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2013 Road World Championships: Men's Road Race, Lucca-Firenze 272.2 km

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21 Sep 2012 14:58

airstream wrote:usual course. they'd better include some hill straight on the finish, but apparently it doesn't match wc course policy :(


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21 Sep 2012 14:58

Netserk wrote:I think it will either be solo, or a group of 3-10.


That's okay, you can think so :)
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21 Sep 2012 14:58

LaFlorecita wrote:I don't think it's that special apart from the length. It will probably be a group of 10-20 riders sprinting for the win.


when you think more idiot posts aren't possible in this topic, you read this...
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21 Sep 2012 14:59

Ryo Hazuki wrote:when you think more idiot posts aren't possible in this topic, you read this...


:D.............
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21 Sep 2012 15:00

It's not bad, I just expected more.
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21 Sep 2012 15:02

LaFlorecita wrote:It's not bad, I just expected more.


for **** sake a climb that is 4.5 km at 6% average and a climb of 1.5 km with maximum 12% on a 15 km course. there is only climbing and downhilling :rolleyes: what more do you want??
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21 Sep 2012 15:04

Ryo Hazuki wrote:for **** sake a climb that is 4.5 km at 6% average and a climb of 1.5 km with maximum 12% on a 15 km course. there is only climbing and downhilling :rolleyes: what more do you want??


More, better, harder.
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21 Sep 2012 15:05

unless a wc goes to colombia again we won't see a harder course than this. this at least on paper looks the hardest course since 1995 duitama
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21 Sep 2012 15:06

LaFlorecita wrote:More, better, harder.


I'm pretty sure you haven't seen a harder WC in your life. Unless you're older than I thought.
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21 Sep 2012 15:07

LaFlorecita wrote::rolleyes: 1.5 km 7.5% average :rolleyes: Still not very hard :rolleyes:


have you even looked at the freaking profile or just because the finishing line is after 20k of uphill and your beloved alberto has lower chances of winning you automatic thought it was a bad route?

where do you see a 1.5k long climb there?

it has several tough climbs on the first 100+k and on the circuit it has a nearly 5k long climb with 6% avg with the last 2k at nearly 8% and 2 small hills with % up to 15%, and that circuit will be ridden 10 times!!!!

besides i didn't line Copenhagen why would i like a similar course with the only difference being that the sprint would be uphill instead of flat?
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21 Sep 2012 15:08

Looks like a bit like LBL only with the hills closer to the final. Should be interesting. We don't need a harder WC. Climbers already have 3 GTs. This is a race where both climbers and puncheurs can compete, as it should be.
Ryo Hazuki wrote:horrible. boonen just the same guy as years before and this course is too hard for him. that's why he rode like a coward there were at least 3 guys stronger than boonen today and none of them won: sagan, ballan, pozzato


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21 Sep 2012 15:08

Parrulo wrote:have you even looked at the freaking profile or just because the finishing line is after 20k of uphill and your beloved alberto has lower chances of winning you automatic thought it was a bad route?

where do you see a 1.5k long climb there?

it has several tough climbs on the first 100+k and on the circuit it has a nearly 5k long climb with 6% avg with the last 2k at nearly 8% and 2 small hills with % up to 15%, and that circuit will be ridden 10 times!!!!

besides i didn't line Copenhagen why would i like a similar course with the only difference being that the sprint would be uphill instead of flat?


Oops I ****ed off the mod I see
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21 Sep 2012 15:10

SafeBet wrote:I'm pretty sure you haven't seen a harder WC in your life. Unless you're older than I thought.


Last year's was the first actually. So you're right.
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21 Sep 2012 15:13

LaFlorecita wrote:Oops I ****ed off the mod I see


you didn't ****ed me off, your irrationality is just annoying.
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21 Sep 2012 15:13

LaFlorecita wrote:Last year's was the first actually. So you're right.
Then your comment that is not hard enough doesn't make sense. :rolleyes:

El Pistolero wrote:This is a race where both climbers and puncheurs can compete, as it should be.
That resonates which what I'd like to see. +1 :)
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21 Sep 2012 15:15

I tried to do the route:

http://tracks4bikers.com/tracks/show/111969

the last little climb doesn't appear, but the rest is quite right.
A race that doesn't give an attacker the chance to finish it off alone is not a race anymore.


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21 Sep 2012 15:15

Anyway, Strade Bianche would have been cooler though.
Ryo Hazuki wrote:horrible. boonen just the same guy as years before and this course is too hard for him. that's why he rode like a coward there were at least 3 guys stronger than boonen today and none of them won: sagan, ballan, pozzato


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21 Sep 2012 15:16

Parrulo wrote:you didn't ****ed me off, your irrationality is just annoying.


I'm sorry I prefer a harder course.
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21 Sep 2012 15:18

cineteq wrote:Then your comment that is not hard enough doesn't make sense. :rolleyes:


Why? I'm not saying it's bad. I'm just saying it doesn't seem very special.
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21 Sep 2012 15:18

Lets.not.forget 3 laps of this will also be in the giro. Shall be an epic stage.

And at worlds will love to see climbers teams try to hammer the fiesole ascents to try to shake of the likes of Gilbert and cancellara.
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