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21 Nov 2012 16:22

jens_attacks wrote:ferrari will be the best sprinter of the year


I'd love to see that
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21 Nov 2012 17:12

Interesting to see that year after year 85% only pick "big guns" for all podium spots. Yet we see every year that we get surprise winners more often not - see Iglinskyi, Gerrans, Hesjedal, Zaugg...Anyway, some random predictions:

MSR: 1. Sagan 2. Kristoff 3. Degenkolb
RVV: 1. Cancellara 2. Sagan 3. EBH
P-R: 1. Boonen 2. Cancellara 3. Hushovd
AGR: 1. EBH 2. Gilbert 3. Sagan
F-W: 1. Rodriguez 2. Henao 3. Contador
L-B-L: 1. Hesjedal 2. Nordhaug 3. Nibali

Giro: 1. Nibali 2. Hesjedal 3. Wiggins
TDF: 1. Contador 2. Froome 3. Pinot
Vuelta. 1. Contador 2. Henao 3. Costa

Worlds RR: 1. Cancellara 2. EBH 3. Gilbert
Worlds ITT: 1. Tony Martin 2. Cancellara 3. Phinney

Lombardy: 1. Gilbert 2. Henao 3. Löfkvist
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21 Nov 2012 17:24

maltiv wrote:Vuelta. 1. Contador 2. Henao 3. Costa


jesus maltiv i know you are going for a couple of surprises but costa getting a podium at a GT is a bit too far fetched.

winning LBL, the worlds or the GdL would still be a surprise result but within the realms of reality :p
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21 Nov 2012 17:42

maltiv wrote:Interesting to see that year after year 85% only pick "big guns" for all podium spots. Yet we see every year that we get surprise winners more often not - see Iglinskyi, Gerrans, Hesjedal, Zaugg...Anyway, some random predictions:

MSR: 1. Sagan 2. Kristoff 3. Degenkolb
RVV: 1. Cancellara 2. Sagan 3. EBH
P-R: 1. Boonen 2. Cancellara 3. Hushovd
AGR: 1. EBH 2. Gilbert 3. Sagan
F-W: 1. Rodriguez 2. Henao 3. Contador
L-B-L: 1. Hesjedal 2. Nordhaug 3. Nibali

Giro: 1. Nibali 2. Hesjedal 3. Wiggins
TDF: 1. Contador 2. Froome 3. Pinot
Vuelta. 1. Contador 2. Henao 3. Costa

Worlds RR: 1. Cancellara 2. EBH 3. Gilbert
Worlds ITT: 1. Tony Martin 2. Cancellara 3. Phinney

Lombardy: 1. Gilbert 2. Henao 3. Löfkvist


None of the big guns were in form this year for the Ardennes classics, so obviously you had surprise winners. Also with Lombardia a week after the Worlds the quality of the racing field has improved compared to 2011.

Most of the surprise winners are actually caused by Cancellara's racing style...
Ryo Hazuki wrote:horrible. boonen just the same guy as years before and this course is too hard for him. that's why he rode like a coward there were at least 3 guys stronger than boonen today and none of them won: sagan, ballan, pozzato


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21 Nov 2012 18:09

maltiv wrote:Interesting to see that year after year 85% only pick "big guns" for all podium spots. Yet we see every year that we get surprise winners more often not - see Iglinskyi, Gerrans, Hesjedal, Zaugg...


While that is true, it doesn't mean that a prediction of only favorites isn't likely to be the most precise.
Ryo Hazuki wrote:contador is such a coward :o
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21 Nov 2012 18:42

Parrulo wrote:jesus maltiv i know you are going for a couple of surprises but costa getting a podium at a GT is a bit too far fetched.

winning LBL, the worlds or the GdL would still be a surprise result but within the realms of reality :p

He's been improving every year, so you never know. Would hardly be more surprising than De Gendt now would it? Or Peter Velits, for that matter! I certainly agree that it is far fetched though ;)

I find the prediction in the opening post far more unlikely: that Jungels will be 3rd in M-SR as a 20 y.o neo-pro. He isn't even suited to the race at all, and probably has never ridden anything longer than 200 km :p
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21 Nov 2012 18:47

Hugo Koblet wrote:While that is true, it doesn't mean that a prediction of only favorites isn't likely to be the most precise.

Not much fun in predicting though if everyone puts the top 3 guys from the betting odds in their list!

Last year I believe there was someone predicting Gasparotto to win AGR (or perhaps it was Maxim- LBL he had) and Vino to win Olympic road. Now that's some far fetched predictions, but in hindsight they are far more impressive than the guys who correctly predicted that Gilbert would win worlds for example.
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21 Nov 2012 19:00

maltiv wrote:Not much fun in predicting though if everyone puts the top 3 guys from the betting odds in their list!

