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airstream wrote:'Froome can't can't match Schleck and Contador' and 'Froome is a diesel' are completely spinned out of the air. Apparently people like to live by the 2009 rankings, they don't consider the 2012 Tour a competition whatsoever or something.
Altitude wrote:I do not think Schleck was in top form in last years Tour. But yeah, I'd take 2011 Evans over Froome for sure.
ILovecycling wrote: There werent real climbers;)
airstream wrote:What do 'real climbers' imply? But there was a grandiose team mountain work probably the most impressive one since CSC in the 2008 Tour. Froome is not a real climber? Are you kidding? While on form the guy is able to burn out any uphill. He's got an excellent explosive power. He is better than say Andy in this regard, however he is allegedly a real climber.
Marco Pantani wrote:Contador couldn't drop Andy from 2010 on. Andy matched his accelerations immediately, except from Mende, where Andy was on a bad day.
No way, Froome accelerates harder than Andy.
airstream wrote:What do 'real climbers' imply? But there was a grandiose team mountain work probably the most impressive one since CSC in the 2008 Tour. Froome is not a real climber? Are you kidding? While on form the guy is able to burn out any uphill. He's got an excellent explosive power. He is better than say Andy in this regard, however he is allegedly a real climber.
Marco Pantani wrote:Contador couldn't drop Andy from 2010 on. Andy matched his accelerations immediately, except from Mende, where Andy was on a bad day.
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The Father of Clean Cycling, Christophe Bassons wrote:When I look at cycling today, I get the impression that history is repeating itself: riders who are supposed to be rouleurs are climbing passes at the front of the race, and those who are supposed to be climbers are riding time trials at more than 50 kilometres per hour.
The story is beginning again, just as it did 14 years ago
airstream wrote:What do 'real climbers' imply? But there was a grandiose team mountain work probably the most impressive one since CSC in the 2008 Tour. Froome is not a real climber? Are you kidding? While on form the guy is able to burn out any uphill. He's got an excellent explosive power. He is better than say Andy in this regard, however he is allegedly a real climber.
LaFlorecita wrote:No I can't
Marco Pantani wrote:Ok I' ll clear up.
Ascent to Alpe, Contador was no threat anymore, different to the early attack. Andy cared about Evans only.
Stage 16....was Contador dropped by Evans' accelerations on Galibier? No, he just suffered that day.
In the same way Andy wasn't outpaced that day, in my opinion. Also, he didn't knew tactically, what to do. Waiting for Fränk, working together afterwards? Sure, Andy suffered from the weather.
I'll go out now, please be patient for further answers.
Marco Pantani wrote:Contador couldn't drop Andy from 2010 on. Andy matched his accelerations immediately, except from Mende, where Andy was on a bad day.
No way, Froome accelerates harder than Andy.
Stage 16....was Contador dropped by Evans' accelerations on Galibier? No, he just suffered that day.
ILoveCycling wrote:He is not able to do this against explosive riders like Purito,Alberto or Andy.
He is not more explosive than Andy,you will see on Vetoux(where will Andy attack IMO
Maaaaarten wrote:Sure, he climbs better than JVDB, Nibali and Wiggins on relatively easy MTF's. But hey, outclimbing JVDB, Nibali and Wiggins is a walk in the park for Contador and in-shape Schleck.
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