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Dede Barry

10 Oct 2012 21:02

It is great to see that Michael Barry is owning up to his past and seeks our forgiveness.
“I apologize to those I deceived. I will accept my suspension and any other consequences. I will work hard to regain people’s trust.”

His wife came out of nowhere in 2004 to gain 2nd place in the Olympic TT, in a stunning time, 2nd only to an unbelievable ride by Leontin van Morsel.

If you look at the palmares of Dede e.g. at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dede_Barry the factual trail is that 2002, 2003 and 2004 gave no witness whatsoever that Dede would ride the socks off so many others in the peloton at Athens.

Dede - keeping your powder dry ? Putting the opposition off the scent ?

Michael here is a big moment. You want our forgiveness, because you are now "born again" and speak only the truth in the era of the new dawn.

Or are you a lying toady just trying to say the bare minimum to save your skin when dragged kicking and screaming into court. You have utter contempt for the fans and will bull***t them with whatever you think you can get away with.

Oh how could you suggest such a thing - nasty Freddy ?

Michael, invite Mrs Barry to join you on your lovely new soapbox where you support "truth and reconciliation and a new future for all". While you were juicing it up to the eyeballs, was the Mrs sitting on the side saying "tut, tut, don't do that you naughty boy - look, I can go from zero to hero on orange juice and mom's apple pie - just you watch". "Oh dear, only 2nd, that wonderful Leontin is sooooooo good."
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10 Oct 2012 21:19

never mind
Do you want to watch better bike racing? => Team radios (not race radio) must go!
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meanwhile at another husband/wife double act -

10 Oct 2012 21:25

How is the Longo/Ciprelli case doing ?

enter scene left - worried wife takes knob of un-melted butter out of mouth and says - "Nasty hubster Patrice buying all that dope off evil Joe Papp whilst I am trying to earn a living riding clean. It is so much effort trying to do the best for the household with hubby spending so much on 5 years supply of epo for himself. He told me he was buying for the mother in law of Raimondus Rumsas now the evil boy was no longer looking out for his aged relative !"
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Cycling Canada have to decide

11 Oct 2012 00:12

are they as bad as the rest and will turn over the page and "forget".

http://blogs.wsj.com/dailyfix/2012/10/10/live-blog-lance-armstrong-report/


10:54 pm
Zabriskie affidavit
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According to his affidavit, Zabriskie felt cornered but eventually decided to take EPO. Dr. del Moral injected both Zabriskie and Barry. Bruyneel said that if someone came to the door of the apartment after they used EPO, they should not answer the door. Bruyneel and del Moral also left a box of testosterone patches, saying EPO worked best when taken with testosterone. Afterward, Barry, Zabriskie and [color="Red"]Barry’s wife Dede discussed EPO and justified using it because of its “wide use in the peloton.”[/color]

Looks like that is a slam dunk.

Cycling Canada have you got a spine ? I see on your web site the logo is "Race clean own your own victory"
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11 Oct 2012 00:18

Freddythefrog wrote:
Cycling Canada have you got a spine ?


It's been over 8 years. By a few hours.
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11 Oct 2012 02:30

Freddythefrog wrote:
Cycling Canada have you got a spine ? I see on your web site the logo is "Race clean own your own victory"


Dede Barry is American.
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11 Oct 2012 04:27

shalgo wrote:Dede Barry is American.


Which, unfortunately, is almost certainly the Cycling Canada line.

...we are such a small cycling nation... ...please don't hurt us... cycling is cleaner now...

Embarrassing.

Thank you Michael Barry. I am tired of all of the pretending within this country - especially by those who damn well know what is going on.

Like, it is too cold for our cyclists to think of PEDs?

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11 Oct 2012 05:15

Wonder what, if anything, Armstrong told Dede? After all Armstrong does have a way of sending subtle threatening messages to the wives and family members of other riders. Just ask Levi.
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11 Oct 2012 17:41

Freddythefrog wrote:are they as bad as the rest and will turn over the page and "forget".


Cycling Canada have you got a spine ? I see on your web site the logo is "Race clean own your own victory"


thanks Shalgo !

My mistake - what an idiot - of course - nothing to do with Canada. So USADA have jurisdiction and just as they extended back with Lance they can do the same for Dede.
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11 Oct 2012 17:49

Freddythefrog wrote:
My mistake - what an idiot - of course - nothing to do with Canada. So USADA have jurisdiction and just as they extended back with Lance they can do the same for Dede.


