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Who are the 'Riders' in the documents?

11 Oct 2012 11:43

Am a lurker and this has dragged me out of the wilderness....

This should be a good one, can we pull together a list of the named 'Riders' in all the various affidavits that have been posted?

We know the USPS riders, but surely this is going to blow open a massive can of worms as there's many others ones named in here as being invovled - most of whom i doubt have ever admitted to their involvement, or taking of PEDS etc...

Any thoughts?

Clinic Confirmations:


Rider 1: Paolo Savoldelli
Rider 2: Viatcheslav Ekimov/Beltran/Rubiera
Rider 3: Adriano Baffi
Rider 4: Bobby Julich
Rider 5: Manuel Beltran/Ekimov/Rubiera
Rider 6: Jose Luis Rubiera/Ekimov/Beltran
Rider 7: Roberto Heras
Rider 8: Victor Hugo Pena
Rider 9: Matthew White
Rider 10: Jose Azevedo/Noval/Padrnos
Rider 11: Benjamin Noval/Azevedo/Padrnos
Rider 12: Pavel Padrnos/Azevedo/Noval
Rider 13: Chann Mcrae
Rider 14: Michael Rasmussen
Rider 15: Chris Horner
Rider 16: Yaroslav Popovych
Rider 17:
Rider 18:
Rider 19: Steffen Kjaergaard

Other 1: Emilio Magni
Other 2: Bjarne Riis
Other 3: Duffy ( or #5)
Other 4:
Other 5:
Other 6:
Other 7: Rick Crawford
Other 8: Geert Leinders
Other 9 - Johnny Weltz
Other 10 Jose Arenas
Other 11 Freddy Viane
Other 12 Loise Donald
Other 13 Geoff Brown
Other 14 - Thom Weisel
Other 15 - Mark Gorski
Other 16: Lapage or Demol (?)
Other 17: Andy Rihs
Other 18: Motoman
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11 Oct 2012 11:48

Rider 4 - is I think Julich. He lives with the other US riders in 96. Has a surprising performance at the Vuelta (Julich came 9th and wore KOM for 10 stages). I think he also appears in Jaksche's CSC confession as well.
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11 Oct 2012 11:57

Rider 4 - Julich, yup think thats a given.

just working on Rider 21 who roomed / lived with Floyd in Girona.

how do we make a sticky for the top of the thread that we can add to as we confirm* (in our own way of course).
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11 Oct 2012 12:06

You need to go back and edit the first post.

What I would do is list all the riders and the clues. When is rider 21 living with Landis?
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...girls and ****ed 'em at school. All I know is that there were rumours he was into field hockey players

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11 Oct 2012 12:15

In most cases the blacked out people have ongoing investigations/sanctions and most will be addressed at a later date.

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11 Oct 2012 12:32

Do we get a cut of the royalties from your next article? Or is this free outsourcing?
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11 Oct 2012 12:43

Rider 19 comes from these 3: Michael Barry, Victor Hugo Peña, Steffen Kjaergaard.

Zabriskie wrote: "During the 2002 Vuelta my roommate was Rider-19. He began to feel badly and evetually dropped out of race. After Rider 19 had left competition, Johan Bruyneel came to the hotel room I had sharing with Rider-19 in which we had a small refrigerator and took out a box wrapped in black plastic."

Barry, Peña, Kjaergaar were only ones from USPostal, who did not finish the race. I guess he is not talking of Barry.
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11 Oct 2012 12:50

Von Mises wrote:Rider 19 comes from these 3: Michael Barry, Victor Hugo Peña, Steffen Kjaergaard.

Zabriskie wrote: "During the 2002 Vuelta my roommate was Rider-19. He began to feel badly and evetually dropped out of race. After Rider 19 had left competition, Johan Bruyneel came to the hotel room I had sharing with Rider-19 in which we had a small refrigerator and took out a box wrapped in black plastic."

Barry, Peña, Kjaergaar were only ones from USPostal, who did not finish the race. I guess he is not talking of Barry.


Possibly Kjærgaard by the length of the name and parts of what looks like a j and a g under the blacked out bits.
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11 Oct 2012 12:52

Can't be Michael Barry as he is refered to by his name.

Other 18- motoman :D
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11 Oct 2012 12:55

neineinei wrote:Possibly Kjærgaard by the length of the name and parts of what looks like a j and a g under the blacked out bits.