Last year I believe there was someone predicting Gasparotto to win AGR (or perhaps it was Maxim- LBL he had) and Vino to win Olympic road. Now that's some far fetched predictions, but in hindsight they are far more impressive than the guys who correctly predicted that Gilbert would win worlds for example.


Well most of your predictions arent exactly the outsiders, only EBH for AGR and Hesjedal for LBL could be considered as surprises
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21 Nov 2012 19:43

Omloop: 1. Haussler, 2. Boonen, 3. Demare (mass sprint)

MSR: 1. Scarponi, 2. Gilbert, 3. Degenkolb (Scarponi holds off Gilbert who almost caught him, John wins the bunch sprint)

Ronde: 1. Breschel, 2. Pozzato, 3. Thomas (Breschel wins the four-man group sprint, Nuyens 4th)

Roubaix: 1. Devolder, 2. Boom, 3. Cancellara (Devolder beats Boom in the sprint on the Velodrome, Cancellara gets third place after protecting his teammate up the road)

AGR: 1. Gerrans, 2. J. Vanendert, 3. Gilbert (with Gerrans, you never know...)

Fleche: 1. Gilbert, 2. Rodriguez, 3. Anton (Gilbert will win by aproximately 10 seconds)

LBL: 1. De Gendt, 2. Voeckler, 3. D. Martin (De Gendt wins after a 225km solo, Voeckler beats Martin and Mollema in the sprint)

Giro: 1. Porte, 2.Nibali +8:32, 3. Hesjedal +11:58 (Porte does what everyone expected from him and puts up a prefect show for Sky with also 2 TT victories and 5 stage victories)

Nationals: Moser(solo), Valverde(beats Contador in sprint), Pinot(solo), Cavendish(solo), Nuyens(unnoticed until the last kilometers), Hoogerland(solo from the start), Kluge(bunch sprint), Fuglsang(beats CAS), Leipheimer(solo), Albasini(bunch sprint), Isaichev(sprint against Kolobnev, Menchov and Firsanov)

Tour: 1. Froome, 2. Contador +5.04, 3. Pinot +6:47 (Froome smash...)

Vuelta: 1. F. Schleck, 2. Wiggins +1:38, 3. S. Sanchez +4:11 (F. Schleck fights back from his ban and defeats Wiggins with a daring attack while the Brit has a bad day)

Worlds RR: 1. Valverde, 2. Nibali, 3. D. Martin (Valverde sprints to his first rainbow jersey, with also Mollema and Henao in this group)

'' '' TT: 1. Phinney, 2. Durbridge, 3. Contador (Phinney rides faster than anyone else, there's not much more to it)

Tours: 1. Demare, 2. Greipel, 3. Cavendish (bunch sprint)

Lombardia: 1. Van Avermaet, 2. Gilbert, 3. Evans (Van Avermaet just defeats Gilbert, who can save his season here, with half a wheel and signs for OPQS. Evans retires despite this result)
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21 Nov 2012 19:57

MSR: Degenkolb, Pozzato, Sagan
RVV: Sagan, Boonen, Cancellara
PR: Cancellara, Boonen, Boom/ Vanmarcke
AGR: Gilbert, Sagan, Vanendert
FW: Gilbert, Valverde, Samu
LBL: Nibali, Gilbert, Zaugg
GDL: Samu, Vanendert, Basso

ToC: TJVG, Chris Horner, Gesink
TDU: A OGE person or Gilbert (if he rides)
P-T: Moser, GVA,Degnkolb
CSS: EBH, Gerrans, Valverde

Giro: Nibali, Wiggins...
TDF: Contador, Froome, Evans
Vuelta: JROD, Valverde, Quintana/ Cobo

WC ITT: Martin
WC RR: Evans, Cancellara, Henao
WC TTT: I am tempted to say Euskatel (Samu, Nieve, Anton, Landa/ 2 others) would own on the climbs but Movistar or RSNT in my view will take it.

Best young rider will be Quintana- best new rider either McCarthy or surprise Boswell.
The sprinting clashes will be great.
I'd agree with you but then we'd both be wrong

The Grand Boucle wasn't just Europe's for the taking.

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21 Nov 2012 20:02

Some of these predictions are really bad. De Gendt can't ride in peloton, so he will waste too much energy during a hard classic. And he'll also suffer during the first nervous week of the Tour. De Gendt isn't a one day racer and most likely never will be one. Nor is a long breakaway going to succeed in LBL. I doubt he will even start to be honest.