Read this

http://d3epuodzu3wuis.cloudfront.net/ReasonedDecision.pdf

and then explain why Dede's case should be extended back as was Lance's.
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11 Oct 2012 18:34

How about - because she stole others livelihood and earnings ? Not good enough for you ?
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11 Oct 2012 19:40

Freddythefrog wrote:How about - because she stole others livelihood and earnings ? Not good enough for you ?


It doesn't matter if it's 'good enough' for us random forum members or not. I believe the Reasoned Decision made it pretty clear that the only way to extend the statute of limitations is to show evidence that the accused took steps to obscure the evidence so as to delay it long enough that it wouldn't come out (eg. lance intimidating witnesses) before the statute of limitations was up. It also made it clear that anecdotal/circumstantial evidence wouldn't be good enough unless it came from numerous sources (such as 11 former USPS riders, various Ferrari clients, etc). I don't see any of that happening in Dede Barry's case - even if she doped alot, it is possible that it was not as obvious as Armstrong, and therefore there are few to no witnesses. And I would assume she didn't have to take steps to cover up evidence coming out, because no one was trying to out her. So the 8 year statute would apply.
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11 Oct 2012 23:19

After the Landis shoe dropped (where he accused Mike of dopping), she lost her sh*t. Called it 'defamation', etc and was spouting off about a possible law suit.

If memory serves, she had her brightest days at Saturn. All under the tutelage of Mr. Wenzel - and we all know his palmares...

Hey, Dede, STF!
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11 Oct 2012 23:56

" 'It’s complete defamation is what it is,' said Demet from their home in Girona, Spain. 'And it’s really, really hurtful, especially for someone like Michael, who’s been in the sport for as many years as he has and he’s always done the best he can do to be ethical and to do things the right way on every level. That’s what makes it especially hurtful. You can’t really take it back when your name is smeared in the press.'”

http://veloptimum.net/velonouvelles/10/ART/5mai/TorontoStar20B.htm

So, it would appear that at the minimum, she's a total liar. I mean, it's one thing to issue a lame-a$$ Contador-style denial, it's another to get all high-and-mighty and throw out the sob-story along with the "defamation" nonsense. For me, it certainly makes me question anything she's accomplished in her own career.
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12 Oct 2012 01:23

131313 wrote:" 'It’s complete defamation is what it is,' said Demet from their home in Girona, Spain. 'And it’s really, really hurtful, especially for someone like Michael, who’s been in the sport for as many years as he has and he’s always done the best he can do to be ethical and to do things the right way on every level. That’s what makes it especially hurtful. You can’t really take it back when your name is smeared in the press.'”

http://veloptimum.net/velonouvelles/10/ART/5mai/TorontoStar20B.htm

So, it would appear that at the minimum, she's a total liar. I mean, it's one thing to issue a lame-a$$ Contador-style denial, it's another to get all high-and-mighty and throw out the sob-story along with the "defamation" nonsense. For me, it certainly makes me question anything she's accomplished in her own career.


Yeah, barf. If I recall, Barry himself wasn't so tactful when talking about Landis. I hope he's preparing an apology to Floyd.
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12 Oct 2012 01:35

skidmark wrote:Yeah, barf. If I recall, Barry himself wasn't so tactful when talking about Landis. I hope he's preparing an apology to Floyd.


This is one of the reasons which I have a tiny bit more respect for Zabriskie; at no point did he ever actually deny Flandis' comments or try to make him out to be the bad guy, at least that I recall.
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12 Oct 2012 20:41

[color="Red"]A post Olympic interview on Pez is telling >>>>>>>[/color]

Randall:…..Were you gunning for a medal in the Olympic TT champs right from the start of the 2004 season?

Dede: At the start of the year, I was very focused on qualifying for both the Olympic road race and the time trial, but as the Olympics approached I put more energy into my preparation for the time trial. I realized through my SRM data, that I had a very good chance at a medal in the time trial if I prepared properly.

[color="Red"]Translate to – I was nowhere but wow that stuff worked ! Stick it in your veins and it was like having a motor on the bike ![/color]

Randall: In the last weeks leading up to Athens you didn't do a lot of races. To be honest, I was worried you might not be ready for Athens. What was your confidence level the night before the race?

Dede: I felt perfectly prepared for the Olympic Games when I arrived Athens.

[color="Red"]translate to - I knew the numbers – no-one not on the juice was going to get near me ![/color]

I won the Sparkassen Giro in Bochum, Germany the week before the road race and felt great. In the Olympic road race, I felt strong, but I did not feel all that snappy, perhaps because of the heat or because so much of my training consisted of steady state time trial efforts in the final weeks before the Games. I was a bit nervous for the time trial, but excited. And after taking it easy the day after the road race, I had super legs and felt very confident that I was in my best condition .

