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Vuelta 2012, Stage 16: Gijón > Cuitu Nigru (183,5 kms)

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02 Sep 2012 17:06

cineteq wrote:All he has to do is have Saxo push the pace until the last 5km, and then do one big attack and sustain it, and he'll win La Vuelta. As simple as that.


Yes, he still has 2 chances to make a gap of 20,30 seconds.
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02 Sep 2012 17:11

If Saxo Bank put a superhigh rhytm in San Lorenzo and Cobertoria only saving Majka for the final climb and then Contador attack for a medium distance Purito will crack. Except the three final kilometres Cuitu its a Contador climb, but he needs to tougher the race since San Lorenzo, put Purito in a real effort of more than a half hour.
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02 Sep 2012 17:25

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Gilbert's family from Spain.
Ryo Hazuki wrote:horrible. boonen just the same guy as years before and this course is too hard for him. that's why he rode like a coward there were at least 3 guys stronger than boonen today and none of them won: sagan, ballan, pozzato


The Hitch wrote:Goss will woop boonens candy a[color="Black"]ss[/color] in a sprint he cares about, any day of the week
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02 Sep 2012 17:27

Tail wind tomorrow in the last climb. This will ease any attemp to ride tempo, as Pajares is almost a motorway and is very exposed to wind.

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Like Covadonga, Pajares-CuituNigru has two downhill sections, although they are a bit further from the finish. It's either attack with 4kms to the summit of Pajares or wait to the final ramp.

Unlike Bola del Mundo, the tarmac here is new (works finished 10 days ago) and in good condition. But that means nobody has done it on a road bike in reconaissance rides. Let's see if anyone makes a mistake with their gear selection.
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02 Sep 2012 17:42

Contador needs to start his stinging attacks much earlier, but the climb doesn't lend itself to such a tactic.
Too many lengthy, flatter sections for recuperation.
Anyhow, another session of track stands and sprints, tomorrow.
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02 Sep 2012 17:45

Mellow Velo wrote:Contador needs to start his stinging attacks much earlier, but the climb doesn't lend itself to such a tactic.
Too many lengthy, flatter sections for recuperation.
Anyhow, another session of track stands and sprints, tomorrow.


He needs to send all his good team mates on the climb before the final MTF. And perhaps try an attack at the final part of that climb(don't know the name of it).

Jrod isn't a very good descender from what I've seen of him in the past. Maybe Contador should try and put the pressure on him there. It's how Eddy Merckx won the Tour in 1971. It was raining that day however. ;)
Ryo Hazuki wrote:horrible. boonen just the same guy as years before and this course is too hard for him. that's why he rode like a coward there were at least 3 guys stronger than boonen today and none of them won: sagan, ballan, pozzato


The Hitch wrote:Goss will woop boonens candy a[color="Black"]ss[/color] in a sprint he cares about, any day of the week
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02 Sep 2012 17:50

El Pistolero wrote:He needs to send all his good team mates on the climb before the final MTF. And perhaps try an attack at the final part of that climb(don't know the name of it).

Jrod isn't a very good descender from what I've seen of him in the past. Maybe Contador should try and put the pressure on him there. It's how Eddy Merckx won the Tour in 1971. It was raining that day however. ;)


And we need a Dutch to fall on top of Purito :D
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02 Sep 2012 17:53

icefire wrote:And we need a Dutch to fall on top of Purito :D


I was thinking about Noval actually. :D
Ryo Hazuki wrote:horrible. boonen just the same guy as years before and this course is too hard for him. that's why he rode like a coward there were at least 3 guys stronger than boonen today and none of them won: sagan, ballan, pozzato


The Hitch wrote:Goss will woop boonens candy a[color="Black"]ss[/color] in a sprint he cares about, any day of the week
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02 Sep 2012 17:57

El Pistolero wrote:I was thinking about Noval actually. :D


No, no, it has to be Dutch, tall, slim and from a different team. We all know someone that fits that role :D
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02 Sep 2012 17:58

icefire wrote:No, no, it has to be Dutch, tall, slim and from a different team. We all know someone that fits that role :D


But is Gesink heavy enough? :p
Ryo Hazuki wrote:horrible. boonen just the same guy as years before and this course is too hard for him. that's why he rode like a coward there were at least 3 guys stronger than boonen today and none of them won: sagan, ballan, pozzato


The Hitch wrote:Goss will woop boonens candy a[color="Black"]ss[/color] in a sprint he cares about, any day of the week
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02 Sep 2012 18:02

Let's first hope, Bertie is felling superb tomorrow. Other wise all these attacks hope will be a mood point since he'll be hanging for dear life not to get dropped. *ah I got a glimpse of him loosing contact on mountain stage 2011 TDF* … wuffh…not a pretty picture.
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02 Sep 2012 18:07

El Pistolero wrote:But is Gesink heavy enough? :p

The pin in his leg will be enough...
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02 Sep 2012 18:09

Jelantik wrote:Let's first hope, Bertie is felling superb tomorrow. Other wise all these attacks hope will be a mood point since he'll be hanging for dear life not to get dropped. *ah I got a glimpse of him loosing contact on mountain stage 2011 TDF* … wuffh…not a pretty picture.


Purito needs to attack for that to happen. It won't happen.
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02 Sep 2012 18:17

I've just booked tomorrrow off as a holiday to watch this (more honest than sitting all afternoon on the internet), so it is going to be fireworks from the off;)
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02 Sep 2012 18:19

icefire wrote:Purito needs to attack for that to happen. It won't happen.



True, Purito has no reason to attack....he need only respond.

IMO the only one who can crack Alberto, is Alberto by trying to hard...it is possible he would do that on Bola de Mundo if he is still not in red. He'd have nothing to lose....2nd means little to him.
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02 Sep 2012 18:22

El Pistolero wrote:He needs to send all his good team mates on the climb before the final MTF. And perhaps try an attack at the final part of that climb(don't know the name of it).

Jrod isn't a very good descender from what I've seen of him in the past. Maybe Contador should try and put the pressure on him there. It's how Eddy Merckx won the Tour in 1971. It was raining that day however. ;)


I agreed, but I can't see that happening, can you?

Seems like JRod having his normal, one bad mountain day per GT, is a thing of the past.

Anyone who thought he'd peaked for the Giro, think again.
He's done a Wiggins and is a whole level above his May form.
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02 Sep 2012 18:45

why such a stage on a monday! :(:(:(
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02 Sep 2012 19:01

Well, La Vuelta is here in Gijón, the place where I live. In fact, the stage starts 200 metres far from my house. :D

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I would like to make some things clear about the stage.

First, San Lorenzo is not a First Category climb as Unpublic suggest. San Lorenzo is a climb of Special Category (HC). As you can see:

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Cobertoria is a climb of First Category but a really hard one.

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02 Sep 2012 19:01

And take a look to the other side of the climb going to Pola de Lena. The downhill will be very fast and it starts more or less on the place wich says "desvio":

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And then Cuitu Negru:

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02 Sep 2012 19:03

Mellow Velo wrote:I agreed, but I can't see that happening, can you?



If it was anyone other than Contador not really no. But this is Contador we're talking about. ;)

A snake might be dangerous, but a snake driven into a corner with only one way out is much more dangerous. ;)
Ryo Hazuki wrote:horrible. boonen just the same guy as years before and this course is too hard for him. that's why he rode like a coward there were at least 3 guys stronger than boonen today and none of them won: sagan, ballan, pozzato


The Hitch wrote:Goss will woop boonens candy a[color="Black"]ss[/color] in a sprint he cares about, any day of the week
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