while six high-mountain stages – including four uphill finishes – are set to shape the final overall classification.
Colombia Coldeportes*General Manager*Claudio Corti*attended the ceremony with Sports Director*Valerio Tebaldi*and rider*Esteban Chaves, who first showed his amazing talent in an ASO race – the*Tour de l’Avenir*– back in 2011. Warmly welcomed by Director Prudhomme, Corti and Chaves expressed very positive feedbacks on 2013 Tour de France, that will definitely suit climbers much more than in the near past.
“The route is great*– General Manager Corti stated –*everything seems in place for a great show. Four uphill finishes and plenty of other big mountains will give climbers the chance to shine, and “grimpeurs” like ours could play a big part in 2013 Tour’s plot. Should we be at the start in Corsica, we will go for every opportunity.”

The presentation gave Esteban Chaves a first taste of what the Grande Boucle is all about. The exciting Colombian prospect carefully observed the profile of the toughest stages of the race, but one made his eyes shine in delight: “The 18th stage features two climbs up theAlpe d’Huez, one of the mythical climbs of the Tour de France. The stage is not very long (168 km), but it will definitely be long and testing, coming in the final part of the race: I dream of taking part to this race, hopefully we will manage to deserve ASO’s trust.”
Just more than 5 years ago, in 2007,*Juan Mauricio Soler*delighted Colombian fans by winning a Tour de France stage in Briançon and clinching the illustrious polka-dot jersey. Just behind him, in the team car, sat Claudio Corti and Valerio Tebaldi: will they be part of the next Colombian dream?
Photo: Claudio Corti and Esteban Chaves with Tour de France Director Christian Prudhomme
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22 Nov 2012 13:17

Gloin22 wrote:And Henao wasn't sacrificed for Froome at Vuelta ?

Henao also did Giro this year ( 2 GT's ), where he got 9th place ;)


Yeah I forgot about him doing the Vuelta:o 9th is a good result as a domestique but the stage where Valverde was gapped by Sky after the crash Quintana burnt a lot of energy trying to get Valverde back on. He also went up the road a lot waiting for Val, this burns more energy than riding tempo.

Quitana has shown that he can mix it with the top climbers and even attack them. With Henao it looked more like he was just about managing to stay with the other climbers (this being a tried and tested way of placing well, but never winning stage races). For me, if Quintana can develop some consistency (It's just too early to tell if he has it for GT's) his ability is good enough to place him highly is stage races.
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22 Nov 2012 18:22

What about Argiro Ospina, riding for Movistar next year, he any good?
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22 Nov 2012 18:30

Maaaaaaaarten wrote:What about Argiro Ospina, riding for Movistar next year, he any good?


he's the best u23 rider in colombia. of or near the level of quintana I'd say. although somewhat different type of rider. more explosive and also bigger. he's only been riding since a few years and already this past rcn proved to be the best climber in the entire field. beter even than his leader cano. so he should have quite some margin left still.
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22 Nov 2012 18:53

Great, another climber who might turn out to be the level of Quintana is very welcome as far as I'm concerned. :)

Any other new Colombians in Europe this year?
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