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11 Jan 2013 18:20

Eshnar wrote:You sure have a strange meaning of "Can't climb"


he can't climb for a gt rider/winner. to me a gt winner should also be dominant in the mountains, see ullrich, pantani, indurain, contador etc.
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11 Jan 2013 18:57

Ryo Hazuki wrote:he can't climb for a gt rider/winner. to me a gt winner should also be dominant in the mountains, see ullrich, pantani, indurain, contador etc.

And the next Vuelta winner will be dominant in sprints, not in mountains :o
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11 Jan 2013 19:29

Eshnar wrote:And the next Vuelta winner will be dominant in sprints, not in mountains :o


At least it looks like there will be a "real" mountain stage this year. The one that finishes in France can't be all that bad... I hope.
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11 Jan 2013 19:30

Ryo Hazuki wrote:he can't climb for a gt rider/winner. to me a gt winner should also be dominant in the mountains, see ullrich, pantani, indurain, contador etc.


So the only person who can climb in the current peloton is Contador. You exceed yourself sometimes Ryo.
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11 Jan 2013 19:35

Ryo Hazuki wrote:what many whiners here forget is that this gt will 100% be won by a pure climber like last year.


...who was beaten consistently in all climbs by the same guy :rolleyes:
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11 Jan 2013 19:43

So, two out of three likelihoods that they go over Peyresourde. The kind of thing I absolutely do NOT want out of a Vuelta route that goes into France.

Things I don't want to see from the Vuelta in France:
Aspin
Peyresourde
Marie-Blanque
Bonascre
Luz Ardiden
But more than anything else, I never, ever, ever want to see the Tourmalet.
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11 Jan 2013 19:56

Libertine Seguros wrote:So, two out of three likelihoods that they go over Peyresourde. The kind of thing I absolutely do NOT want out of a Vuelta route that goes into France.

Things I don't want to see from the Vuelta in France:
Aspin
Peyresourde
Marie-Blanque
Bonascre
[color="Red"]Luz Ardiden[/color]
But more than anything else, I never, ever, ever want to see the Tourmalet.


What's wrong with that?
It's a good climb and it's not used too often in teh Tour
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11 Jan 2013 20:01

The only way to get there is by a long stretch of valley road, creating a badly designed one-climb stage in classic Unipublic style, or going over the Tourmalet.

I also forgot the Aubisque, which I also never want to see in the Vuelta, and could live without ever seeing again in the Tour either.
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11 Jan 2013 20:10

Cantó + Bonaigua + Portillon + Peyragudes would be my bet right now.
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11 Jan 2013 21:16

Cantó + Bonaigua + Portillon + Superbagneres i think.
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11 Jan 2013 22:50

will10 wrote:So the only person who can climb in the current peloton is Contador. You exceed yourself sometimes Ryo.


mo there are far more, only they haven't won a gt yet. except cobo and perhaps basso
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11 Jan 2013 22:50

icefire wrote:...who was beaten consistently in all climbs by the same guy :rolleyes:


what?


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11 Jan 2013 22:51

Ryo Hazuki wrote:mo there are far more, only they haven't won a gt yet. except cobo and perhaps basso


Im actually quite interested who you think are 'climbers' outside of the colombians and those previously mentioned :p
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11 Jan 2013 23:00

Havetts wrote:Im actually quite interested who you think are 'climbers' outside of the colombians and those previously mentioned :p


The Schlecks, Pozzovivo, Sella (!), Anton for example?
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11 Jan 2013 23:27

Libertine Seguros wrote:But more than anything else, I never, ever, ever want to see the Tourmalet.


We can only hope that they move in the direction of the TDF then and give us a stage with a double Tourmalet serving :D:D:D:D
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12 Jan 2013 01:07

Cap de Long plz.

Is the presentation today or tomorrow?
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12 Jan 2013 07:56

Ferminal wrote:Cap de Long plz.

Is the presentation today or tomorrow?


Today.

http://www.lavuelta.com/12/es/noticias/index.html?e=21#0
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12 Jan 2013 08:23

The stages in the Pyrenees are:
Baga- Gallina/Canolich with Ordino and Comella

Andorra-Peyragudes with Canto-Bonaigua-Portillon-Peyresourde/Peyragudes
or with Canto-Bonaigua-Bales-Peyresourde/Peyragudes

They are not bad Pyrenean stages.
If the stage in Peña Cabarga is good we can have a good Vuelta, with a thing I don´t like , the lack of time trial kilometres
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12 Jan 2013 08:26

@sergi_lopezegea
Hoy Mas Deporte de @elperiodico_cas y @yosugarai en @marca informan que PEYRAGUDES sera final de la Vuelta 2013 saliendo de Andorra


Two newspaper believe this final for the andorran stage.

About the presentation is in 2 hours and a half at Teledeporte (12:00 spanish time)
http://www.rtve.es/deportes/directo/teledeporte/
Don't know if it's geo-restricted;)

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12 Jan 2013 08:28

Why isn't croix de lipodére an idea, it perfectly fits Unipulic's desire for too steep mountains
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