Wasn't there a bold prediction thread as well? Most of these should be posted there lol.
Ryo Hazuki wrote:horrible. boonen just the same guy as years before and this course is too hard for him. that's why he rode like a coward there were at least 3 guys stronger than boonen today and none of them won: sagan, ballan, pozzato


The Hitch wrote:Goss will woop boonens candy a[color="Black"]ss[/color] in a sprint he cares about, any day of the week
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21 Nov 2012 20:07

maltiv wrote:Not much fun in predicting though if everyone puts the top 3 guys from the betting odds in their list!

Last year I believe there was someone predicting Gasparotto to win AGR (or perhaps it was Maxim- LBL he had) and Vino to win Olympic road. Now that's some far fetched predictions, but in hindsight they are far more impressive than the guys who correctly predicted that Gilbert would win worlds for example.


maltiv wrote:I find the prediction in the opening post far more unlikely: that Jungels will be 3rd in M-SR as a 20 y.o neo-pro. He isn't even suited to the race at all, and probably has never ridden anything longer than 200 km :p


Lutsenko is also there to finish 3rd in LBL.
Yeah but that can also be done in the race threads- when we can actually see the riders and have a whole barrage of riders to select. Here we are limited to 3.
I'd agree with you but then we'd both be wrong

The Grand Boucle wasn't just Europe's for the taking.

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21 Nov 2012 20:12

It seems that Purito will make the Tour. So i change my bet. Giro: 1° Wiggins 2° Nibali 3° Quintana 4° Rujano 5° Pelizzoti 6° Hesjedal 7° Henao 8° Pozzovivo 9° Majka 10° Betancur.
TDF: 1° Contador 2° Froome 3° Pinot 4° Andy Schleck 5° J Rod 6° Van Garderen 7° Valverde 8° Rolland 9° Van Den Broeck 10° Talansky.
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21 Nov 2012 20:18

El Pistolero wrote:Some of these predictions are really bad. De Gendt can't ride in peloton, so he will waste too much energy during a hard classic. And he'll also suffer during the first nervous week of the Tour. De Gendt isn't a one day racer and most likely never will be one. Nor is a long breakaway going to succeed in LBL. I doubt he will even start to be honest.

Wasn't there a bold prediction thread as well? Most of these should be posted there lol.


If there's one rider who could pull off a 200+ km solo win in LBL it's De Gendt. When he's on top form he's never failed to drop his breakaway companions, so it's far from bold. What's bold is that a breakaway will make it in LBL.
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21 Nov 2012 20:28

Pentacycle wrote:If there's one rider who could pull off a 200+ km solo win in LBL it's De Gendt. When he's on top form he's never failed to drop his breakaway companions, so it's far from bold. What's bold is that a breakaway will make it in LBL.


"When he's on top form" That's a big "if". Besides which idiot will let De Gendt ride in a classic, that **** won't work.

Besides you negated yourself. You try to defend into why this (de gendt's solo win in LBL) belongs in this thread but then you say that a solo which survives in LBL is bold so why is it in this thread then?

Then again you say Froome will win the TDF with 5 minutes so i'm not surprised.

Until now all the people who I consider that have knowledge on cycling stated that Contador will win the tour.

I'm not praising them though, it's simple common sense.
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21 Nov 2012 20:34

Miburo wrote:Until now all the people who I consider that have knowledge on cycling stated that Contador will win the tour.
I'm not praising them though, it's simple common sense.


Are you ready to apologize on them if he won't win (on the road) ?
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21 Nov 2012 20:53

I predict no wt license for Saxo and therefore no tour invite
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21 Nov 2012 21:01

therealtimshady wrote:I predict no wt license for Saxo and therefore no tour invite


idiot, even ASO won't do that.

Damn, retarded people on this forum. I wonder if they really believe this or if they're just trolling.
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21 Nov 2012 21:02

San Remo: Sagan
Flanders: Pozzato
Roubaix: Boonen
Amstel: Moser
Fleche Wallone: Purito
Liege: Valverde
Giro: 1. Basso 2. Nibali 3. Wiggins
Tour: 1. Contador 2. Valverde 3. Froome
San Sebastian: Gorka Izaguirre
Vuelta: 1. Quintana 2. Scarponi 3. Valverde
Worlds: Cunego
Lombardy: Samu
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21 Nov 2012 21:08

maltiv wrote:Not much fun in predicting though if everyone puts the top 3 guys from the betting odds in their list!

Last year I believe there was someone predicting Gasparotto to win AGR (or perhaps it was Maxim- LBL he had) and Vino to win Olympic road. Now that's some far fetched predictions, but in hindsight they are far more impressive than the guys who correctly predicted that Gilbert would win worlds for example.


hello there :cool:
"I know how to ride my bike" - Nibali

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9LBsWCNE9I

Vuelta 06 - the greatest gt in history!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24TQdI7csHs
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