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26 Oct 2012 16:40

Lot's of classic like stages in the beginning of the Giro, I like.
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26 Oct 2012 16:47

Great preview and good course. Hopefully Nibali will race it to avenge his Tour loss to the Sky and Wiggins. So many close calls for him, he really deserves a big win soon.
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26 Oct 2012 17:05

Parrulo wrote:awesome work eshnar!!!!

when compared to the tour route this giro route actually looks very good :o


Indeed. The weather is my only concern, specially regarding the Galibier stage.

Hopefully more classics riders turn up at the Giro rather than the Tour as the race offers plenty of chances to them.
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26 Oct 2012 17:18

Havent read it all yet, but im pretty sure its a far better preview than any of the crap the the cycling press will come up with.

Chapeau Eddy, and nice to see im not the only one with too much time on my hands and not the only one who spends al lot of that time on the giro.
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The story is beginning again, just as it did 14 years ago


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26 Oct 2012 17:23

Eshnar wrote:STAGE13: Busseto - Cherasco 242 kms
As you can see, the only GPM is Diano D'Alba (5.5 kms at 4.4%), which is quite senseless since there's a way more serious climb (4.4
kms at 7.3%) just after it, topping at 32 to go.

Great preview of the course. Only one thing: map and profile indicate another route to the top of Diano D'Alba, not the main street SP32. It should be the smaller Via Romina, which semms to have good fresh surface. The climb is really steep: 2.3 km 10.2 %.
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26 Oct 2012 17:38

The route is a lot better than I originally realized. Thanks for all your hard work Eshnar. I'm disappointed and surprised there are not more stages where Nibali will be able to attack on a descent. Still I think these parcours will produce a very entertaining Giro. The tour organizers on the other hand should be ashamed.
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26 Oct 2012 17:50

Great job, the route looks awesome! Purito will destroy the competitors like he did in La Vuelta. :)
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26 Oct 2012 18:02

Cannavaro wrote:Great preview of the course. Only one thing: map and profile indicate another route to the top of Diano D'Alba, not the main street SP32. It should be the smaller Via Romina, which semms to have good fresh surface. The climb is really steep: 2.3 km 10.2 %.

Thanks! You're right, I'm editing...

EDIT: Done. It actually seems more like 2.7 kms at 9% or so.
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26 Oct 2012 18:06

Great review, Eshnar! Very much appreciated.

I actually kinda like the route although I'm definitely not a fun of all the short stages - what's up with that?
But usually the most entertaining stages are those suited for classics specialists, and there are a lot of those in this Giro. I like.
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26 Oct 2012 18:13

The Hitch wrote:Havent read it all yet, but im pretty sure its a far better preview than any of the crap the the cycling press will come up with.

Chapeau Eddy, and nice to see im not the only one with too much time on my hands and not the only one who spends al lot of that time on the giro.

not sure if it's something to be proud of :D
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26 Oct 2012 18:23

Very good thread.
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26 Oct 2012 18:28

Loved the thread, thanks so much
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26 Oct 2012 18:29

bicifan wrote:Great job, the route looks awesome! Purito will destroy the competitors like he did in La Vuelta. :)


He'll lose 6 minutes in that TT ;)
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26 Oct 2012 18:36

Bavarianrider wrote:He'll lose 6 minutes in that TT ;)


Presumably to Wiggins, of course. That is fine if it is he can make up the ground elsewhere. Didn't he have 8-9 minutes on Froome by the end of the Vuelta?

Not saying that the scenarios will be similar (or even nearly similar), but it may be possible for Purito to drop so much time to Wiggins in the TT and make it up in the mountains.
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26 Oct 2012 18:43

dont see why wiggins should this instead of the tour, the first half of the flat itt is so technical(+the climb at the end) that i dont see him taking thaaat much from the punchier climbers.
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26 Oct 2012 18:52

Awesome. This is a lot to chew on... taking a closer look at the Giro route, I really like a lot of the stage design, especially the first week and the time trials. Unfortunately, I hate some other elements of the stage design, such as the mostly short and 3-or-less-climb mountain stages, and the amount of flat before anything in several stages. All they had to do was change one of the shorter mountain stages to be 60km longer with 2 more climbs, and throw something other than pan-flat into the first 100km of a few more stages, and they would have had a great route. As it is, pretty good, but I guess it's hard to go wrong in Italy.

Oh and the last stage wtf.
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26 Oct 2012 19:15

Sophistic wrote:dont see why wiggins should this instead of the tour, the first half of the flat itt is so technical(+the climb at the end) that i dont see him taking thaaat much from the punchier climbers.


Because he could never beat guys like Contador, Froome, and Schleck (if he gets back to form) on the parcours of the tour. Too much competition, too much climbing, and not enough time trialing to win the tour again. So he decided he might as well go to the Giro where the parcours suit him more and where he will have a better chance of winning or getting on the podium. Probably a good decision by him to go for the Giro instead, but I think the climbers will get the better of him. ;)
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26 Oct 2012 19:21

airstream wrote:The main thing is not to forget this thread exists in May! :)


Have it sticked from now on. It sure will be more interesting than 90% of the threads created come winter time :D

Seriously, amazing job Eshnar. You're the boss :cool:
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26 Oct 2012 19:26

UpTheRoad wrote:Presumably to Wiggins, of course. That is fine if it is he can make up the ground elsewhere. Didn't he have 8-9 minutes on Froome by the end of the Vuelta?

Not saying that the scenarios will be similar (or even nearly similar), but it may be possible for Purito to drop so much time to Wiggins in the TT and make it up in the mountains.


Wiggins won't be as spent as Froome was at the Vuelta. Plus if Sky are in 2012 Tour form they won't let Purito have a hope in hell of doing that.
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26 Oct 2012 20:27

Sophistic wrote:dont see why wiggins should this instead of the tour, the first half of the flat itt is so technical(+the climb at the end) that i dont see him taking thaaat much from the punchier climbers.


IT's actually not that technical.
Almost all of those corners in the first part can be done at full throttle. It's not like this are stop and go corners.
This is a perfect TT for a guy like Wiggins.
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