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Who will win 2013 GIRO?

Nibali
90
32%
Rodriguez
29
10%
Hesjedal
16
6%
Basso
9
3%
Wiggins
106
38%
Scarponi
2
1%
Others
29
10%
 
Total votes : 281

30 Nov 2012 22:30

If Saxo do not get a WT spot and do not get invited to the TDF over Sojasun (who have lost Coppel) it would be a disgrace again.

On topic i really would like for Nibali to win, he was very strong in 2010 at the Giro, he is Italian and it would help him to not be trod on in this forum (even though he is not spectacular) by some.
I'd agree with you but then we'd both be wrong

The Grand Boucle wasn't just Europe's for the taking.

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30 Nov 2012 22:34

Ryo Hazuki wrote:when coldeportes will also be invited to tour(pretty good chance), coldeportes will come with their b team to the giro, which means no duarte for sure.


Duarte might not have that much of a chance at next years TDF to get a stage win- the 2011 TDF would have very much suited him with stages 1,4 and 8. Next year there are not too many hills in the first week where he could get a stage- but that argument of mine completely discounts the fact he can also climb (which i know he can).

Don't forget Chaves and Atapuma.
I'd agree with you but then we'd both be wrong

The Grand Boucle wasn't just Europe's for the taking.

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01 Dec 2012 14:57

Ryo Hazuki wrote:so? there are 3 french pct teams, which leaves one more invitation to coldeportes. also reason why I suspected they said wether saxo gets a wt or not it won't influence their wildcard policy. to me is them basically saying they already have their wildcards fixed and nothing will change that.


coldeportes just joined the mighty mpcc. all set for escarabajos in 2013.
personally i think and hope my favourite, esteban chaves will shine next year. and in a grand tour with the heads of state
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03 Dec 2012 14:59

greenedge wrote:Duarte might not have that much of a chance at next years TDF to get a stage win- the 2011 TDF would have very much suited him with stages 1,4 and 8. Next year there are not too many hills in the first week where he could get a stage- but that argument of mine completely discounts the fact he can also climb (which i know he can).

Don't forget Chaves and Atapuma.


they don't care for the course. the tour will always get duarte and (probably) chaves
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03 Dec 2012 15:10

also no quintana. he will do tour+vuelta as I thought. unzue wants him there
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04 Dec 2012 16:01

Giro d'Italia ‏@giroditalia

"There's the possibility to ride Giro d'Italia in 2013. And it is a great possibility." - @albertocontador http://twitpic.com/bj0u9e

Is it wise for them to hype the possible presence of Contador? If he doesn't come it might be a huge letdown... :(
A race that doesn't give an attacker the chance to finish it off alone is not a race anymore.


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04 Dec 2012 18:34

ofc, they just have to bring attention to the race one way or the other. they already have wiggins and nibali which makes for 2/3's of last years tour podium so even if contador ends up not coming, they will still be fine imo.

looking at older videos of the giro and comparing with more recent ones i have noticed that ASO really seem to be investing a lot on making it bigger and better. just compare contador's podium in 08 and his podium in 2011. they online platform is also very well run with lot's of interaction with the fans.

i honestly think the giro is very slowly but surely closing the gap to the tour in terms of media attention and production.
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04 Dec 2012 19:12

Parrulo wrote:ofc, they just have to bring attention to the race one way or the other. they already have wiggins and nibali which makes for 2/3's of last years tour podium so even if contador ends up not coming, they will still be fine imo.

looking at older videos of the giro and comparing with more recent ones i have noticed that ASO really seem to be investing a lot on making it bigger and better. just compare contador's podium in 08 and his podium in 2011. they online platform is also very well run with lot's of interaction with the fans.

i honestly think the giro is very slowly but surely closing the gap to the tour in terms of media attention and production.


I don't think so, no.

Months decide a lot. July ----->>>> May ( always )

Unless they change the date, Giro will never be as big in terms of media attention and production. Never.