[color="Red"]Well who the heck wouldn’t with EPO preparation a la Lance ! Tyler was going to win the men’s could this be an American double ?
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Then the Butter wouldn’t melt in my mouth stuff .[/color]

Randall: And when you realized you had won the Silver Medal?

Dede: I was ecstatic. It was a dream come true.

What would you say are the defining characteristics of a true professional?

Dede: I did not feel on my best condition at the World Championships. I was having problems with my back in the month leading up to it, but I wanted to give my best effort, as I knew that it would be my last race. I think as a professional, it is important to always give your best effort.

[color="Red"]Translate - as a cynical & consummate professional, it always pays when you stack the whole deck as much in your favour as much as you can ! [/color]

Randall: …..You have proven your ability as a cyclist many times over. But what I find remarkable about you is your attitude. I have never once heard you complain. I have never heard you say a negative word about the other riders. You never make excuses and you are always quick to recognize the achievements of others. You have become perhaps the spokesperson for women's pro-cycling. I think this is your greatest victory and it is what makes you a champion for the ages. What do you think?

Dede: Perhaps. My father taught me to always try to be the best I possibly can no matter what task I pursue. But my parents also set a great example as people that helped out others and were constantly there for other people. My father was a big part of my life and career and since he died he has not only continued to been a driving force behind my cycling but also my formation as a person.

[color="Red"]Spokesman for women’s cycling ! Highwayman of women’s cycling, robbing of the deserving, keeping for herself. Were part of dad’s standards to cheat and lie ?

These people need to be exposed .[/color]

http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/?pg=fullstory&id=2667

In as deep as you can get

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llV4q9vQqGE

Bob Roll, Andy Hampsten and Ron Kiefel sqaure off in a trike race at the Boulder Theater at a benefit for the Lance Armstrong Foundation hosted by Davis Phinney and Scott Coady. Michael Barry as Chief Referee and Dede Demet Barry as the Official Starter. Hamsten finished first, Roll second, Kiefel third. Trikes were auctioned off for charity.
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Auctioned for charity ! Look at the auditor's report and recommendations ![/color]
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12 Oct 2012 22:36

"That night Michael and his wife Dede and I had a conversation about EPO and its wide use in the peloton. They proceeded to come up with justifications for the drug use." Deposition of Dave Z, page 8.

I'm new to cycling--I took up road riding 2 1/2 years ago and quickly came to love it. I then got interested in the pro sport. One of the early people I came across was Michael Barry, and I was charmed by his great talent as a writer. He was the kind of pro I could identify with-- a journeyman, a domestique, a hard worker with little glory. And I came to admire Dede through his writing about her. She seemed like another human-scale hero-- no Marianne Vos, rather a decent rider who had her ups and downs but one who earned a couple of fine palameres we could all be proud of--one of them on her father in law's handmade steel bike.

After I read Walsh, the scales fell from my eyes, and I never trusted anything about Armstrong again. I kenw the "A Team" was dirty. Yet somehow I wanted to give Barry the benefit of the doubt, and I never really reflected on Dede at all. I was new to all this and didn't think it through very deeply. My faith in Barry's candor took a hit--I now recognized on the Postal bus as a whitewash--but I still admired his writing skill and seeming good nature.

So when I read this my heart died a little. I realized from the pang I felt that I still wanted to believe in these two journeyman heroes. I wanted to believe in the domestique who found his calling as a writer, and his charming wife who found great form at the right moment only once or twice in her career, and who probably cherished her two great results more than others cherish their page-long palameres.

But reading Zabriskie's flat account it all came crashing down. I was a fool.

I've taken great satisfaction in Lance's downfall--he is a disturbed and evil man, and the kind of personality is sport I have always disliked.

But I was still naive enough to be taken in by my everyman and everywomen couple who I empathized with and wanted to believe.

It was the Barrys who hurt me this week.
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12 Oct 2012 23:23

Oh, Bando...

It sucks, it really does.
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02 Jan 2013 21:39

Sarcastic Wet Trout wrote:Read this

http://d3epuodzu3wuis.cloudfront.net/ReasonedDecision.pdf

and then explain why Dede's case should be extended back as was Lance's.


"The eight-year statute of limitation found in Article 17 of the Code is not absolute. As
the CAS panel in CAS 2005/C/841 CONI found, the “interruption, suspension, expiry or
extension of such [eight-year] time-bar . . . . should be dealt with in the context of the principles
of private law of the country where the interested sports authority is domiciled.”

Looks fine to me. Within the scope of the difficulty of proof and capability of testing regimens, Dede would appear to be required to come before an investigation to determine whether she used PEDs.
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