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Who will win 2013 GIRO?

Nibali
90
32%
Rodriguez
29
10%
Hesjedal
16
6%
Basso
9
3%
Wiggins
106
38%
Scarponi
2
1%
Others
29
10%
 
Total votes : 281

28 Dec 2012 16:04

theyoungest wrote:Probably the first one they'll blow up is Gesink himself, his diesel takes a while to turn on.



The alternative is the passenger route for Gesink. With a good TT performance, that approach could return a podium placement. Dull model perhaps, but solid result.
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28 Dec 2012 16:37

Leendert82 wrote:you mean the Duarte that was 10th at Trentino?, yes so amazing and Rank number 200 at CQranking?
Your making a joke out of yourself every single post you make


you shouldn't judge races by looking up results afterwards, when you clealry haven't got a clue what I'm talking about.

he also won the queenstage in trentino 2011, trhat's what I was talking about :rolleyes:
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28 Dec 2012 16:38

Leendert82 wrote:Haneo did not work for Uran, they were both riding the max that they could every stage and did not work for each other. In fact they stimulated each other to a higher platform.

I guess you were braindead during the stelvio stage then :rolleyes:
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28 Dec 2012 16:44

Ryo Hazuki wrote:I guess you were braindead during the stelvio stage then :rolleyes:

Well d0h, Uran was already minutes ahead on GC by then, and had the white jersey.
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28 Dec 2012 16:51

Regarding Gesnik, his chances of winning/podium finish will heavily depend on whether he has fully recovered from his injury.
While been surprised by his new found TT ability, his climbing was much worse last year.

Heck even in the TT, he lost time on the climbs while doing well on the flat.

Samu is another interesting contender and at 35 after recovering from a injury, I would think a win is very difficult but a podium spot isn't beyond him.

Good to see Nibali getting strong support. He's still my bet for victory.
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28 Dec 2012 16:55

theyoungest wrote:Well d0h, Uran was already minutes ahead on GC by then, and had the white jersey.


so? the point was that henao worked for uran, unlike what that guy said
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29 Dec 2012 02:57

Ryo Hazuki wrote:you shouldn't judge races by looking up results afterwards, when you clealry haven't got a clue what I'm talking about.

he also won the queenstage in trentino 2011, trhat's what I was talking about :rolleyes:


Wow he won 1 stage.. that clearly proofs it, your right
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29 Dec 2012 03:10

the asian wrote:Regarding Gesnik, his chances of winning/podium finish will heavily depend on whether he has fully recovered from his injury.
While been surprised by his new found TT ability, his climbing was much worse last year.

Heck even in the TT, he lost time on the climbs while doing well on the flat.

Samu is another interesting contender and at 35 after recovering from a injury, I would think a win is very difficult but a podium spot isn't beyond him.

Good to see Nibali getting strong support. He's still my bet for victory.

Agreed, he needs to improve in the climbs, but im sure he will after he is fully recovered from his injuries. For now, he is not a sure bet as it depends how much he improves. But I'm willing to take that bet.
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29 Dec 2012 03:12

Ryo Hazuki wrote:so? the point was that henao worked for uran, unlike what that guy said


I agree that I didn't see the Stelvio stage, but I saw the other stages, and he didn't work in those. and I'm not "that guy" my name at this forum is Leendert82. ;)
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29 Dec 2012 08:41

Leendert82 wrote:I agree that I didn't see the Stelvio stage, but I saw the other stages, and he didn't work in those.


LOL @ this. He worked for Cav and Uran in multiple stages throughout the Giro. Looks like everyone noticed that but you.
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29 Dec 2012 08:54

the asian wrote:Regarding Gesnik, his chances of winning/podium finish will heavily depend on whether he has fully recovered from his injury.
While been surprised by his new found TT ability, his climbing was much worse last year.

Heck even in the TT, he lost time on the climbs while doing well on the flat.

That was already the case before his leg break. In the Pais Vasco TT last year, he did better than anyone on the descent/flat... and he had about the 40th time or so on the climb. Since two years he really has to drag himself up the climbs, it's sad but it's true.