Even if they did, it would be very hard to overtake Tour. You know Tour everywhere, you don't about Giro. In terms of non big cycling fans views.
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04 Dec 2012 19:30

Eshnar wrote:Giro d'Italia ‏@giroditalia

"There's the possibility to ride Giro d'Italia in 2013. And it is a great possibility." - @albertocontador http://twitpic.com/bj0u9e

Is it wise for them to hype the possible presence of Contador? If he doesn't come it might be a huge letdown... :(


Didnt evans cpmllain in 09 or.something that they were using him to promote the race when he had no intention of.riding!?
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04 Dec 2012 19:33

Parrulo wrote:ofc, they just have to bring attention to the race one way or the other. they already have wiggins and nibali which makes for 2/3's of last years tour podium so even if contador ends up not coming, they will still be fine imo.

looking at older videos of the giro and comparing with more recent ones i have noticed that ASO really seem to be investing a lot on making it bigger and better. just compare contador's podium in 08 and his podium in 2011. they online platform is also very well run with lot's of interaction with the fans.

i honestly think the giro is very slowly but surely closing the gap to the tour in terms of media attention and production.


not at all. nothing has changed in past 10 years. before that the giro was even more important thanks to pantani and cipo, that were global stars
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04 Dec 2012 19:45

Parrulo wrote:ofc, they just have to bring attention to the race one way or the other. they already have wiggins and nibali which makes for 2/3's of last years tour podium so even if contador ends up not coming, they will still be fine imo.

looking at older videos of the giro and comparing with more recent ones i have noticed that ASO really seem to be investing a lot on making it bigger and better. just compare contador's podium in 08 and his podium in 2011. they online platform is also very well run with lot's of interaction with the fans.

i honestly think the giro is very slowly but surely closing the gap to the tour in terms of media attention and production.

you meant RCS?
anyway, yes, undoubtly they're trying to close the gap.
A race that doesn't give an attacker the chance to finish it off alone is not a race anymore.


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04 Dec 2012 19:47

Ryo Hazuki wrote:not at all. nothing has changed in past 10 years. before that the giro was even more important thanks to pantani and cipo, that were global stars

I'd say that 10 years ago the situation was way worse than now. But in the 90's it was better, probably.
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04 Dec 2012 20:18

Eshnar wrote:you meant RCS?
anyway, yes, undoubtly they're trying to close the gap.


ya i meant RCS i was just thinking about ASO at the same time and messed up the post.

Eshnar wrote:I'd say that 10 years ago the situation was way worse than now. But in the 90's it was better, probably.


i doesn't matter weather it is possible or not to close the gap to the tour, the fact is RCS is trying to do so.

also how can the giro not reach the tour level of production? does the tour have exclusivity on HD transmission, allegoric cars, hot girls, and beautiful places? tough so. . . . production is all about investment and despite not having the volume of business ASO has sacrificing profits(which ASO doesn't do) or gathering extra support, it is perfectly possible to get to the same levels of the tour.

what you can't buy is media attention but over the last years the giro has been attracting more big names which also contributes for the media exposure of the race.

anyway not everything is white or black despite what ryo and gloin may think and even tho the giro will almost surely never equal or surpass the tour in terms of overall fame(or are we claim anything for sure on the really long run), it doesn't mean that the gap btw the 2 can't be reduced to smaller levels then what it was at the start of this century when the giro was a mostly all italian affair with no caring from the outside world. And if RCS weren't trying to do so then they would be some pretty crappy organizers, much like unipublic.
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06 Dec 2012 13:10

acquarone showing his idiot self once again. he said that the invitation of coldeportes will depend on if uran and henao will ride the giro with sky. or else too many colombians :rolleyes:
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06 Dec 2012 13:15

Ryo Hazuki wrote:acquarone showing his idiot self once again. he said that the invitation of coldeportes will depend on if uran and henao will ride the giro with sky. or else too many colombians :rolleyes:

:D
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We'll have a lot to discuss during next January when it comes about RCS wild cars. ;)
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06 Dec 2012 16:08

Ryo Hazuki wrote:acquarone showing his idiot self once again. he said that the invitation of coldeportes will depend on if uran and henao will ride the giro with sky. or else too many colombians :rolleyes:


OMG!This guy is ridiculous:eek:
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10 Dec 2012 16:58

Today's license threw completely new light on the next Giro.
I think RCS would be delighted to see Contador in their race, and Wiggins just might rethink his decision.
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10 Dec 2012 17:04

serfla wrote:Today's license threw completely new light on the next Giro.
I think RCS would be delighted to see Contador in their race, and Wiggins just might rethink his decision.

Contador will take on the Tour ;)
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10 Dec 2012 17:16

You think he'll wait till April to define his schedule?

Edit:
Ive jumped to conclusion. My mistake.
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10 Dec 2012 17:36

They got in, so no need
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