Has to be Kjaergaard, yes. That was an easy one.
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11 Oct 2012 12:58

Maybe Kjærgaard forgot his pultost in the fridge and sent Johan to get it for him.
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List of riders

11 Oct 2012 13:06

Rider 4 - Bobby Julich
Rider 19 - Steffen Kjærgaard
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11 Oct 2012 13:24

Other 1 - Dr. Emilio Magni - now at Liquigas
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11 Oct 2012 13:42

Rider-1 - Paolo Salvodelli?

Danielsson: "Prior to the 2006 Giro d’Italia I asked Johan Bruyneel whether the team had an organized doping program for the 2006 Giro. Johan said “no” but that he thought Rider-1 had organized a system for obtaining EPO during the race.
89. I also spoke with Dr. Ferrari about obtaining EPO for the 2006 Giro. Rider 1 was also a client of Michele’s and Michele was also aware that had a system for obtaining EPO during the 2006 Giro.
90. I went to Rider-1 and asked him if he could help me with EPO for the race but he said that he had only enough for himself.
I discussed the situation with my teammate Rider-2 who was very upset
that the team did not have an organized program for this race."
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11 Oct 2012 13:48

Who is "Other-3" if it's not Marti? Transporting drugs for the team in 2007. Probably one of the DS? Demol, Yates or Eki, I go with the latter as further down he shouts "I will pay back anyone who ****s with me".

"Other-5" is a doctor working for them in 2007 who isn't Celeya.

I'd say Rider-16 is Popo.

Rider-15 will be hard to ID. Someone who did the TdS in 2005 (after an injury) and probably rode with LL at Astana in 2008. Horner I guess (5th and a stage win in 2005 TdS riding for Saunier Duval).

Also "Other-7" Levi's coach in his earlier years who sounded like a competent doping facilitator.
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11 Oct 2012 13:51

Von Mises wrote:Rider 19 comes from these 3: Michael Barry, Victor Hugo Peña, Steffen Kjaergaard.

Zabriskie wrote: "During the 2002 Vuelta my roommate was Rider-19. He began to feel badly and evetually dropped out of race. After Rider 19 had left competition, Johan Bruyneel came to the hotel room I had sharing with Rider-19 in which we had a small refrigerator and took out a box wrapped in black plastic."

Barry, Peña, Kjaergaar were only ones from USPostal, who did not finish the race. I guess he is not talking of Barry.


kjaergaard it is
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11 Oct 2012 13:52

"Other-8" possibly Geert Leinders. Anyone thinks the same?
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11 Oct 2012 13:52

Von Mises wrote:Rider-1 - Paolo Salvodelli?

Danielsson: "Prior to the 2006 Giro d’Italia I asked Johan Bruyneel whether the team had an organized doping program for the 2006 Giro. Johan said “no” but that he thought Rider-1 had organized a system for obtaining EPO during the race.
89. I also spoke with Dr. Ferrari about obtaining EPO for the 2006 Giro. Rider 1 was also a client of Michele’s and Michele was also aware that had a system for obtaining EPO during the 2006 Giro.
90. I went to Rider-1 and asked him if he could help me with EPO for the race but he said that he had only enough for himself.
I discussed the situation with my teammate Rider-2 who was very upset
that the team did not have an organized program for this race."


that is 99% savoldelli. discover(m)y doping channels leader at the giro then.
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11 Oct 2012 13:55

Horner is an excellent guess for rider 15. He had a broken hip in 2005 and came back shortly before the TdS.
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11 Oct 2012 13:59

Von Mises wrote:Rider-1 - Paolo Salvodelli?

Danielsson: "Prior to the 2006 Giro d’Italia I asked Johan Bruyneel whether the team had an organized doping program for the 2006 Giro. Johan said “no” but that he thought Rider-1 had organized a system for obtaining EPO during the race.
89. I also spoke with Dr. Ferrari about obtaining EPO for the 2006 Giro. Rider 1 was also a client of Michele’s and Michele was also aware that had a system for obtaining EPO during the 2006 Giro.
90. I went to Rider-1 and asked him if he could help me with EPO for the race but he said that he had only enough for himself.
I discussed the situation with my teammate Rider-2 who was very upset
that the team did not have an organized program for this race."


Could be, or Rider-2 could be Salvodelli I guess.
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