What always surprised me is that Breukink kept on saying "Gesink needs a climb in a TT"... no he doesn't, quite the contrary actually. That Breukink really had his finger on the pulse.

Leendert82 wrote:I agree that I didn't see the Stelvio stage, but I saw the other stages, and he didn't work in those. and I'm not "that guy" my name at this forum is Leendert82. ;)

He did work a bit, like Tony Martin did for Cav in HTC: ride one or two k on the front in the final. But that's as good a way as any to avoid crashes, so it works both ways.
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29 Dec 2012 11:56

Cunego not riding the 2013 Giro because of Scarponi :rolleyes:
http://www.****iociclismo.it/?action=read&idnotizia=24941
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29 Dec 2012 12:02

cineteq wrote:Cunego not riding the 2013 Giro because of Scarponi :rolleyes:
http://www.****iociclismo.it/?action=read&idnotizia=24941


yea, because as everyone knows it is Scarponis fault that Cunego hasnt won the giro the last couple of years :p
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29 Dec 2012 12:13

cineteq wrote:Cunego not riding the 2013 Giro because of Scarponi :rolleyes:
http://www.****iociclismo.it/?action=read&idnotizia=24941

WT points wise it may be better to send Cunego to an anonymous tp10 in the Tour, 2011 style and have Scarponi doing something in the Giro.
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29 Dec 2012 12:25

Surely Scarponi should be looking at a lifetime suspension for a 2nd offence now?
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29 Dec 2012 12:26

cineteq wrote:Cunego not riding the 2013 Giro because of Scarponi :rolleyes:
http://www.****iociclismo.it/?action=read&idnotizia=24941


Great news. Cunego would just be an unwelcome distraction for Scarponi. Much like Ulissi will be.
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29 Dec 2012 12:29

Is cunego confirmed to do the tour then?
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29 Dec 2012 13:28

will10 wrote:Surely Scarponi should be looking at a lifetime suspension for a 2nd offence now?


i don't want to go in clinic matters because this is not the place. However Pozzato and Visconti got 3 months for talking with Ferrari, so since it will be an offence with a less than 6 months suspension it probably won't count as a 2nd doping offence.

So probably Scarponi will start the Giro, but being one year older i doubt he will podium anyway.
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29 Dec 2012 14:06

theyoungest wrote:That was already the case before his leg break. In the Pais Vasco TT last year, he did better than anyone on the descent/flat... and he had about the 40th time or so on the climb. Since two years he really has to drag himself up the climbs, it's sad but it's true.

What always surprised me is that Breukink kept on saying "Gesink needs a climb in a TT"... no he doesn't, quite the contrary actually. That Breukink really had his finger on the pulse.


In the Tour of Suisse this year he rode a good TT and there was a climb in it. I agree that he is not impressive as he used to be in the climbs, but as I said before that has its reasons. The switch between a pure climber and a ****ty time trialer (much worse than F. Sleck) to a good climber and a good time trialer is hard. Im sure he will find the right balance in 2013. And if he does he has a shot for the titel
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29 Dec 2012 15:00

Leendert82 wrote:In the Tour of Suisse this year he rode a good TT and there was a climb in it. I agree that he is not impressive as he used to be in the climbs, but as I said before that has its reasons. The switch between a pure climber and a ****ty time trialer (much worse than F. Sleck) to a good climber and a good time trialer is hard. Im sure he will find the right balance in 2013. And if he does he has a shot for the titel


He didn't climb very well in that TdS TT as well, and if you think his climbing was bad in 2011 when his TT improved, you need to rewatch the final of the Dauphine queen stage that year. Gesink was arguably the best climber of the Tour favourites there despite still not being in super shape, and he was still just testing his form with several attacks. Tour winners Evans and Wiggins lost 38 and 23 seconds on him, if he hadn't crashed he could have done a good Tour. But that's just part of being a complete rider.

I don't see him do well in the Giro either, although the course suits him very well with the flat TT. He'll lose much time in the big mountain stages and hills.
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