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2013 Road World Championships: Men's Road Race, Lucca-Firenze 272.2 km

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21 Sep 2012 15:21

El Pistolero wrote:Looks like a bit like LBL only with the hills closer to the final. Should be interesting. We don't need a harder WC. Climbers already have 3 GTs. This is a race where both climbers and puncheurs can compete, as it should be.


it does look like LBL, perhaps a bit tougher, with the downhill section (hopefully it technical) and 2 short steep climbs after the main climb it should make for some very interesting racing because with the flat finish if a guy like phill or sagan reaches it with the pure climbers it will be game over for all of them.

LaFlorecita wrote:I'm sorry I prefer a harder course.


then prepare for a life of disappointing courses as this is as tough as it gets when it comes to WC, last 1 as hard as this has to be duitama.
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21 Sep 2012 15:21

The Hitch wrote:Lets.not.forget 3 laps of this will also be in the giro. Shall be an epic stage.

yes :D:D (10c)
A race that doesn't give an attacker the chance to finish it off alone is not a race anymore.


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21 Sep 2012 15:21

Eshnar wrote:I tried to do the route:

http://tracks4bikers.com/tracks/show/111969

the last little climb doesn't appear, but the rest is quite right.

The last kms are wrong though. I'm also trying to map it atm..

Otherwise nice job :)

EDIT: I meant the first kms...
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21 Sep 2012 15:22

The Hitch wrote:Lets.not.forget 3 laps of this will also be in the giro. Shall be an epic stage.

And at worlds will love to see climbers teams try to hammer the fiesole ascents to try to shake of the likes of Gilbert and cancellara.


indeed that part should be awesome.
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21 Sep 2012 15:23

LaFlorecita wrote:Why? I'm not saying it's bad. I'm just saying it doesn't seem very special.


and you've only seen once wc in your entire life :o it's better to stay silent
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21 Sep 2012 15:24

Netserk wrote:The last kms are wrong though. I'm also trying to map it atm..

Otherwise nice job :)

EDIT: I meant the first kms...

keep in mind that the route posted here before is wrong, riders will go in the opposite direction.
A race that doesn't give an attacker the chance to finish it off alone is not a race anymore.


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21 Sep 2012 15:25

Eshnar wrote:keep in mind that the route posted here before is wrong, riders will go in the opposite direction.


oh dear...

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21 Sep 2012 15:25

I find it hard to believe that you could get a harder circuit than this. You could have a harder race, but not a much harder circuit. I think I am going to visit Florence next autumn.
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21 Sep 2012 15:28

Parrulo wrote:it does look like LBL, perhaps a bit tougher, with the downhill section (hopefully it technical) and 2 short steep climbs after the main climb it should make for some very interesting racing because with the flat finish if a guy like phill or sagan reaches it with the pure climbers it will be game over for all of them.
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km mark Name Distance Slope
57.7 Côte de Ny' 1.8 km 5.7 %
82.0 Côte de la Roche-en-Ardenne 2.8 km 4.9 %
128.0 Côte de Saint-Roch 0.8 km 12.0 %
172.0 Côte de Wanne 2.7 km 7.0 %
178.5 Côte de Stockeu 1.1 km 10.5 %
184.0 Côte de la Haute-Levée 3.4 km 6.0 %
196.5 Côte du Rosier 4.0 km 5.9 %
209.0 Côte de la Vecquée 3.1 km 5.9 %
226.5 Côte de la Redoute 2.1 km 8.4 %
241.5 Côte de la Roche aux Faucons 1.5 km 9.9 %
255.5 Côte de Saint-Nicolas 1.0 km 11.1%

Seems pretty similar to me, a bit tougher indeed, but I'm not too familiar with the hills of this WC.
Ryo Hazuki wrote:horrible. boonen just the same guy as years before and this course is too hard for him. that's why he rode like a coward there were at least 3 guys stronger than boonen today and none of them won: sagan, ballan, pozzato


The Hitch wrote:Goss will woop boonens candy a[color="Black"]ss[/color] in a sprint he cares about, any day of the week
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21 Sep 2012 15:28

Ryo Hazuki wrote:Image

nice pic this one :D
Will be useful.
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21 Sep 2012 15:28

Eshnar wrote:keep in mind that the route posted here before is wrong, riders will go in the opposite direction.

yea I found that out. On the picture of the loop, it looks like they go clockwise, when the profile shows the course counter-clockwise.

This is my try :):
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21 Sep 2012 15:29

Parrulo wrote:then prepare for a life of disappointing courses as this is as tough as it gets when it comes to WC, last 1 as hard as this has to be duitama.


Oh okay I will keep that in mind.
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21 Sep 2012 15:29

Netserk wrote:yea I found that out. On the picture of the loop, it looks like they go clockwise, when the profile shows the course counter-clockwise.

This is my try :):
Image

that's right imo. You just cut down the start which I didn't for laziness.
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21 Sep 2012 15:31

Ryo Hazuki wrote:and you've only seen once wc in your entire life :o it's better to stay silent


Maybe my expectations are too high but I heard everyone talking about the 2013 WC that would be perfect for climbers and this isn't what I'd expected when I heard "perfect for climbers".
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21 Sep 2012 15:31

chapeau to the organizers!!!probably zomegnan had a big impact here

that's a helluva route :) 280 kms,very very hard circuit.it will be a massacre out there,one of the climbers will win this one
i like the time trial too.
they really earned their money with this one


*-sadly, this could have been perfect for di luca :( god damn you di rocco
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21 Sep 2012 15:31

Eshnar wrote:nice pic this one :D
Will be useful.


lol. I thought you meant toi say that the original profile was being done the other way around
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21 Sep 2012 15:32

Eshnar wrote:that's right imo. You just cut down the start which I didn't for laziness.

there's also a difference towards the end after the last climb.

http://www.tracks4bikers.com/tracks/show/111974
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21 Sep 2012 15:32

LaFlorecita wrote:Maybe my expectations are too high but I heard everyone talking about the 2013 WC that would be perfect for climbers and this isn't what I'd expected when I heard "perfect for climbers".


there is never a wc with climbs longfer than 4.5 km. I never ever remember
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21 Sep 2012 15:37

Ryo Hazuki wrote:there is never a wc with climbs longfer than 4.5 km. I never ever remember


I didn't know that. I guess this is as hards as it gets. That's probably why everyone's so excited.
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21 Sep 2012 15:37

jens_attacks wrote:chapeau to the organizers!!!probably zomegnan had a big impact here

that's a helluva route :) 280 kms,very very hard circuit.it will be a massacre out there,one of the climbers will win this one
i like the time trial too.
they really earned their money with this one


*-sadly, this could have been perfect for di luca :( god damn you di rocco


Where's the profile? missed that one.
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