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07 Dec 2018 20:20

if i was to bet, i'd say fourcade may have had a recovery issue from yesterday...the 20k was intense. jtb's speed was impressive today !

fis posted start lists few hours back, i dont find klaebo. will be interesting how far will johaug run away. among men, i bet on roethe to win and expect a surprise from spitsov...
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08 Dec 2018 08:07

Kläbo was reported skipping already on monday i think. Cited staleness/fatigue. Similarly Heikkinen who has been subpar though good at preseason performance tests is sidelined too, apparently upper spinal issues.

I think johaug will be beatable this year on courses that have a 50/50 or larger emphasis on absolute power as opposed to power to weight. Lillehammer was a prime example of a course favouring her. When brute force and being fast on the flats get more emphasis, kalla and pärmä for example might as well win.
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08 Dec 2018 09:16

Therese, damn. This is a **** bloodbath.
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08 Dec 2018 09:30

meat puppet wrote:I think johaug will be beatable this year on courses that have a 50/50 or larger emphasis on absolute power as opposed to power to weight. Lillehammer was a prime example of a course favouring her. When brute force and being fast on the flats get more emphasis, kalla and pärmä for example might as well win.

I fear that may be wishful thinking. I think she wins at worst 75% of distance races this year.
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08 Dec 2018 09:41

It just kills the excitement when someone is this dominant
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08 Dec 2018 10:13

Singer01 wrote:
meat puppet wrote:I think johaug will be beatable this year on courses that have a 50/50 or larger emphasis on absolute power as opposed to power to weight. Lillehammer was a prime example of a course favouring her. When brute force and being fast on the flats get more emphasis, kalla and pärmä for example might as well win.

I fear that may be wishful thinking. I think she wins at worst 75% of distance races this year.

That is entirely possible. However, xc has evolved into a more upper body, more absolute force generation, short force generation and high peak force, and more speed determined sport in recent years in men save for alpe cermis. Johaug like skiers are not favoured by this.

This trend has to catch up with johaug too at least in some events eventually. Or as you say, her aerobic capacity will be enough to compensate, and more.

But yeah, today was not that day.
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08 Dec 2018 13:10

Well, that was nice, a real, genuine individual start endurance race won by a proper distance specialist in style. Some good performances all up and down the startlist, very stable conditions which was nice as we got what felt like a very fair race. Real great showing from Irineu Esteve Altimiras in the early starters, he was pretty good at the U23 World Championships last season and had a good but not great final pursuit time in Lillehammer. Shall watch his progress with interest.
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08 Dec 2018 13:14

roethe, as i predicted, it was...

bolshu paced smart and if i recall the last splits right, he matched roethe in the last kilometers and was some seconds faster than sundby...back in the overall leader. dont understand why cologna isn't better.

we pretty much can say at this point that tomorrow norway and russia will be 1-2. it is also curious to look to davos next week b/c ustiougov will enter and iversen with klaebo should be there too.
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08 Dec 2018 13:23

Great win by Roethe!!!
Fantastic Norwegians-Russian battle!
Too bad that this was the one and only 30km race of the year. What a disgrace :o :o
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08 Dec 2018 13:33

Clément Parisse first non-Norwegian/Russian, he is now the number 1 Frenchman pending the return of Manificat. Great performance. Gaillard still capable of top 15.

Agree on the lack of longer distance races, which are the tradition of X-country skiing.
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Yesterday 08:29

Hope Sweden can at least keep it close today. They look like they have 75% of a very competitive team.
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Yesterday 09:12

close it should be, I think, it's not like Heidi Weng is in particularly good shape - or are you refering to Ingemarsdotter as the not so competitive part of the team?
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search wrote:close it should be, I think, it's not like Heidi Weng is in particularly good shape - or are you refering to Ingemarsdotter as the not so competitive part of the team?

Turns out, it was Settlin.
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Libertine Seguros wrote:
search wrote:close it should be, I think, it's not like Heidi Weng is in particularly good shape - or are you refering to Ingemarsdotter as the not so competitive part of the team?

Turns out, it was Settlin.


and Kalla ;)
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Yesterday 10:35

Everyone in Sweden's relay team besides Ingemarsdotter were really disappointing today. Don't know what was that all about.
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Yesterday 10:47

i can only speculate it was the swedish waxing issue...great run from a young finnish girl (pippo) splitting 2 russian teams. a mild surprise NOT seeing norway 2 closer, rather, the 2 young russian teams almost taking 2 podiums.
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Yesterday 11:18

Man, how beautiful it would have been if boe had thrown this away :D
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Yesterday 13:10

python wrote:i can only speculate it was the swedish waxing issue...great run from a young finnish girl (pippo) splitting 2 russian teams. a mild surprise NOT seeing norway 2 closer, rather, the 2 young russian teams almost taking 2 podiums.

To be fair, she might have had to settle for fourth if Nechaevskaya hadn't fallen.
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Libertine Seguros wrote:
python wrote:i can only speculate it was the swedish waxing issue...great run from a young finnish girl (pippo) splitting 2 russian teams. a mild surprise NOT seeing norway 2 closer, rather, the 2 young russian teams almost taking 2 podiums.

To be fair, she might have had to settle for fourth if Nechaevskaya hadn't fallen.

libertine, my impression was the finn was in 3d at the start of the last climb when the russian fell..to men - what an exciting race ! bolshu literally, played with sundby and holund leaving both in snow dust. the guy i slayed to surprise yeterday - spitsov - did deliver but was brilliant today not giving an inch to roethe.

and the 100% fresh krogh had to out-sprint melni who podiumed in a very hard fought 30km yesterday. btw, his skating is one of the most gracious i have seen in men. and efficient.
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Yesterday 15:31

Great relay on a fantastic track in a stunning scenery. That light was just awesome :lol: :lol:

If Ustiugov can get back on form, the Russians could have a serois shot in Seefeld.
Though on those wack *** tracks creating gaps will be tough, so it will be a pretty open race most likely.
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